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Posted: 7/1/2014 4:11 PM

Ground hogs 


Looking for the answer to finally get rid of ground hogs. Used to trap them and take them away to a legal forest for leatting them go. But we have one that is just too smart for the trap. No matter what fruit or veges, she won't go in.
She has 2 holes, 2 escape routes. The tunnel goes from my house to my neighbors, under the shed and under our wooden fence. We keep refilling the hole, dirt, then rocks and dirt, then covered with brick, even used critter ridder.............it has to be the mom, because now there are babies.
Last night we opened the open hole and put down wire fencing, filling it in with the dirt, rocks, then covered with bricks again.
This morning, the hole was dug again, ......she just went down the line until she found a fresh area to dig...............HELP!!!!
Dawn.......Zone 6a.......Niantic, CT
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Posted: 7/1/2014 4:13 PM

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Sorry, we don't have ground hogs down here, but we do have moles.  We've have waged war on them and have trapped bunches.  We do relocate though!
Betty, Northcentral Louisiana, Zone 8
I asked God for a flower, and He gave me a garden.
I asked Him for a tree, and He gave me a forest.
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Posted: 7/1/2014 10:54 PM

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We do have marmots here, groundhog's desert cousins. I checked with our co-op extension service for their recommendations. You are on the right track with your exclusion activities, but if you are successful it will just move to be someone elses problem. But, the co-op had two more solutions: 1. shooting them - I think they might be directing that comment toward rural folks, 2. poison bait - you will probably need to hire a professional for that as the EPA has pretty much shut down the DIY poisoning business, and if you accidently poisoned a pet it would be a real bummer.

They also mentioned the illegal nature of relocating live rodents in Nevada due to disease issues.

If you can grab the babies and hand raise them I understand they make good pets, kinda like guinea pigs. 

Good luck.

High desert grass and shrubland, zone 5, cold desert of Northern Nevada. 
Reporting live from the deadly Forty Mile Desert of Nevada.

Last edited 7/1/2014 11:00 PM by ruby2s

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Posted: 7/2/2014 8:01 AM

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You might run out right now and get a handful of smoke bombs and try a couple since you know where they go in and out. light one or two, toss in, then cap the end of the tunnel to trap the smoke in with them. Straight sulphur is also useful because it's an eye and skin irritant. Just be careful applying it. Don't inhale it.
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Chris Behrens
Pendleton, SC (near Clemson, SC)
USDA Cold Zone 7/AHS Heat Zone 7
thatcompostguy@hotmail.com
National Home Gardening Club member since 1998

**OUT OF TOWN 8/23 - 8/31

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Posted: 7/3/2014 7:00 AM

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I think we might have beaten that ground hog with the wire. Since we buried the wire, everyday there has been digging, until the wire is showing. Less digging everyday. I think she is giving up.
We have moles, mice, etc. but the cats take care of those. I am only sad when they get a chipmunk.
Dawn.......Zone 6a.......Niantic, CT

Last edited 7/3/2014 7:02 AM by Kitkat45

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Posted: 7/3/2014 8:53 PM

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I put up Owl boxes a few years ago and it seems to be helping. My neighbor has been using a machine that puts gas down the hole then he ignights it to kill squirrel's, it is so loud I totally dislike him doing that.
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Posted: 7/4/2014 8:06 AM

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OMG. I can't believe your neighbor blowing up the place. Is that even legal? But to kill squirrels?
What is an owl box?
Dawn.......Zone 6a.......Niantic, CT
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Posted: 7/4/2014 10:31 AM

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Herb, that's funny. I used to get rid of black widow spiders in holes that way when I was a kid. Used a squirt gun full of gasoline. Can't do that now, the ethanol in gasoline makes the squirt gun leak.

Dawn, an owl box is a bird's nest for owls. Different sizes and shapes depending on what kind of owls you have locally. They are effecient predators of small rodents (your ground hog may be too big) and work quietly only at night, can be messy though. There are builder plans on various craft and bird websites. But they usually need to be up high, 15 feet or more above ground.

High desert grass and shrubland, zone 5, cold desert of Northern Nevada. 
Reporting live from the deadly Forty Mile Desert of Nevada.

Last edited 7/4/2014 10:31 AM by ruby2s

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Posted: 7/4/2014 1:04 PM

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just flood the hole with water an smash em with baseball bat when they come out
so goes the church ,so goes the nation
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Posted: 7/6/2014 7:54 PM

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We used to have a problem with groundhogs until they started getting lead poisoning!  My husband is a super marksman.  If you can't shoot where you live, guess you are stuck with them.
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Posted: 7/7/2014 7:11 AM

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Hello and wecome, Elissa.  Glad to have you on the new gardening club forum.  How about going to the New Member Forum and introducing yourself and also would you add your location and zone in your signature.  It helps when questions come up about plants, etc.  Thanks and enjoy!
Betty, Northcentral Louisiana, Zone 8
I asked God for a flower, and He gave me a garden.
I asked Him for a tree, and He gave me a forest.
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Posted: 7/7/2014 8:01 AM

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Caddy Shack!
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Chris Behrens
Pendleton, SC (near Clemson, SC)
USDA Cold Zone 7/AHS Heat Zone 7
thatcompostguy@hotmail.com
National Home Gardening Club member since 1998

**OUT OF TOWN 8/23 - 8/31

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Posted: 7/7/2014 8:18 AM

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Betty, Northcentral Louisiana, Zone 8
I asked God for a flower, and He gave me a garden.
I asked Him for a tree, and He gave me a forest.
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Posted: 7/7/2014 8:59 PM

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Chris, that brought back memories.

High desert grass and shrubland, zone 5, cold desert of Northern Nevada. 
Reporting live from the deadly Forty Mile Desert of Nevada.
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Posted: 7/8/2014 12:06 PM

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Ha yes kiyote, grab your golf clubs! :)

I live in an area zoned agriculture Kitkat45, different rules apply and I think this falls into a gray area probably depending on complaints. When my neighbor first started doing it an on duty county sheriff happened to be at a nearby park along the river about 1/4 mile from my place and he came immediately to see what had happened (It was so loud I'm sure he thought someones house or barn had just blown up), the officer told the guy to stop and he did...for awhile!

Owls are wonderful hunters, most orchards and vineyards around here have gone to Owl boxes but it can take a season or two to get the nest boxes occupied.

Ruby...OMG, I'm glad you didn't blow your little fingers off! :)


Zone 9

Last edited 7/8/2014 12:09 PM by herblover

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Posted: 7/8/2014 12:52 PM

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Oh My Gosh!! You people are so funny. gasoline squirt guns, baseball bats, bombs! The ground hog babies are the size of my cats, 12-14 lbs. a baby one came through my cat door onto the porch for a drink of water.

We had trapped and relocated some big ones. they were like animals from hell!!
This one big guy, my son and hubby took him to the woods for relocation, and he would NOT run out of the trap!!! He was showing his teeth and hissing so loud, they just ran back into the car. Slowly, very carefully, these two grown men grabbed sticks and had to keep hitting the cage before he ran out. I sure wish I had that on video!
Dawn.......Zone 6a.......Niantic, CT
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Posted: 7/8/2014 2:05 PM

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I relocated a raccoon one time and he was hard to get out of the live trap also. It was in the back of the pickup truck and I was up in the bed with it. I tried to dump it off the back. That was the last one that I relocated. The only one, really. All the rest (not that many, really) met their demise.

I trapped a skunk last fall intentionally, and it was dead before I could get to it. No smell. I was pretty surprised. And relieved I didn't have to aim carefully. Trap was pretty far from the house just in case.
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Chris Behrens
Pendleton, SC (near Clemson, SC)
USDA Cold Zone 7/AHS Heat Zone 7
thatcompostguy@hotmail.com
National Home Gardening Club member since 1998

**OUT OF TOWN 8/23 - 8/31

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Posted: 7/8/2014 5:51 PM

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I relocated a bull snake and one rattlesnake. Neither of which would get out of the bucket. With the bull snake I just dumped him out. He hissed, puffed up, did his rattlesnake impression and struck at me, but it was all bluff. The rattlesnake I thought was being sinister and waiting to "get me". Finally I hit the bucket with a big rock and rolled it over; snake departed for a big bush, I departed for the truck.

High desert grass and shrubland, zone 5, cold desert of Northern Nevada. 
Reporting live from the deadly Forty Mile Desert of Nevada.

Last edited 7/8/2014 5:52 PM by ruby2s

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Posted: 7/9/2014 2:00 PM

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I used to set my trap at night, until the night I trapped a skunk. I threw a blanket over it, and very carefully, from behind, got the door open and he took off. ........and he was so kind as to not spray......lucky there.
So I only trap during the day, but have given up. When I see the ground hog eating my greenery, I just chase it away...... Jeepers, they only need to go down the street and get some Chinese food.
Dawn.......Zone 6a.......Niantic, CT
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