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Wow! What does committed mean?

Posted: 7/26/2014 5:21 PM

Wow! What does committed mean? 


"The recruiting process takes a lot of turns," Singleton responded when asked if he is going to entertain schools moving forward. "I plan on visiting a few places over time, but I'm comfortable with my commitment. To say that I'm not going to entertain other schools isn't fair because I have to. There is too much at stake and too may possibilities of change for me to ignore for me to shut everything down like that."

Not really committed
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Posted: 7/26/2014 5:25 PM

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Welcome to recruiting in 2014. We would be greatly helped by an early signing period...
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Posted: 7/26/2014 5:32 PM

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I encourage everyone to read the entire interview and not just focus on the snippet that was quoted in the OP.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 5:38 PM

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There's nothing wrong with that kid's approach.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 5:57 PM

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So, you think it is ok to hold a scholarship for someone who is still hoping for better offers? I mean, that's basically the case with everyone that currently has an offer from GT - whether committed or not - they'll come to GT if they don't get a better offer. What good does the verbal commit really do for GT? It's just the kid saying, "I will come to GT unless I get something I like better." NO She-ite! I bet you will.

I'm not sure why we don't have an early signing period where when the kids commit, they're partially committed. In other words, it's not binding like a LOI, but there are consequences if they back out. This would stop the casual commitments. The penalty would be something like not being able to sign a LOI for one month after national signing day. The recruit better hope where ever he decides to go actually has a spot for him a month after NSD. Plus, he would miss the fun of NSD. There would also be penalties for the school if they backed out.

Basically, put some meaning behind a "commitment", but not as much meaning as a LOI.

This guy isn't committed. Well, no more than a girl who accepts her boyfriends marriage proposal and says, "yes, unless I find someone better between now and then." How much would you spend on the wedding given that level of commitment? Should CPJ turn down another guy that really wants to come to GT since this guy has said, "I want to come, unless...."? Should CPJ stop looking? I think not. If he is still looking, we dang well better be too. So, there's no real commitment.

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Posted: 7/26/2014 6:03 PM

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buddyroe wrote:

So, you think it is ok to hold a scholarship for someone who is still hoping for better offers?

Yes.  Welcome to recruiting.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 6:05 PM

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GTJT622 wrote: I encourage everyone to read the entire interview and not just focus on the snippet that was quoted in the OP.


Which part in particular would make the fact that he is going to visit elsewhere and keep his options open not important? You mean the part where he said he likes the facilities and likes the coaches? I would hope so if he is even considering us. Nothing in those statements negated what he said about still considering other schools. Unless you saw something I didn't.

I just don't consider a guy committed if he is still looking and will visit other schools. What more has he done than the other guys we have offered? All recruits will come here if we wind up being there best offer (and an offer is still on the table).

Maybe we should just tell everyone we have offered to commit to us and we will hold a spot for them in case GT winds up being their best offer. I'm sure that would work out REALLY well.

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Posted: 7/26/2014 6:16 PM

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Singleton and Philpot are my favorite recruits so far.  I like the Track Stars.
Dont ruin this for me.  As long as LSU doesnt offer, then Singleton will be at GT.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 6:19 PM

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91jacket wrote:
buddyroe wrote:

So, you think it is ok to hold a scholarship for someone who is still hoping for better offers?

Yes.  Welcome to recruiting.
So you think we should never even discuss a better system?
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Posted: 7/26/2014 6:21 PM

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gtne91 wrote:
91jacket wrote:
buddyroe wrote:

So, you think it is ok to hold a scholarship for someone who is still hoping for better offers?

Yes.  Welcome to recruiting.
So you think we should never even discuss a better system?
Did I say that?
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Posted: 7/26/2014 6:31 PM

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buddyroe wrote:


What good does the verbal commit really do for GT? It's just the kid saying, "I will come to GT unless I get something I like better."


+1

I'm sure many Hivers will just see this as a rhetorical question.  

However, I'd love to know the answer.
-StraightJacket
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Posted: 7/26/2014 6:54 PM

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Our coaches talk to these kids weekly, if not daily. As long as the coaches and recruit are on the same page about what the situation is, I don't really worry about what is quoted in a media interview.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 6:57 PM

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91jacket wrote:
gtne91 wrote:
91jacket wrote:
buddyroe wrote:

So, you think it is ok to hold a scholarship for someone who is still hoping for better offers?

Yes.  Welcome to recruiting.
So you think we should never even discuss a better system?
Did I say that?
You answered yes, with reasoning being "welcome to recruiting".  Seems like direct support for the current system.

You could have said "No.  But welcome to recruiting."  Which would have meant you didnt support the current system but its the game we have to play until it changes.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 7:00 PM

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buddyroe wrote:


Well, no more than a girl who accepts her boyfriends marriage proposal and says, "yes, unless I find someone better between now and then." How much would you spend on the wedding given that level of commitment? 


   And you think this doesn't happen ??
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Posted: 7/26/2014 7:46 PM

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gtne91 wrote:
91jacket wrote:
gtne91 wrote:
91jacket wrote:
buddyroe wrote:

So, you think it is ok to hold a scholarship for someone who is still hoping for better offers?

Yes.  Welcome to recruiting.
So you think we should never even discuss a better system?
Did I say that?
You answered yes, with reasoning being "welcome to recruiting".  Seems like direct support for the current system.

You could have said "No.  But welcome to recruiting."  Which would have meant you didnt support the current system but its the game we have to play until it changes.
There was nothing about supporting the current system anywhere in the question I answered.  We could have an entirely different system and still have holding scholarships for somebody who is hoping for better offers.  Stop putting words into my mouth.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 8:59 PM

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91jacket wrote: There's nothing wrong with that kid's approach.

We should let him know that we are not really committed to him either.  If he is not committed to his football scholarship, will he be committed to conditioning, discipline, winning, etc?  We shouldn't necessarily be ready to welcome him back with open arms just because he doesn't get any more offers.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 9:00 PM

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ctmoore8 wrote:
91jacket wrote: There's nothing wrong with that kid's approach.

We should let him know that we are not really committed to him either.  If he is not committed to his football scholarship, will he be committed to conditioning, discipline, winning, etc?  We shouldn't necessarily be ready to welcome him back with open arms just because he doesn't get any more offers.
rolleyesrolleyesrolleyes

CT, permanently stuck in 1970.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 9:06 PM

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Wish the NCAA would allow an early signing period - say August 1st - and see how many of these early commitments are for real!
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Posted: 7/26/2014 9:17 PM

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Not gonna bother reading all of the back & forth.  Ironically, his commitment prompted a comment from another GT commit that many think is not really committed.  Hopefully, they both stick when it's all said & done.

Me and @BSingleton19 taking our talents to Ga.Tech ! Big things are bound to happen now. Congrats bro. Hmu #YellowJackets

— ChristianCampbell (@Its_Campbell) July 26, 2014

@Its_Campbell belehh dat!😈🐝🏈

— Brandon Singleton (@BSingleton19) July 26, 2014
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Posted: 7/26/2014 10:23 PM

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gtisdabest wrote:
ctmoore8 wrote:
91jacket wrote: There's nothing wrong with that kid's approach.

We should let him know that we are not really committed to him either.  If he is not committed to his football scholarship, will he be committed to conditioning, discipline, winning, etc?  We shouldn't necessarily be ready to welcome him back with open arms just because he doesn't get any more offers.
rolleyesrolleyesrolleyes

CT, permanently stuck in 1970.

If "integrity" in giving your word means I'm "stuck" in a 1970 value belief, then please throw ME into that category, too.

Why?  Because I happen to believe "integrity" is supposed to be a "timeless value" ; not just some old-fashioned fad that others think has gone out-of-style.



As an aside, I think some Hivers ignore the fact that recruiting is a two-way street because they keep absolving kids' behavior as if recruiting is a one-way sale.  

Recruiting is NOT like B2B field sales.  Coaches have upper LIMITS.  NO SALES JOB I've ever had EVER put an upper LIMIT on how much I could sell.  This is more like company merger acquisitions, and you do those deals ONE AT A TIME - because each deal impacts OTHER deals.  We may have 24 scholarships this year, and the coaching staff MUST balance between the classes, positions of need, and other considerations - on a LIMITED BUDGET for "acquisitions" (i.e. limited number of scholarships).   

Again ... we have maybe 24 scholarships ... not 124 ... or 1124 ... or unlimited with no ceiling, but ... 24!  A commitment loss at signing day is a killer, and yet we have fans who say the kid did "nothing wrong" ... "that's just the way it is in 2014" ... etc.

Nonsense.  These kids are nearly draft eligible to fight in a war.  With real guns.  Time to grow up.  Don't give your word until you're READY to give your word.  And mean it.  

Soap box off.  And back to my ...
-StraightJacket

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