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ROOT" N FOR BOLDIN !!!!

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Posted: 1/27/2013 8:48 PM

ROOT" N FOR BOLDIN !!!! 


I wanna see him get a Ring. The Cardinals should never have let him go. Warner was right that they should have gotten him signed, and reportedly Fitz was even willing to restructure his contract to help keep him here. Shame!

GO RAVENS!!!!
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Posted: 1/28/2013 5:23 PM

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Reddog7 wrote: I wanna see him get a Ring. The Cardinals should never have let him go. Warner was right that they should have gotten him signed, and reportedly Fitz was even willing to restructure his contract to help keep him here. Shame!

GO RAVENS!!!!
I would love for the Ravens to win too. But unfortunately, I don't think it's going to happen. As for Boldin, he wanted out. And if he thought he was underpaidohlord, good riddance. Yes I know the old, "I got's a family to feed".

Now we have Flacco demanding 20million a year. And Pollard saying the NFL will cease to exist in 30 years. They don't have a chance against frisco.

Out for now. I got's a family to feed.............rolleyes
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Posted: 1/28/2013 6:01 PM

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Idahocard wrote:


I would love for the Ravens to win too. But unfortunately, I don't think it's going to happen. As for Boldin, he wanted out. And if he thought he was underpaidohlord, good riddance. Yes I know the old, "I got's a family to feed".


Of course he wanted out, because of his contract relative to his level of play. That's the business. I was critical of the way he was going about things, but stopped short of saying let the guy walk. Critics of the guy can rationalize after the fact all they want but it was an obvious blunder to let a weapon like that go. Doucet was not the answer to let Boldin go as some of us here asserted at the time. Fitz' knew what the consequences could be losing Boldin which stands to reason why he tried to contribute to the situation. Kurt Warner and Deion Sanders both knew also and said it would be a mistake not to do so. Given the fallout that has surfaced after Whis being fired, there seems to be some sort of pattern emerging from Leinart-to Boldin-to Wells-and now to Dockett who says he would not have returned had Whis not been fired. Just say'n.
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Posted: 1/28/2013 7:22 PM

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Of course he wanted out, because of his contract relative to his level of play. That's the business. I was critical of the way he was going about things, but stopped short of saying let the guy walk. Critics of the guy can rationalize after the fact all they want but it was an obvious blunder to let a weapon like that go. Doucet was not the answer to let Boldin go as some of us here asserted at the time. Fitz' knew what the consequences could be losing Boldin which stands to reason why he tried to contribute to the situation. Kurt Warner and Deion Sanders both knew also and said it would be a mistake not to do so. Given the fallout that has surfaced after Whis being fired, there seems to be some sort of pattern emerging from Leinart-to Boldin-to Wells-and now to Dockett who says he would not have returned had Whis not been fired. Just say'n.
Whisenhunt is gone now. What is this fallout you are alluding to? I'm in the dark there, help me out.
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Posted: 1/28/2013 8:22 PM

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Idahocard wrote:
Reddog7 wrote:


 
Of course he wanted out, because of his contract relative to his level of play. That's the business. I was critical of the way he was going about things, but stopped short of saying let the guy walk. Critics of the guy can rationalize after the fact all they want but it was an obvious blunder to let a weapon like that go. Doucet was not the answer to let Boldin go as some of us here asserted at the time. Fitz' knew what the consequences could be losing Boldin which stands to reason why he tried to contribute to the situation. Kurt Warner and Deion Sanders both knew also and said it would be a mistake not to do so. Given the fallout that has surfaced after Whis being fired, there seems to be some sort of pattern emerging from Leinart-to Boldin-to Wells-and now to Dockett who says he would not have returned had Whis not been fired. Just say'n.
Whisenhunt is gone now. What is this fallout you are alluding to? I'm in the dark there, help me out.
Questions about how he handled the QB situation dating back to Leinart (was Matt really the problem or was it how he was handled......did Max Hall really deserve a shot over Leinart or was Leinart punished for speaking his mind). Boldins remark about how he had come to distrust Whisenhunt at the outbreak of his public contract dispute (was it Whisenhunt's call to convince Bidwill to let him go or was it Graves). Beanie Wells publicly questioning how he was being used (before the audition crap he spouted off) and saying publicly that he intends to sit down and have a heart to heart with the coach (did Whisenhunt consider this an afront to his authority because he's as stubborn as rumored and Beanie became even more marginalized (back to Leinart) ). Dockett quoted that had Whisenhunt come back as coach, he would not have returned to the Cards.

I don't know the answers to any of these, just saying there seems to suggest a pattern from all these things that have come up since Whis' was rumored to be let go and subsequently let go. And I just read somewhere this evening that Grimm would have been gone even if Whisenhunt were given one more year......the love affair there having come to an end anyway.
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Posted: 1/28/2013 9:49 PM

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Reddog7 wrote:
 Critics of the guy can rationalize after the fact all they want but it was an obvious blunder to let a weapon like that go. 
I think we did just find with the Boldin trade.  We got the draft picks that allowed us to trade for Kerry Rhodes who has been a bad *** IMO and has done very well for us.  Also we picked Andre Roberts who put up numbers on par with Fitz last season.  What good would it have done to have 2 receivers tying up $20-25 million with no one to throw them the ball ?  Oh yeah and he was injury-prone with a lot of mileage on those tires.

I love Boldin and I'm also rooting for the Ravens this weekend because of it (and because of the opponent).  He took time out to speak with my oldest son a few years ago at Flag trg. camp and that meant  a lot.  He like Wilson, DD will forever be spoken of highly as the Original Cardinals who were born and bred here.  I am glad he has another shot at a ring because he deserves it.  I'm also pleased with how our FO handled maximizing trade value for a player that was at his peak.  NE has done it for years.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 3:17 AM

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I'm torn between rooting for Boldin and rooting for a division opponent.  I love when that happens and I have to find out over the course of the game who I'm really rooting for, if anyone.  This is going to be especially fun in the Harbaugh Bowl, I think.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 6:31 AM

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REDMAN2000 wrote:
Reddog7 wrote:
 Critics of the guy can rationalize after the fact all they want but it was an obvious blunder to let a weapon like that go. 
I think we did just find with the Boldin trade.  We got the draft picks that allowed us to trade for Kerry Rhodes who has been a bad *** IMO and has done very well for us.  Also we picked Andre Roberts who put up numbers on par with Fitz last season.  What good would it have done to have 2 receivers tying up $20-25 million with no one to throw them the ball ?  Oh yeah and he was injury-prone with a lot of mileage on those tires.

I love Boldin and I'm also rooting for the Ravens this weekend because of it (and because of the opponent).  He took time out to speak with my oldest son a few years ago at Flag trg. camp and that meant  a lot.  He like Wilson, DD will forever be spoken of highly as the Original Cardinals who were born and bred here.  I am glad he has another shot at a ring because he deserves it.  I'm also pleased with how our FO handled maximizing trade value for a player that was at his peak.  NE has done it for years.
With all due respect to Rhodes, we might have done better using those draft picks for OL choices (in retrospect). The rationale that Andre Roberts put up numbers on par with Fitz given that Fitz's numbers are down due to having no QB is a poor one. And again a reminder, Fitz offered to restructure his contract to work things out with Boldin so the two high paid receivers hurting us may not have necessarily been an issue depending on what could have been worked out......which apparently was never even considered. The injury prone argument is a tired one. Boldin continues to prove his value as a WR. In fact I would even argue that his presence would have to some degree minimize the poor QB situation we've had. You talk about what Roberts has done, imagine if that were Boldin still opposite Fitz? Who do you think a defense would game plan around more, Robert's or Boldin? I mean c'mon man.

The Cardinals blew it with Boldin, pure and simple, and the suggested opinions that prevailed here that Boldin was expendable because of Doucet was dead wrong. No one is apparently willing to accept such an obvious truth so I won't continue to beat a dead horse. Meanwhile again here's to Boldin hopefully getting a ring, even if it is before Fitz gets one......if ever.
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Posted: 1/30/2013 8:36 PM

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Reddog7 wrote:
Idahocard wrote:




Given the fallout that has surfaced after Whis being fired, there seems to be some sort of pattern emerging from Leinart-to Boldin-to Wells-and now to Dockett who says he would not have returned had Whis not been fired. Just say'n.
What fallout? You are confusing me dog. After he was fired? Not knowing dude.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 9:31 PM

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Reddog7 wrote: 
With all due respect to Rhodes, we might have done better using those draft picks for OL choices (in retrospect).
Well, yeah but what makes you think we would have used those picks on O-line given the history with prior regime ?  We'd have another CB and small-school TE more than likely lol.

The rationale that Andre Roberts put up numbers on par with Fitz given that Fitz's numbers are down due to having no QB is a poor one.

Why is that a poor one ?  Did Roberts have a different QB throwing his way this year than Fitz ?  Roberts still has even more potential to hit and I think BA will get the most out of him.  The days of having (3) 1,000 yard receivers in a season will soon return amigo, just watch !

And again a reminder, Fitz offered to restructure his contract to work things out with Boldin so the two high paid receivers hurting us may not have necessarily been an issue depending on what could have been worked out......which apparently was never even considered.

Yeah right, would Fitz have been willing to give up the nearly $6 million/year it would have taken to keep Boldin ?  I seem to remember some of us on here being frustrated at Fitz's prior contract negotiation wanting a high salary.  Some even said let's keep Boldin and trade Larry away, he is wanting too much money.  The money Fitz was talking about was more in the neighborhood of I'll re-structure my deal and you can backload my deal so I can force another negotiation later.  Fitz has been quoted as stating your salary indicates respect in the league.  

The injury prone argument is a tired one. Boldin continues to prove his value as a WR.

He has this postseason.  In prior years, he still has been banged up and not exactly put up world-beater numbers.

In fact I would even argue that his presence would have to some degree minimize the poor QB situation we've had. You talk about what Roberts has done, imagine if that were Boldin still opposite Fitz? Who do you think a defense would game plan around more, Robert's or Boldin? I mean c'mon man.

I 100% disagree.  Boldin is a great player and has had a fantastic postseason this year.  Our backup QB's sucked last year plain and simple.  They weren't even close to hitting Fitz in stride.  Often teams would go one on one even with Fitz.  The opposing defenses would all out blitz as they knew the QB's didn't have accuracy and the line couldn't establish a rushing attack.  Boldin would not have addressed the poor play of the O-line, the awful play calling, or the QB injuries.  Roberts made the best out of a lousy situation.  You could have had Wes Welker, Fitz, and Brandon Marshall on this team last year and we'd have only won 1 or 2 more games ... even then maybe.

The Cardinals blew it with Boldin, pure and simple, and the suggested opinions that prevailed here that Boldin was expendable because of Doucet was dead wrong. No one is apparently willing to accept such an obvious truth so I won't continue to beat a dead horse. Meanwhile again here's to Boldin hopefully getting a ring, even if it is before Fitz gets one......if ever.

I think the Cards and Boldin won in this case.  Ravens were a great fit, and we got maximum value for a player whose best days were in the rearview mirror with a lot of hard mileage.  Doucet sucks no argument from me there.  I didn't like the pick when we made it a few years back.  If you recall my "way too" Early Doucet comment just after he was drafted.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 10:04 PM

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REDMAN2000 wrote:
Reddog7 wrote: 
With all due respect to Rhodes, we might have done better using those draft picks for OL choices (in retrospect).
Well, yeah but what makes you think we would have used those picks on O-line given the history with prior regime ?  We'd have another CB and small-school TE more than likely lol.
-That's a different argument.....tongue

The rationale that Andre Roberts put up numbers on par with Fitz given that Fitz's numbers are down due to having no QB is a poor one.

Why is that a poor one ?  Did Roberts have a different QB throwing his way this year than Fitz ?  
-No, same QB.....the problem is that those same QB's were not accurate enough to get the ball through the coverage on Fitz'. Thus his numbers down, Roberts going up.

Roberts still has even more potential to hit and I think BA will get the most out of him.  The days of having (3) 1,000 yard receivers in a season will soon return amigo, just watch !

-He was suppose to have been a star receiver two seasons ago. So I hope you're right but I'd wager Floyd is going to start overshadowing him. That's when I think we'll start legitimately comparing someone on par with Fitz.

And again a reminder, Fitz offered to restructure his contract to work things out with Boldin so the two high paid receivers hurting us may not have necessarily been an issue depending on what could have been worked out......which apparently was never even considered.

Yeah right, would Fitz have been willing to give up the nearly $6 million/year it would have taken to keep Boldin?

-Sadly we'll never know. I do know Larry has shown how sincere a team mate he is.
 

The injury prone argument is a tired one. Boldin continues to prove his value as a WR.

He has this postseason.  In prior years, he still has been banged up and not exactly put up world-beater numbers.

-You don't have to put up such numbers to be a difference maker. Boldin, even given his injury history, was a difference maker in our offense and that part is clearly missing, even separate from the QB issue.

In fact I would even argue that his presence would have to some degree minimize the poor QB situation we've had. You talk about what Roberts has done, imagine if that were Boldin still opposite Fitz? Who do you think a defense would game plan around more, Robert's or Boldin? I mean c'mon man.

I 100% disagree.  Boldin is a great player and has had a fantastic postseason this year.  Our backup QB's sucked last year plain and simple.  They weren't even close to hitting Fitz in stride.  Often teams would go one on one even with Fitz.  The opposing defenses would all out blitz as they knew the QB's didn't have accuracy and the line couldn't establish a rushing attack.  Boldin would not have addressed the poor play of the O-line, the awful play calling, or the QB injuries.  Roberts made the best out of a lousy situation.  You could have had Wes Welker, Fitz, and Brandon Marshall on this team last year and we'd have only won 1 or 2 more games ... even then maybe.

-This is a gross contradiction. You're disputing that Boldin would have offered some compensation on offense and then turning around and suggesting that Roberts did just that by claiming he made the best out of a lousy situations. Boldin could line up in the backfield to implement the Wildcat. Boldin could pass the ball being a former QB. Defenses would have had to deal with those options that they didn't have to deal with regarding Roberts, because Boldin wasn't just a wide receiver. He was a multiple threat to the benefit of the offense.

The Cardinals blew it with Boldin, pure and simple, and the suggested opinions that prevailed here that Boldin was expendable because of Doucet was dead wrong. No one is apparently willing to accept such an obvious truth so I won't continue to beat a dead horse. Meanwhile again here's to Boldin hopefully getting a ring, even if it is before Fitz gets one......if ever.

I think the Cards and Boldin won in this case.  Ravens were a great fit, and we got maximum value for a player whose best days were in the rearview mirror with a lot of hard mileage. 

-And now I 100% disagree. The Cardinals lost a major weapon that created a ripple effect all the way to our best player in Fitz. And now the Ravens are benefiting from that lost weapon. If Roberts can get the catches he managed to get, how much more do you think Boldin would have gotten.....not to mention Fitz' by his very presence!

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Posted: 2/3/2013 11:20 AM

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Agreed.  Michael Floyd will overshadow Roberts eventually because he is a great WR.  We fix the O-line and give our QB's time to throw, we could have Kolb be a 4,000 yard passer and have 3 WR's go for over 1,000 yards.  We have the most talent at WR in our division ... even without Boldin tongue
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Posted: 2/3/2013 6:51 PM

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I figured out who I was rooting for on the first play fromscrimmage.  Go Baltimore!
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Posted: 2/3/2013 8:47 PM

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Q' get's a ring........Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: 2/3/2013 8:54 PM

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Reddog7 wrote: Q' get's a ring........Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!

Better yet, frisco doesn't. Hahahahaha.  And hahahahah.
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Posted: 2/3/2013 9:20 PM

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Good things happen to great dudes, at least where Boldin is concerned.  Guy deserved that ring !
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Posted: 2/5/2013 11:24 AM

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Right on!!! I'm happy for him. We have been stuck with "CAN'T CATCH" Doucet!!!!

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Posted: 2/5/2013 12:35 PM

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stlcardinal wrote: Right on!!! I'm happy for him. We have been stuck with "CAN'T CATCH" Doucet!!!!

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I believe I was calling him Do **** at the end of last season and some people on here were still on his bandwagon. He has shown the Cards nothing since he arrived. There are more talented players than him waiting in the wings. Time for the Cards to part ways with this guy.
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Posted: 3/11/2013 5:23 PM

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Now a Niner...how bout that.
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Posted: 3/11/2013 6:45 PM

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runHENrun wrote: Now a Niner...how bout that.

He will be a whiner niner when all is said and done....book it.
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