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Posted: 1/24/2013 11:00 AM

Alex Smith 


Think Arizona will be interested?




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Posted: 1/24/2013 1:45 PM

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I doubt it. I think Arians prefers someone who can stretch the field more. More of a vertial passing threat.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 4:04 PM

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Target is Wilson.....
BE MORE CONCERNED WITH YOUR CHARACTER THAN YOUR REPUTATION. YOUR CHARACTER IS WHO YOU REALLY ARE, AND YOUR REPUTATION IS ONLY WHAT OTHERS THINK YOUR ARE.....
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Posted: 1/24/2013 5:50 PM

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joemontana wrote:

Think Arizona will be interested?

I like to think we would be but I suspect Brad may be right. In fact if I recall correctly, that's why Kapernick ultimately won out over Alex (the vertical threat).
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Posted: 1/24/2013 8:23 PM

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Reddog7 wrote:
I like to think we would be but I suspect Brad may be right. In fact if I recall correctly, that's why Kapernick ultimately won out over Alex (the vertical threat).

I wish you people would please put the Smith, Vick, McNabb, et.al rumors aside. Kevin Kolb is our guy. Until I hear otherwise, case closed.
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Posted: 1/25/2013 8:20 AM

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Right, exactly why Smith lost the job to Kaepernick.

I think Kolb could be the guy but ultimately Arians - with the help of Tom Moore - will make their evaluation of Kolb and then move in whatever direction the data tells them to.

I wouldn't be surprised either way. As a new head coach, I wouldn't exactly feel comfortable with part of my fate in the hands of Kolb. But Kolb might end up being the best option.

One scenario would be to keep Kolb and draft a QB. Overall, I don't see depth being a huge issue with this roster, so I'd use my first two picks on an offensive linemen, then trade up to the bottom of the second round and get my QB, if he is there.

I don't think they will bank on Kolb being the QB of the future.
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Posted: 1/25/2013 11:31 AM

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Idahocard wrote:
I wish you people would please put the Smith, Vick, McNabb, et.al rumors aside. Kevin Kolb is our guy. Until I hear otherwise, case closed.
Idaho' you should open up your mind a little bit. We've had Kolb for three seasons now and we're still regarded as a team needing a QB......this season being the most embarrassing one in that regard.
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Posted: 1/25/2013 11:35 AM

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BradWilbricht wrote: Right, exactly why Smith lost the job to Kaepernick.

I think Kolb could be the guy but ultimately Arians - with the help of Tom Moore - will make their evaluation of Kolb and then move in whatever direction the data tells them to.

I wouldn't be surprised either way. As a new head coach, I wouldn't exactly feel comfortable with part of my fate in the hands of Kolb. But Kolb might end up being the best option.

One scenario would be to keep Kolb and draft a QB. Overall, I don't see depth being a huge issue with this roster, so I'd use my first two picks on an offensive linemen, then trade up to the bottom of the second round and get my QB, if he is there.

I don't think they will bank on Kolb being the QB of the future.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if Arian fools us all and drafts an EJ Manuel as our first pick if he's there.......given his track record regarding QB's.
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Posted: 1/25/2013 1:40 PM

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You mean EJ Manuel with the seventh overall pick? I don't think he's even grading out as a first rounder at this point. I don't think any of the QBs in this class are true top 10 picks. But someone will probably emerge as one.
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Posted: 1/25/2013 3:31 PM

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Reddog7 wrote:

Idaho' you should open up your mind a little bit. We've had Kolb for three seasons now and we're still regarded as a team needing a QB......this season being the most embarrassing one in that regard.

What I'm infering dog is that we should not keep going after retreads. Kurt Warner had a Lombardi trophy on his resume. And it almost worked that he got another. Fix the line and come up with a comprehensive offensive game plan and, whala! It was dreadful what we witnessed this season among others resorting to trick plays to get a first down on third down and whatever because of the ineptitude of the play-calling.
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Posted: 1/25/2013 9:49 PM

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Alex Smith will not fit our new offensive system.  Can't throw the long ball, with BA hired it's dead in the water.
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Posted: 1/28/2013 12:33 PM

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Red,

You know as much as I do that the QB is not the main issue here, the OL has been.

I say fix the OL and a QB will emerge. That is what I believe Idaho is also saying.

Everyone is focused on the QB, I would rather focus on the root of the problem which is the OL. This OL was rated the worst in the NFL. How well do you think a decent QB would do with that rating? I would say maybe bottom 5 QB's in the league.

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Idahocard wrote:
I wish you people would please put the Smith, Vick, McNabb, et.al rumors aside. Kevin Kolb is our guy. Until I hear otherwise, case closed.
Idaho' you should open up your mind a little bit. We've had Kolb for three seasons now and we're still regarded as a team needing a QB......this season being the most embarrassing one in that regard.
The risk of failure is great, but the risk of not making the necessary changes to improve ones self will surely spell disaster!
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Posted: 1/28/2013 9:53 PM

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I'm really interested in seeing what this Offense can do with Kolb as starter and Hoyer backing him up with BA at the reins now.  Mike Miller along with Tony Sparano might be possibly the 2 worst Offensive coordinators to have ever coached in the NFL.  disbelief

It is the trough of OL players in the draft even FA.  This is like a god-send manna from heaven and we need to feast.  If we pick a QB at #7 I swear to God I think I'm gonna lose it.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 3:07 AM

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We've had Kolb for two injury shortened seasons.  I can still picture the play he was injured on this past season.  Perhaps he should have thrown the ball away and LIVED to play another day.  Perhaps THAT'S what another QB would done.  I, personally, can't fault someone's competitiveness.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 6:48 AM

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Cowboy0113 wrote:

Red,

You know as much as I do that the QB is not the main issue here, the OL has been.

I say fix the OL and a QB will emerge. That is what I believe Idaho is also saying.

Everyone is focused on the QB, I would rather focus on the root of the problem which is the OL. This OL was rated the worst in the NFL. How well do you think a decent QB would do with that rating? I would say maybe bottom 5 QB's in the league.

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Idahocard wrote:
I wish you people would please put the Smith, Vick, McNabb, et.al rumors aside. Kevin Kolb is our guy. Until I hear otherwise, case closed.
Idaho' you should open up your mind a little bit. We've had Kolb for three seasons now and we're still regarded as a team needing a QB......this season being the most embarrassing one in that regard.
Cowboy I'm not so sure man, though for sure the OL is a huge issue. I guess I'm being open to the possibility that coaching may be the biggest issue with the OL though I wouldn't swear to it. How they've played may be as big an issue as who's playing. Just a thought. I do know though that when football analyst talk about the Cards needs the prevailing conversation is about the QB situation more so the the OL, and the team is being watched closely along these lines by outside observers.

But for the sake of discussion, lets go with the theory that fixing the OL will solve the problem regardless of the QB situation (generally speaking so as not to suggest QB isn't important). With this argument, why then the opposition to Alex Smith, given Kolb's questionable durability? If fixing the OL is the prevailing answer to the point that all you would then need is a "decent" QB, why not pursue Alex as your QB "now" given his recent success and then use all or most of our picks in the upcoming draft for the OL, and maybe an RB in the later rounds?
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Posted: 1/29/2013 7:01 AM

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......by the way, for anyone opposed to the prospect of Alex being a Cardinal, I wouldn't be too concerned about it happening. He'll probably end up with someone like the Jets or Kansas City. We on the other hand will probably end up with somebody like Tebow (assuming the free agent route happens).
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Posted: 1/29/2013 8:58 AM

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I think Smith would be a logical choice for the Jets. Seems like they prefer a game manager and Sanchez just makes too many mistakes. I wouldn't rule out Sanchez having success in the future, though. The Jets are a mess and a change of scenery would really help Sanchez, in my opinion.

I'll be interested to see how the pre-draft / combine workouts go for the QBs. I didn't particularly care for any of the QBs at the Senior Bowl - did not see any that stuck out to me (especially Glennon did not and he's been hyped a bit). Looking more like a QB will have to be brought in via free agency, if the Cards decide they need new blood at the position.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 11:17 AM

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BradWilbricht wrote: I think Smith would be a logical choice for the Jets.

 Looking more like a QB will have to be brought in via free agency, if the Cards decide they need new blood at the position.
Every time I hear his name brought up (in the media) the first team I hear mentioned has been the Cardinals, except for once when it was the Jets, then Buffalo, then us. This morning during an interview Alex said he had two years left on his contract. Rich Eisen and panel, while discussing possibilities again first mentioned Cardinals among other teams, remarking that the 9ers will likely try to get a lot for him but said it's unlikely they would deal him to a division rival.

This is gonna be a real interesting offseason.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 12:07 PM

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Red,

Do not have any problems with Alex Smith, never have, especially based on the assumption the OL is the problem.

I think Alex would have just as much an issue with the current OL as Kolb.

Heard on the Doug and Woolf show that they are still talking about the two tackles the 49ers drafted in the first round and how it has solidified there OL for years to come. Just look how well Alex Smith played they were saying how smart they were to do what they did and now it is paying dividends.
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Cowboy0113 wrote:

Red,

You know as much as I do that the QB is not the main issue here, the OL has been.

I say fix the OL and a QB will emerge. That is what I believe Idaho is also saying.

Everyone is focused on the QB, I would rather focus on the root of the problem which is the OL. This OL was rated the worst in the NFL. How well do you think a decent QB would do with that rating? I would say maybe bottom 5 QB's in the league.

Reddog7 wrote:

Idahocard wrote:
I wish you people would please put the Smith, Vick, McNabb, et.al rumors aside. Kevin Kolb is our guy. Until I hear otherwise, case closed.
Idaho' you should open up your mind a little bit. We've had Kolb for three seasons now and we're still regarded as a team needing a QB......this season being the most embarrassing one in that regard.
Cowboy I'm not so sure man, though for sure the OL is a huge issue. I guess I'm being open to the possibility that coaching may be the biggest issue with the OL though I wouldn't swear to it. How they've played may be as big an issue as who's playing. Just a thought. I do know though that when football analyst talk about the Cards needs the prevailing conversation is about the QB situation more so the the OL, and the team is being watched closely along these lines by outside observers.

But for the sake of discussion, lets go with the theory that fixing the OL will solve the problem regardless of the QB situation (generally speaking so as not to suggest QB isn't important). With this argument, why then the opposition to Alex Smith, given Kolb's questionable durability? If fixing the OL is the prevailing answer to the point that all you would then need is a "decent" QB, why not pursue Alex as your QB "now" given his recent success and then use all or most of our picks in the upcoming draft for the OL, and maybe an RB in the later rounds?
The risk of failure is great, but the risk of not making the necessary changes to improve ones self will surely spell disaster!

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Posted: 1/29/2013 12:23 PM

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Cowboy0113 wrote: Red,

Do not have any problems with Alex Smith, never have, especially based on the assumption the OL is the problem.

(Right, I know you don't Cowboy)

I think Alex would have just as much an issue with the current OL as Kolb.

-Agree......most likely)

Heard on the Doug and Woolf show that they are still talking about the two tackles the 49ers drafted in the first round and how it has solidified there OL for years to come. Just look how well Alex Smith played they were saying how smart they were to do what they did and now it is paying dividends.

-Good point, and as I shared earlier I remember some people laughing at the 9ers over that draft year. I think barring some Russel Wilson luck via the draft, our best bet is to get a proven vet via trade/FA and put together an OL for him. I think our best options would be Smith or Vick under this scenario. JMO.
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