The reason Runge has not landed another job is that she has a record of being a pain in the a$$ for an AD. In womens college basketball, there isn't really a huge push to win as most programs don't draw much in the way of attendance if you win or lose, so if you are an AD looking to fill a coaching position are you going to hire someone who kicks your door down every week and wins conference championships or who doesn't even know where your office is and finishes in the middle of the pack?

Finishing in the middle of the pack would be a huge improvement...

MajorOffender wrote: The reason Runge has not landed another job is that she has a record of being a pain in the a$$ for an AD. In womens college basketball, there isn't really a huge push to win as most programs don't draw much in the way of attendance if you win or lose, so if you are an AD looking to fill a coaching position are you going to hire someone who kicks your door down every week and wins conference championships or who doesn't even know where your office is and finishes in the middle of the pack?

I agree, Gaiser, BUT the dumping on would not be happenign if Mullens stepped up and did his job. There is little real option, other than sites like this if problems are being ignored.

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Westhead will be 74 in a couple weeks.  End of discussion.  Its probably time Oregon moved on to another coach and there is no need to dump on Westhead.  Lets just say this is about the age Paterno was at when Penn St should have let him go.   And Westhead is no Paterno (either in the good or bad way).

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<blockquote dir="ltr"><strong>Drakewing wrote:</strong> Yeah nobody wants to hire someone who will fight for pay equality!

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--- charlestonduck wrote:

Runge was a great coach, but there were some issues . . . don't you think there is a reason she never got another coaching job?

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--- Drakewing wrote:

Heaven forbid a woman trying to get some semblance of equality from the AD!

Runge was a great coach! Big mistake letting her go!

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---------------------------------------------</ blockquote><span style="color: #008000; font-size: large;"><em>Runge was "allegedly" abusive... players revolted under her, There was a lot of unrest. Think John Mackovic at Arizona. Some of you either don't remember or choose to ignore that fact. Winning is great, but if it's not done the right way, it's tearing the program down instead of building it.</em></span>

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The former players have gone on record that the meeting was called by Moos who was looking for ammo to fire her cause she didn't take a backseat to the men's program. Her former players have written letters of recommendation for her ( do abused players write letters of recommendation usually?). She was railroaded by the good ole boys network because she fought for equality. Too bad really cause she was a great coach.


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oregon11 wrote: except arizona was always terrible under john mackovic, and our women's program most certainly wasn't being torn down during runge's reign at the top. it was ascending to heights never before seen in program history. the way a lot of people remember the 'player revolt' is bill moos instigating a meeting prying for gossip like a god damn thirteen year old girl; many players wrote to the administration after runge was dismissed saying it was completely bogus. i believe you'll find quotes to that extent in the ESPN article that has already been linked.

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Runge was "allegedly" abusive... players revolted under her, There was a lot of unrest. Think John Mackovic at Arizona. Some of you either don't remember or choose to ignore that fact. Winning is great, but if it's not done the right way, it's tearing the program down instead of building it.

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Fighting for equality, one shoe at a time.

That's only partially true. From what I have heard, a big reason why she has never gotten another coaching gig since being ousted by Moos, is that she was black-listed and made into damaged goods by her former bosses at Oregon.
Runge won A LOT of games at Oregon and took I believe 6 teams to the NCAA tourney during her time there, which is far more than any other women's coach at Oregon by a longshot.
She deserved better than how she was treated by Moos, and should have gotten a coaching job somewhere else.

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The reason Runge has not landed another job is that she has a record of being a pain in the a$$ for an AD. In womens college basketball, there isn't really a huge push to win as most programs don't draw much in the way of attendance if you win or lose, so if you are an AD looking to fill a coaching position are you going to hire someone who kicks your door down every week and wins conference championships or who doesn't even know where your office is and finishes in the middle of the pack?

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What she wanted wasn't "pay equality".  What she wanted was to be paid the same as the coach of the Men's BB team.  Her request was completely disregarding of the fact that the Men's BB team was producing significant revenue for the U, and the women's team wasn't.

Ergo, the position of coach of the men's team is worth more than that of the women's team, not having anything to do with gender, but with the value of the program to the university.  Had she been the Pac-12 equivalent of Pat Summit, and had produced revenue from the women's program equivalent to that of the men's program, THEN she would have a strong case for being paid the same.  Had she been the head coach of a men's team, she would have a strong case for being paid the same.  Had she and EK switched positions, she would have been worth more than EK, because of the importance of the job, not the gender of the person holding it.

Got that?

Drakewing wrote: Yeah nobody wants to hire someone who will fight for pay equality!

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Runge was a great coach, but there were some issues . . . don't you think there is a reason she never got another coaching job?

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--- Drakewing wrote:

Heaven forbid a woman trying to get some semblance of equality from the AD!

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I had never heard that about Haney. If anything, I heard the opposite. Haney was NOT a basketball coach to any degree. He was more of a administrative type of guy, and it WAS Harter that was the "brains in the outfit", so to speak. Harter had great success at Penn before coming to Oregon, and had a style that translated well into winning.
Haney had nothing to do with it.
Haney was just a guy on the bench who got way too much credit for things he never had a hand in contributing to Oregon's great run in the mid 1970's.
After Haney was THANKFULLY fired in 1983 (he should have been fired in 1981), he later became the Commissioner of the Missouri Valley conference, which was more his style and forte as an administrator in that kind of job.
Haney was a terrible basketball coach, no matter how you slice it.
Harter pushed very hard for him, and that was a huge mistake.
Boyd Grant really wanted the job at Oregon, and he should have been hired instead over Haney. Hiring Haney then Monson set our BB program back 15 years, due to those really bad hires.
Haney got great talent while at Oregon because of assistant coach O'Brien getting him players, but in terms of X's and O's, anyone of us could have done a far better job of that than Haney.
(I always hated when Haney kept saying that the reason why we lost game after game after game, was the players were not cohesive enough).

He said that way too often like he was being paid to say it by the makers of Elmer's glue...

As far as Litz not getting a high-level D1 job, I believe that it was due to many factors. He was a very good defensive coach, and learned his trade under Boyd Grant at Colorado State, and he probably was more suited at the time to being an assistant at that level.
He has had some success at Vanguard College in So-Cal in the past with the Oregon City girl transfers 10 years ago, but I have not heard much about him since when my friends graduated from there, and left the program.


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This kind of talk always reminds me Jim Haney who was Dick Harters top assistant. They said the same thing at the time; Haney is the real brains and strategist, the players look to him, blah, blah, blah.

If Fred L. was the brains under Runge then by what you say he needs to be credited with all the success and NCAA tourny appearances.

So here is my question. Why is it he is not coaching in a major conference and taking his team to the NCAA on a regular basis like he is said to have done at Oregon?

This idea, in my opinion, is a common mistake when it comes to basketball.  Take Harter, Wooden and Ralph Miller.  All three generally appeared as if they were just standing around, and their assistance were doing it all. 

And yet all threes had long time assistants promoted when they left. They all failed miserably.

<blockquote dir="ltr" ><strong>talos4 wrote:</strong> You're thinking Fred Litzenberger, who was until recently, the coach of a women's Collegiate team (Vanguard University) in So-Cal, in Marty's neck of the woods, iirc. His teams down there had a great number of Oregon girls High school players (mainly Oregon City girls) as transfers on them during one time for many years.

You're also right about Fred being THE brains behind the team- especially in terms of defense, too, because he was.
Jody was a good coach, obviously, but those in-the-know have said that the great success of the women's team was due to Litz primarily, and having really good talent to play there.
Litz was also responsible for the great success of the men's teams too, during his run as the primary defensive coach under Kent.

I also believe that the major reason why she has not gotten a job anywhere else, is because she was black-listed as coach by the former Admins (Moos and others) at Oregon, who created a means by which she could not find work anywhere else.
As far as I have heard, Runge is still selling at the Nordstroms up in Portland.

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Regardless of DUCKe's history revisionist post, Jody Runge was fired because of a player revolt.  She was not the strategist.  The male assistant, short fellow, I've forgotten his name, was the only person who even spoke or drew diagrams during times out.  Jody just stood there and listened.  I had season tickets during Jody's tenure, and the first three years of Bev.

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Candidly, what happened with Haney, Litz, or anyone else doesn't matter. What matters is: Do we have an AD who wants to solve this problem, or an AD who hopes that it will simply go away. As much of a Mullens fan as I am, I am left to only conclude that he hopes it goes away, and that is not the way to run a department with the public interest of his. None of the rest of these excuses/reasons matter, Mr. Mullens. JUST DO YOUR JOB!

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I had never heard that about Haney. If anything, I heard the opposite. Haney was NOT a basketball coach to any degree. He was more of a administrative type of guy, and it WAS Harter that was the "brains in the outfit", so to speak. Harter had great success at Penn before coming to Oregon, and had a style that translated well into winning.
Haney had nothing to do with it.
Haney was just a guy on the bench who got way too much credit for things he never had a hand in contributing to Oregon's great run in the mid 1970's.
After Haney was THANKFULLY fired in 1983 (he should have been fired in 1981), he later became the Commissioner of the Missouri Valley conference, which was more his style and forte as an administrator in that kind of job.
Haney was a terrible basketball coach, no matter how you slice it.
Harter pushed very hard for him, and that was a huge mistake.
Boyd Grant really wanted the job at Oregon, and he should have been hired instead over Haney. Hiring Haney then Monson set our BB program back 15 years, due to those really bad hires.
Haney got great talent while at Oregon because of assistant coach O'Brien getting him players, but in terms of X's and O's, anyone of us could have done a far better job of that than Haney.
(I always hated when Haney kept saying that the reason why we lost game after game after game, was the players were not cohesive enough).

He said that way too often like he was being paid to say it by the makers of Elmer's glue...

As far as Litz not getting a high-level D1 job, I believe that it was due to many factors. He was a very good defensive coach, and learned his trade under Boyd Grant at Colorado State, and he probably was more suited at the time to being an assistant at that level.
He has had some success at Vanguard College in So-Cal in the past with the Oregon City girl transfers 10 years ago, but I have not heard much about him since when my friends graduated from there, and left the program.


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This kind of talk always reminds me Jim Haney who was Dick Harters top assistant. They said the same thing at the time; Haney is the real brains and strategist, the players look to him, blah, blah, blah.

If Fred L. was the brains under Runge then by what you say he needs to be credited with all the success and NCAA tourny appearances.

So here is my question. Why is it he is not coaching in a major conference and taking his team to the NCAA on a regular basis like he is said to have done at Oregon?

This idea, in my opinion, is a common mistake when it comes to basketball.  Take Harter, Wooden and Ralph Miller.  All three generally appeared as if they were just standing around, and their assistance were doing it all. 

And yet all threes had long time assistants promoted when they left. They all failed miserably.

<blockquote dir="ltr" ><strong>talos4 wrote:</strong> You're thinking Fred Litzenberger, who was until recently, the coach of a women's Collegiate team (Vanguard University) in So-Cal, in Marty's neck of the woods, iirc. His teams down there had a great number of Oregon girls High school players (mainly Oregon City girls) as transfers on them during one time for many years.

You're also right about Fred being THE brains behind the team- especially in terms of defense, too, because he was.
Jody was a good coach, obviously, but those in-the-know have said that the great success of the women's team was due to Litz primarily, and having really good talent to play there.
Litz was also responsible for the great success of the men's teams too, during his run as the primary defensive coach under Kent.

I also believe that the major reason why she has not gotten a job anywhere else, is because she was black-listed as coach by the former Admins (Moos and others) at Oregon, who created a means by which she could not find work anywhere else.
As far as I have heard, Runge is still selling at the Nordstroms up in Portland.

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--- GrampaDuck wrote:

Regardless of DUCKe's history revisionist post, Jody Runge was fired because of a player revolt.  She was not the strategist.  The male assistant, short fellow, I've forgotten his name, was the only person who even spoke or drew diagrams during times out.  Jody just stood there and listened.  I had season tickets during Jody's tenure, and the first three years of Bev.

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As far as being blacklisted, sue your employer and see how many other companies want to hire you.  Reduce that list even further when they see that your case was built on faulty logic and must have included a chip on one's shoulder, and THAT is what makes you unemployable.  No one from the AD had to say a word, or likely did.

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She wasn't liked cause she chose to be confrontational at every turn. She didn't like the AD, didn't like the fans, and reportedly didn't treat her players very well

Other than that, Runge was perfect

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I was working for the Sports Information Department while Jody Runge was the women's basketball coach. My interaction with her was nothing but pleasant and professional. She was focused and driven. What got her in hot water with the Athletic Department was that she had to resort to threatening a lawsuit in order to have equal standing as far as court time and practice times were concerned, and she also believed that her salary was low considering the job she had done in elevating the program after it had struggled in Elwin Heiny's final few seasons.

If she were coaching now with Matthew Knight Arena and the practice courts available, and making what Paul Westhead currently makes, I highly doubt that there'd be a conflict between her and the AD.

Her no nonsense approach could be abrasive, but she was dealing with what I would describe to be an "old boys' network" within the Athletic Department at the time. She would also conflict with some of her players, but the players that she mentored more often shared her stubborn and inflexible stance as well. So it's understandable that there would be friction when similar personalities oppose one another.

She was very hurt to be let go from the Oregon basketball program in the manner that happened. What was said about her essentially black-listed her, and she lost the fire to be a head coach at a major program due to it. Since her dismissal, she has lived quietly in the Portland area taking on a number of businesses and careers that she enjoys.

Anyone who says that Jody Runge deserved to be canned by Bill Moos and the Oregon AD is usually parroting the point of view of the Athletic Department at the time. If people were to get to know her and have an open mind in listening to what she was asking for (or demanding, as some would say), feelings about her and the justification for her dismissal would be very different.

Thank you, Clydekins. It was nice to hear another perspective. It is interesting that a female who leads is portrayed as strident and pushy while her male counterpart is aggressive and forceful. It's is all in the words chosen to describe them. I felt all along  that was more the case when Runge was fired. It's unfortunate that women have had to fight and scrape to attain any parity, but sadly that is the case in many instances.


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Very well said, Clydekins, and spot on.
Runge was rail-roaded by Moos, and given the shaft.
She deserved far better.
There's a reason why Moos was BOOED and despised by Phil Knight, and then was subsequently FIRED by the U of O, and people need to remember that.
He was a bad and compromised Athletic Director, who should have never gotten the job at Oregon in the first place.

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She wasn't liked cause she chose to be confrontational at every turn. She didn't like the AD, didn't like the fans, and reportedly didn't treat her players very well

Other than that, Runge was perfect

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I was working for the Sports Information Department while Jody Runge was the women's basketball coach. My interaction with her was nothing but pleasant and professional. She was focused and driven. What got her in hot water with the Athletic Department was that she had to resort to threatening a lawsuit in order to have equal standing as far as court time and practice times were concerned, and she also believed that her salary was low considering the job she had done in elevating the program after it had struggled in Elwin Heiny's final few seasons.

If she were coaching now with Matthew Knight Arena and the practice courts available, and making what Paul Westhead currently makes, I highly doubt that there'd be a conflict between her and the AD.

Her no nonsense approach could be abrasive, but she was dealing with what I would describe to be an "old boys' network" within the Athletic Department at the time. She would also conflict with some of her players, but the players that she mentored more often shared her stubborn and inflexible stance as well. So it's understandable that there would be friction when similar personalities oppose one another.

She was very hurt to be let go from the Oregon basketball program in the manner that happened. What was said about her essentially black-listed her, and she lost the fire to be a head coach at a major program due to it. Since her dismissal, she has lived quietly in the Portland area taking on a number of businesses and careers that she enjoys.

Anyone who says that Jody Runge deserved to be canned by Bill Moos and the Oregon AD is usually parroting the point of view of the Athletic Department at the time. If people were to get to know her and have an open mind in listening to what she was asking for (or demanding, as some would say), feelings about her and the justification for her dismissal would be very different.

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So explain Paul Westhead's salary!!!


Got that!!!


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What she wanted wasn't "pay equality".  What she wanted was to be paid the same as the coach of the Men's BB team.  Her request was completely disregarding of the fact that the Men's BB team was producing significant revenue for the U, and the women's team wasn't.

Ergo, the position of coach of the men's team is worth more than that of the women's team, not having anything to do with gender, but with the value of the program to the university.  Had she been the Pac-12 equivalent of Pat Summit, and had produced revenue from the women's program equivalent to that of the men's program, THEN she would have a strong case for being paid the same.  Had she been the head coach of a men's team, she would have a strong case for being paid the same.  Had she and EK switched positions, she would have been worth more than EK, because of the importance of the job, not the gender of the person holding it.

Got that?
<blockquote dir="ltr" ><strong>Drakewing wrote:</strong> Yeah nobody wants to hire someone who will fight for pay equality!

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--- charlestonduck wrote:

Runge was a great coach, but there were some issues . . . don't you think there is a reason she never got another coaching job?

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--- Drakewing wrote:

Heaven forbid a woman trying to get some semblance of equality from the AD!

Runge was a great coach! Big mistake letting her go!

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Not defending Westhead's salary at all.  He is vastly overpaid for what he delivers, and should be fired ASAP.  If you want to hire Runge back at something akin to his pay, I think that (or pretty much anyone else who cares) would be an upgrade.

I am also not defending Moos or anyone else in the AD office.  But it's a simple fact of work life that if you sue, or threaten to sue, your employer, no matter how justified you were or think you were, your marketability goes in the dumper.  Because your next employer has to wonder if you will sue them, too, and they generally won't want the risk.

Runge was paid competitively for what she delivered, and complaining about it in the way she did (and she did frame it the way I said she did), is what led to her breaking down relationships.

Drakewing wrote: So explain Paul Westhead's salary!!!


Got that!!!


And comment on this as well!

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--- SeaDuck79 wrote:

What she wanted wasn't "pay equality".  What she wanted was to be paid the same as the coach of the Men's BB team.  Her request was completely disregarding of the fact that the Men's BB team was producing significant revenue for the U, and the women's team wasn't.

Ergo, the position of coach of the men's team is worth more than that of the women's team, not having anything to do with gender, but with the value of the program to the university.  Had she been the Pac-12 equivalent of Pat Summit, and had produced revenue from the women's program equivalent to that of the men's program, THEN she would have a strong case for being paid the same.  Had she been the head coach of a men's team, she would have a strong case for being paid the same.  Had she and EK switched positions, she would have been worth more than EK, because of the importance of the job, not the gender of the person holding it.

Got that?
<blockquote dir="ltr" ><strong>Drakewing wrote:</strong> Yeah nobody wants to hire someone who will fight for pay equality!

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--- charlestonduck wrote:

Runge was a great coach, but there were some issues . . . don't you think there is a reason she never got another coaching job?

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--- Drakewing wrote:

Heaven forbid a woman trying to get some semblance of equality from the AD!

Runge was a great coach! Big mistake letting her go!

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SeaDuck, you make your case well, but it still avoids the reality that Mullens need to act. No matter what happened, who did it, or who it was done to, this mess needs resolution. The discussion of personalities, and rewrites of historic fact do nothing other than confuse the issue and allow it to continue to be ignored.

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Not defending Westhead's salary at all.  He is vastly overpaid for what he delivers, and should be fired ASAP.  If you want to hire Runge back at something akin to his pay, I think that (or pretty much anyone else who cares) would be an upgrade.

I am also not defending Moos or anyone else in the AD office.  But it's a simple fact of work life that if you sue, or threaten to sue, your employer, no matter how justified you were or think you were, your marketability goes in the dumper.  Because your next employer has to wonder if you will sue them, too, and they generally won't want the risk.

Runge was paid competitively for what she delivered, and complaining about it in the way she did (and she did frame it the way I said she did), is what led to her breaking down relationships.
<blockquote dir="ltr" ><strong>Drakewing wrote:</strong> So explain Paul Westhead's salary!!!


Got that!!!


And comment on this as well!

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--- SeaDuck79 wrote:

What she wanted wasn't "pay equality".  What she wanted was to be paid the same as the coach of the Men's BB team.  Her request was completely disregarding of the fact that the Men's BB team was producing significant revenue for the U, and the women's team wasn't.

Ergo, the position of coach of the men's team is worth more than that of the women's team, not having anything to do with gender, but with the value of the program to the university.  Had she been the Pac-12 equivalent of Pat Summit, and had produced revenue from the women's program equivalent to that of the men's program, THEN she would have a strong case for being paid the same.  Had she been the head coach of a men's team, she would have a strong case for being paid the same.  Had she and EK switched positions, she would have been worth more than EK, because of the importance of the job, not the gender of the person holding it.

Got that?
<blockquote dir="ltr" ><strong>Drakewing wrote:</strong> Yeah nobody wants to hire someone who will fight for pay equality!

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--- charlestonduck wrote:

Runge was a great coach, but there were some issues . . . don't you think there is a reason she never got another coaching job?

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--- Drakewing wrote:

Heaven forbid a woman trying to get some semblance of equality from the AD!

Runge was a great coach! Big mistake letting her go!

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It's off topic, sure, but I don't disagree that a change has to be made for the good of the program.  He was good the first year, and worse every year since.  I think his time is done, and it's time for some new blood and new energy in the program.

FirstDuck wrote: SeaDuck, you make your case well, but it still avoids the reality that Mullens need to act. No matter what happened, who did it, or who it was done to, this mess needs resolution. The discussion of personalities, and rewrites of historic fact do nothing other than confuse the issue and allow it to continue to be ignored.

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Not defending Westhead's salary at all.  He is vastly overpaid for what he delivers, and should be fired ASAP.  If you want to hire Runge back at something akin to his pay, I think that (or pretty much anyone else who cares) would be an upgrade.

I am also not defending Moos or anyone else in the AD office.  But it's a simple fact of work life that if you sue, or threaten to sue, your employer, no matter how justified you were or think you were, your marketability goes in the dumper.  Because your next employer has to wonder if you will sue them, too, and they generally won't want the risk.

Runge was paid competitively for what she delivered, and complaining about it in the way she did (and she did frame it the way I said she did), is what led to her breaking down relationships.
<blockquote dir="ltr" ><strong>Drakewing wrote:</strong> So explain Paul Westhead's salary!!!


Got that!!!


And comment on this as well!

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--- SeaDuck79 wrote:

What she wanted wasn't "pay equality".  What she wanted was to be paid the same as the coach of the Men's BB team.  Her request was completely disregarding of the fact that the Men's BB team was producing significant revenue for the U, and the women's team wasn't.

Ergo, the position of coach of the men's team is worth more than that of the women's team, not having anything to do with gender, but with the value of the program to the university.  Had she been the Pac-12 equivalent of Pat Summit, and had produced revenue from the women's program equivalent to that of the men's program, THEN she would have a strong case for being paid the same.  Had she been the head coach of a men's team, she would have a strong case for being paid the same.  Had she and EK switched positions, she would have been worth more than EK, because of the importance of the job, not the gender of the person holding it.

Got that?
<blockquote dir="ltr" ><strong>Drakewing wrote:</strong> Yeah nobody wants to hire someone who will fight for pay equality!

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--- charlestonduck wrote:

Runge was a great coach, but there were some issues . . . don't you think there is a reason she never got another coaching job?

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--- Drakewing wrote:

Heaven forbid a woman trying to get some semblance of equality from the AD!

Runge was a great coach! Big mistake letting her go!

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