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MARTA eyeing North Line expansion up GA 400 corridor

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Posted: 7/22/2014 2:12 PM

MARTA eyeing North Line expansion up GA 400 corridor 


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Posted: 7/22/2014 2:30 PM

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Ha ha ha.  Let the NIMBY battles begin.


At least 70 residents attended, and many appeared to favor the expansion provided that it happened on the west side of Ga. 400 through Sandy Springs. The east side of the so-called "Hospitality Highway" has more single-family homes and adjacent schools; the west side includes more apartment complexes and commercial strips.


Put it over there where those (damned) apartment complexes and commercial strips are.  Leave our single family homes and adjacent schools away from it. 

Ha ha.  Love it. 

This should be fun.  I'll have to call my brother from 622 miles away and see what his NIMBY stance is on this.

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Posted: 7/22/2014 2:34 PM

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What are the ridership numbers/trends for MARTA? My gut says it is flat or down. Regardless, anyone that has a legitimate vote on this should be required to ride the North line for a week. After doing that, I can't imagine anyone in their right mind voting for expansion.
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Posted: 7/22/2014 2:37 PM

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GTJT622 wrote: Ha ha ha.  Let the NIMBY battles begin.


At least 70 residents attended, and many appeared to favor the expansion provided that it happened on the west side of Ga. 400 through Sandy Springs. The east side of the so-called "Hospitality Highway" has more single-family homes and adjacent schools; the west side includes more apartment complexes and commercial strips.


Put it over there where those (damned) apartment complexes and commercial strips are.  Leave our single family homes and adjacent schools away from it. 

Ha ha.  Love it. 

This should be fun.  I'll have to call my brother from 622 miles away and see what his NIMBY stance is on this.

winkwinkwinkwinkwinkwink


I would think rider density would be better with closer access to dense populations of apartment complexes and denser commercial strip malls.
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Posted: 7/22/2014 2:39 PM

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I work up that way off Windward (although I live in Cobb). I use the North Line to get to the airport occasionally. It's quite handy.

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Posted: 7/22/2014 2:40 PM

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BornAJacket wrote:
GTJT622 wrote: Ha ha ha.  Let the NIMBY battles begin.


At least 70 residents attended, and many appeared to favor the expansion provided that it happened on the west side of Ga. 400 through Sandy Springs. The east side of the so-called "Hospitality Highway" has more single-family homes and adjacent schools; the west side includes more apartment complexes and commercial strips.


Put it over there where those (damned) apartment complexes and commercial strips are.  Leave our single family homes and adjacent schools away from it. 

Ha ha.  Love it. 

This should be fun.  I'll have to call my brother from 622 miles away and see what his NIMBY stance is on this.

winkwinkwinkwinkwinkwink


I would think rider density would be better with closer access to dense populations of apartment complexes and denser commercial strip malls.
True, but those properties are probably more expensive.

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Posted: 7/22/2014 2:41 PM

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BornAJacket wrote:
GTJT622 wrote: Ha ha ha.  Let the NIMBY battles begin.


At least 70 residents attended, and many appeared to favor the expansion provided that it happened on the west side of Ga. 400 through Sandy Springs. The east side of the so-called "Hospitality Highway" has more single-family homes and adjacent schools; the west side includes more apartment complexes and commercial strips.


Put it over there where those (damned) apartment complexes and commercial strips are.  Leave our single family homes and adjacent schools away from it. 

Ha ha.  Love it. 

This should be fun.  I'll have to call my brother from 622 miles away and see what his NIMBY stance is on this.

winkwinkwinkwinkwinkwink


I would think rider density would be better with closer access to dense populations of apartment complexes and denser commercial strip malls.
Maybe so.  I just got a kick out of the quote.  Reminds me so much of Charlottesville where these rich Western Frenchies refuse to let roads be built through their precious farm land.

Regardless, they got to get to a MARTA station somehow to get on the thing - unless they plan to be Sergeant Hulka and dive on top of the train for a ride as it passes by.  biggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin
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Posted: 7/22/2014 3:06 PM

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originalwombat wrote: What are the ridership numbers/trends for MARTA? My gut says it is flat or down. Regardless, anyone that has a legitimate vote on this should be required to ride the North line for a week. After doing that, I can't imagine anyone in their right mind voting for expansion.
To be fair, there is probably a degree of induced demand (ie- if you build it, they will come).  Not to the same level as there is with roads, but I suspect it's there.  Also, inherent in outward expansion is the notion that each additional station away from the core likely serves a smaller feeder population. Hopefully, that's a temporary condition. I'm not sure what the right answer is, other than over a 50-year window, this region needs to work on transportation solutions or gridlock will kill it.
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Posted: 7/22/2014 3:21 PM

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originalwombat wrote: <INSERT ANY SUBJECT HERE> My gut says it is flat or down. 
FTFY
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Posted: 7/22/2014 3:23 PM

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originalwombat wrote: What are the ridership numbers/trends for MARTA? My gut says it is flat or down. Regardless, anyone that has a legitimate vote on this should be required to ride the North line for a week. After doing that, I can't imagine anyone in their right mind voting for expansion.
Actually, it's up, at least along the North Springs line.

http://www.reporternewspapers.net/2014/04/20/marta -ridership-perimeter-2/

Also, the increased frequency in May improved ridership as well. I'll see if I can find a link for that.
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Posted: 7/22/2014 4:17 PM

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steeznutz wrote:
originalwombat wrote: What are the ridership numbers/trends for MARTA? My gut says it is flat or down. Regardless, anyone that has a legitimate vote on this should be required to ride the North line for a week. After doing that, I can't imagine anyone in their right mind voting for expansion.
To be fair, there is probably a degree of induced demand (ie- if you build it, they will come).  Not to the same level as there is with roads, but I suspect it's there.  Also, inherent in outward expansion is the notion that each additional station away from the core likely serves a smaller feeder population. Hopefully, that's a temporary condition. I'm not sure what the right answer is, other than over a 50-year window, this region needs to work on transportation solutions or gridlock will kill it.
Considering Windward's growth as a major employment center, this extension is definitely needed.
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Posted: 7/22/2014 4:22 PM

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I don't see how people can be against public transportation. Anything that takes people off the roads is a positive IMO.

I am still keeping fingers crossed for a Cumberland station on a 285 arc from Doraville with a path down to the North line downtown.

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Posted: 7/22/2014 4:27 PM

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  I still think they screwed up when they didn't put the foundations for the MARTA line in the median of GA. 400 when they did the major widening.
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Posted: 7/22/2014 5:07 PM

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WaCoJacket wrote: I don't see how people can be against public transportation. Anything that takes people off the roads is a positive IMO.

I am still keeping fingers crossed for a Cumberland station on a 285 arc from Doraville with a path down to the North line downtown.

I don't think most are against it.  They just feel the financials don't always work.
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Posted: 7/22/2014 5:08 PM

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GTJT622 wrote:
BornAJacket wrote:
GTJT622 wrote: Ha ha ha.  Let the NIMBY battles begin.


At least 70 residents attended, and many appeared to favor the expansion provided that it happened on the west side of Ga. 400 through Sandy Springs. The east side of the so-called "Hospitality Highway" has more single-family homes and adjacent schools; the west side includes more apartment complexes and commercial strips.


Put it over there where those (damned) apartment complexes and commercial strips are.  Leave our single family homes and adjacent schools away from it. 

Ha ha.  Love it. 

This should be fun.  I'll have to call my brother from 622 miles away and see what his NIMBY stance is on this.

winkwinkwinkwinkwinkwink


I would think rider density would be better with closer access to dense populations of apartment complexes and denser commercial strip malls.
Maybe so.  I just got a kick out of the quote.  Reminds me so much of Charlottesville where these rich Western Frenchies refuse to let roads be built through their precious farm land.

Regardless, they got to get to a MARTA station somehow to get on the thing - unless they plan to be Sergeant Hulka and dive on top of the train for a ride as it passes by.  biggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin
They need more farmland inside big cities as well.
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Posted: 7/22/2014 5:42 PM

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BornAJacket wrote:
GTJT622 wrote:
BornAJacket wrote:
GTJT622 wrote: Ha ha ha.  Let the NIMBY battles begin.


At least 70 residents attended, and many appeared to favor the expansion provided that it happened on the west side of Ga. 400 through Sandy Springs. The east side of the so-called "Hospitality Highway" has more single-family homes and adjacent schools; the west side includes more apartment complexes and commercial strips.


Put it over there where those (damned) apartment complexes and commercial strips are.  Leave our single family homes and adjacent schools away from it. 

Ha ha.  Love it. 

This should be fun.  I'll have to call my brother from 622 miles away and see what his NIMBY stance is on this.

winkwinkwinkwinkwinkwink


I would think rider density would be better with closer access to dense populations of apartment complexes and denser commercial strip malls.
Maybe so.  I just got a kick out of the quote.  Reminds me so much of Charlottesville where these rich Western Frenchies refuse to let roads be built through their precious farm land.

Regardless, they got to get to a MARTA station somehow to get on the thing - unless they plan to be Sergeant Hulka and dive on top of the train for a ride as it passes by.  biggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin
They need more farmland inside big cities as well.
ON the topic of farmland inside cities, I well remember borrowing my uncle's 1956 Ford in 1965 to visit a girl who lived near the square in Marietta. (My uncle lived in South DeKalb)  I remember driving past huge corn and cotton fields between Atlanta and Marietta on Highway 41 (Cobb Parkway).  That surprised me even way back then.  Back then, Atlanta was bragging about their metro area recently passing the 1 million population mark.  I know it is over 4 million now and you sure don't find any cotton growing between the strip malls.
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Posted: 7/22/2014 6:13 PM

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Blech. Please......no
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Posted: 7/22/2014 6:27 PM

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BornAJacket wrote:
GTJT622 wrote:
BornAJacket wrote:
GTJT622 wrote: Ha ha ha.  Let the NIMBY battles begin.


At least 70 residents attended, and many appeared to favor the expansion provided that it happened on the west side of Ga. 400 through Sandy Springs. The east side of the so-called "Hospitality Highway" has more single-family homes and adjacent schools; the west side includes more apartment complexes and commercial strips.


Put it over there where those (damned) apartment complexes and commercial strips are.  Leave our single family homes and adjacent schools away from it. 

Ha ha.  Love it. 

This should be fun.  I'll have to call my brother from 622 miles away and see what his NIMBY stance is on this.

winkwinkwinkwinkwinkwink


I would think rider density would be better with closer access to dense populations of apartment complexes and denser commercial strip malls.
Maybe so.  I just got a kick out of the quote.  Reminds me so much of Charlottesville where these rich Western Frenchies refuse to let roads be built through their precious farm land.

Regardless, they got to get to a MARTA station somehow to get on the thing - unless they plan to be Sergeant Hulka and dive on top of the train for a ride as it passes by.  biggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin
They need more farmland inside big cities as well.
I agree, actually.
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Posted: 7/22/2014 7:10 PM

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That's it, I'm moving. Alpharetta will be ruined.

If people say they don't know why anyone could be against public transport coming to an area that's never had it, you're kidding yourself. I'm not saying I agree, but there are people that are absolutely fearful of a "certain element".

I'd feel a lot better about it of MARTA wasn't such a bunch of clowns.
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Posted: 7/22/2014 7:35 PM

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Buzzrock wrote: That's it, I'm moving. Alpharetta will be ruined.

If people say they don't know why anyone could be against public transport coming to an area that's never had it, you're kidding yourself. I'm not saying I agree, but there are people that are absolutely fearful of a "certain element".

I'd feel a lot better about it of MARTA wasn't such a bunch of clowns.
Are those people under the assumption that black/hispanic people don't have cars?  Are people robbing homes and jumping on Marta trains?  I just never get that.  I live in Cobb County and hear similar reasons.  My next move will have proximity to Marta as one of the requirements (way after my wife's requirements, I'm sure).  

You would think that Cobb, Forsyth, Gwinnett, etc would join Marta and dominate the Marta board.  I wish we have could combine the 7-10 counties of Metro Atlanta and create a central plan for transportation.  Just crazy the amount of fragmentation of issues with overlapping impact.

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