MagicBo7 wrote: all of our other coaches who have gone further than how athletic the players is.

The Alabama kids look like a felony waiting to happen.....AND the Bama coaches aren't doing much to reform them into good citizens.

Magic

I agree blaming Coaches for kids going down the wrong path and making bad decisions never made any sense to me. My 7 grade teacher Mr. Fellman had it right when a kid acted up in his class – he would scream out it’s the parents fault!

There is nothing remotely close to Oregon's "off field" issues and Alabama and Auburn players committing premeditated violent crimes.   

The worst off field incident I think is Embry's non violent burglary.  But correct me if I'm wrong.  He wasn't even a Duck football player when it happened.  He had already been booted from the team.  It was never established Masoli had anything to do with it.   What Alonzo did was bad on the surface.  But that should be in the category of embarrassingly stupid.  Kind of like OSU players stealing sheep. 

This incident at Alabama suggests serious lack of control where players are doing whatever the hell they want and don't know up from down.   The fact that they quickly dismiss these players and throw them under the bus makes it even worst IMO.  
 

Clydekins wrote:

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The Oregon coaching staff has faced off-field issues with players, including some on Chip Kelly coached teams:

Jeremiah Masoli
Jamere Holland
Rob Beard
Embry
Cliff Harris
Darron Thomas (by association)
LaMichael James (incident with his girlfriend)
Josh Huff (DUII)

We all want the student-athletes on the teams at Oregon to be good students, good athletes and good people. BUT any time you bring together a large group of people to form an organization you are bound to have individuals make choices that reflect poorly on themselves and their group - it happens in colleges, high schools, and companies everywhere.

Yes, I think the Oregon coaching staff makes a point of looking for "good people" to build their teams. But even a "good person" can lack appropriate judgment at any point in time - and I cannot hold a coach or teacher responsible when those folks can't watch the student 24-7.

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I guess that I can understand the following names when it comes to referencing off-field issues with players who played for Chip Kelly:

Jeremiah Masoli (burglary, marijuana in car while suspended) - Booted

Garrett Embry (burglary) - Booted

Rob Beard (street fight, watching Bowlin's back) - Suspended two games, beaten up

Cliff Harris (excessive speeding, driving while suspended, smoking it all) - Booted

As well as the following:

LeGarrette Blount (fighting during a game, bringing shame to the program) - Suspended 10 games of his senior season

Mike Bowlin (street fight, saying mean things to a woman, not watching Beard's back) - Booted

Kiko Alonso (DUII, menacing while intoxicated) - Suspended for entire sophomore season and the first game of his junior season

Eddie Pleasant (street racing) - Scarred for life, suspended two games after missing one game for recovery

Terrance Montgomery (domestic abuse) - Booted

Tyson Coleman (attempting to elude, minor in possession, showing recruits a dorm room filled with hoochies and a bong) - May be on a short leash at the moment, was suspended for the Rose Bowl due to the attempt to elude and minor in possession charges

But these guys did very little to nothing and are being associated with the above:

LaMichael James (all charges dropped with the exception of 4th degree menacing) - Suspended for a game

Jamere Holland (lazy at school and practice, not very smart when it comes to social network postings) - Booted

Darron Thomas (what did he do wrong besides be a passenger in the same cars as Pleasant, Masoli and Harris?...he was never charged with anything) - No action taken

Josh Huff (acquitted...so the DUII reference to him no longer applies) - No action taken

Isaac Remington (same as Huff...case dropped, no guilt or reference to DUII should be applied) - Suspended for a game, but was allowed to travel and possibly play in consideration of whether his case would be dropped in time...it wasn't.

Of the players listed above only Tyson Coleman, Josh Huff and Isaac Remington arrived after Chip Kelly became head coach...and Huff and Remington technically didn't do anything wrong other than make themselves targets for police officers who wrongly exercised their intoxication sensors. The others were all Mike Bellotti's recruits.

Knock on wood, but so far everyone else has done a good job of being outstanding citizens. Then again, now and after Spring Drills are usually the time for shenanigans to happen if they happen.