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OK... YOUR NOW IN CHARGE

Posted: 12/31/2012 2:20 PM

OK... YOUR NOW IN CHARGE 


Your in charge of this team....what will you do to right the ship? You're all expertsbiggrin
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Posted: 12/31/2012 3:35 PM

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I'm no expert but I would start by drafting OL first three picks. Guys with attitude. #four if he is still there D J Harper. We wiffed on Peterson and Martin. Harper was actually rated ahead of Martin a couple years ago. Pearcy is another Boise State guy to look at. He's kind of a hybrid DE/LB. #6 and 7 BPA. If we get candy bars for Skelton, Lindley and Wells, so be it. Hoyer looked sharp yesterday. Definately a keeper. Restructure Kolbs contract, he'll understand, pick-up a FA Qb. Make sure the scouts are competent and paid accordingly. And make damn sure the players are happy, by instilling a winning attitude and abiding by it. All I can think of right now. As Cowboy can attest, I am tired of hiring a plaster mason every Monday morning during the season....mad
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Posted: 12/31/2012 3:56 PM

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Idaho,


That I sure can! I was happy to see Hoyer have success, he seems to be able command the field and make good decisions in his short time with the Cards. I feel he is a keeper. I think the bad decision that I saw was the interception. He certainly played much better than the other two Skelton and Lindley. On sports talk here in Phoenix they brought up how desperate Whiz became when he decided to start playing Lindley in place of Skelton, they believe that was one the most irrationale decisions they have seen a head coach make. It also showed that Whiz was not coaching as a professional but rather making decisions off the cuff due to desperation. They also said he had lost the respect of many players in the locker room.

I think they should go after 2 very good Olinemen, a CB/LB/Safety, and a RB. Get the rest from FA and this team will improve its record. Stick with Kolb, Hoyer and a FA signing at QB.

Hire Norv Turner Offensive Coordinator, Horton Head Coach/DC Coordinator, and get a new Oline coach.  Not sure who to pick for Head Coach/DC Coordinator assuming Horton gets to be head coach. Lovie Smith?

The risk of failure is great, but the risk of not making the necessary changes to improve ones self will surely spell disaster!
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Posted: 12/31/2012 5:01 PM

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Idaho,


That I sure can! I was happy to see Hoyer have success, he seems to be able command the field and make good decisions in his short time with the Cards. I feel he is a keeper. I think the bad decision that I saw was the interception. He certainly played much better than the other two Skelton and Lindley. On sports talk here in Phoenix they brought up how desperate Whiz became when he decided to start playing Lindley in place of Skelton, they believe that was one the most irrationale decisions they have seen a head coach make. It also showed that Whiz was not coaching as a professional but rather making decisions off the cuff due to desperation. They also said he had lost the respect of many players in the locker room.

The Dockett decision was the jumping the shark moment.  It was the ultimate offensive thing to do to a guy that has been with the Cards through the darkest moments.  The amount was ludicrous.  Hint to the next coach, you don't have the respect of Dockett - you don't have most of the team's either.


I think they should go after 2 very good Olinemen, a CB/LB/Safety, and a RB. Get the rest from FA and this team will improve its record. Stick with Kolb, Hoyer and a FA signing at QB.

They need a replacement from Lenon and need an upgrade over Gay which we may have in Toler (if it weren't for injuries guy would have had a big yr.).  Another OLB would be nice to have but may have to be out on hold til the O-line situation works out.

Hire Norv Turner Offensive Coordinator, Horton Head Coach/DC Coordinator, and get a new Oline coach.  Not sure who to pick for Head Coach/DC Coordinator assuming Horton gets to be head coach. Lovie Smith?

Norv would be great here.  I don't think Horton is completely ready, but don't want to lose him to another team either.  Lovie wouldn't be a good fit unless you want the 4-3 system back.  Some team will more than likely offer Horton the HC job, so Michael has a huge decision to make there.

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Posted: 12/31/2012 5:14 PM

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Ray Horton- HC
Louie Cioffi- DC
Norv Turner-OC
Steve Kiem- GM

Ray Horton let's Turner run the offense and coach the quarterbacks. And Cioffi keeps the defensive continuity. We get a different look at the draft than in the past 6 years with Whiz and Graves. TOTALLY different look to the team now. It was time!biggrin
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Posted: 12/31/2012 5:22 PM

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Total agreement.  You come in w/ Kolb and Hoyer and draft OL/OL/OL/RB
Idahocard wrote: I'm no expert but I would start by drafting OL first three picks. Guys with attitude. #four if he is still there D J Harper. We wiffed on Peterson and Martin. Harper was actually rated ahead of Martin a couple years ago. Pearcy is another Boise State guy to look at. He's kind of a hybrid DE/LB. #6 and 7 BPA. If we get candy bars for Skelton, Lindley and Wells, so be it. Hoyer looked sharp yesterday. Definately a keeper. Restructure Kolbs contract, he'll understand, pick-up a FA Qb. Make sure the scouts are competent and paid accordingly. And make damn sure the players are happy, by instilling a winning attitude and abiding by it. All I can think of right now. As Cowboy can attest, I am tired of hiring a plaster mason every Monday morning during the season....mad
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Posted: 12/31/2012 6:03 PM

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Well, in all modesty I hate always being right when everyone else continues to be wrong.....tongue......but here's what needs to get done. a) Hire Reid as HC. b) Bring in Norv as the new OC. c) Keep Horton. d) Hire Warner as the new QB coach. And also I say hire Denny as GM.


With this alignment, we will 1) find the QB we need now (beit Kolb, FA, or draft) 2)Build a better OL 4) return to the explosive offense we once had and 5) See our defense continue to improve.

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Posted: 12/31/2012 6:22 PM

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Dude you are living on another planet.
Reddog7 wrote: Well, in all modesty I hate always being right when everyone else continues to be wrong.....tongue......but here's what needs to get done. a) Hire Reid as HC. b) Bring in Norv as the new OC. c) Keep Horton. d) Hire Warner as the new QB coach. And also I say hire Denny as GM.


With this alignment, we will 1) find the QB we need now (beit Kolb, FA, or draft) 2)Build a better OL 4) return to the explosive offense we once had and 5) See our defense continue to improve.
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Posted: 12/31/2012 7:34 PM

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Lure Warner out of retirement.  wink
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Posted: 12/31/2012 9:30 PM

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Horton is gone if he doesn't get the head coaching job! Some other team will lure him away from us, for sure! Don't know if Reed and Turner can co-exist as play callers and OC's. Kurt isn't coming back in any capacity and Denny won't be coming back to the Cards, either. (remember, he was fired.)

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Posted: 12/31/2012 10:43 PM

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Maybe we could pry Rob Ryan away from the Cowboys? ;-)
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Posted: 1/1/2013 3:37 AM

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Reddog,

What happened to number 3? Getting a little ahead of yourself I'd say. tongue
Reddog7 wrote: Well, in all modesty I hate always being right when everyone else continues to be wrong.....tongue......but here's what needs to get done. a) Hire Reid as HC. b) Bring in Norv as the new OC. c) Keep Horton. d) Hire Warner as the new QB coach. And also I say hire Denny as GM.


With this alignment, we will 1) find the QB we need now (beit Kolb, FA, or draft) 2)Build a better OL 4) return to the explosive offense we once had and 5) See our defense continue to improve.
The risk of failure is great, but the risk of not making the necessary changes to improve ones self will surely spell disaster!
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Posted: 1/1/2013 8:43 AM

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Hire Heckert as GM...Hopefully he hires OBrien as coach.

Trade Fitz to Miami for a 1, 2 and a 2 in 2014

Draft LB Manti Te'o with the first pick
Draft OT Jake Mathews with the second first rnd pick

Draft QB Tyler Wilson in second round
Draft OT/G Dallas Thomas in second rnd

Dump Bradley, Lenon, Snyder,

FA signings.......OT Albert, DB Byrd, WR Hartline

D becomes even more dominating...O becomes stronger with OL talent

This isnt a one year process
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Posted: 1/1/2013 11:18 AM

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frankinphoenix wrote: Dude you are living on another planet.
Reddog7 wrote: Well, in all modesty I hate always being right when everyone else continues to be wrong.....tongue......but here's what needs to get done. a) Hire Reid as HC. b) Bring in Norv as the new OC. c) Keep Horton. d) Hire Warner as the new QB coach. And also I say hire Denny as GM.


With this alignment, we will 1) find the QB we need now (beit Kolb, FA, or draft) 2)Build a better OL 4) return to the explosive offense we once had and 5) See our defense continue to improve.
I think you've got me confused with Wellfed......tongue
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Posted: 1/1/2013 11:18 AM

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duecer54 wrote: Horton is gone if he doesn't get the head coaching job! Some other team will lure him away from us, for sure! Don't know if Reed and Turner can co-exist as play callers and OC's. Kurt isn't coming back in any capacity and Denny won't be coming back to the Cards, either. (remember, he was fired.)
So what are you trying to say?......tongue
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Posted: 1/1/2013 12:15 PM

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He quoted YOU, Reddog.  This needn't be hard.  confused
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Posted: 1/2/2013 1:15 PM

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Not sure who I'd prefer as GM, but I probably would not hire someone from within. But who knows, maybe Kiem is brilliant just wasn’t utilized properly with Graves and Whiz calling the shots.

As for coach, I’ve liked David Shaw from Stanford for a while now. But at this point he seems content in the college game and could more than likely hold out for a better spot in the NFL - if he so desires down the line.

Pickup a veteran QB in free agency (an obvious name like Alex Smith) someone who you know exactly what you're getting - even if it's a game manager with limited upside. No more projects or “could be’s” at QB.

Must pickup two offensive linemen with the first two picks in the draft. Trade up, trade down, whatever, just get two o-linemen (at least one tackle) - preferably who can be immediate starters or become starters during their rookie seasons. It looks like there should be guys available with that kind of potential.

I think it's a must to pick up a running back, too. Beanie probably gone, and even if he somehow came back he can't be depended on for much. Ryan Williams has potential, which is great, but again can't be depended on and his injury history suggests he'll never be an every down back either way. Not sure about exact targets at this point - but a powerful runner like Chris Ivory would be awfully nice. As it's been said many times before, RBs can be found if you look hard enough (see Alfred Morris in Washington). Either sign a free agent, make a trade or find a "diamond in the rough" but don't invest another high draft pick on one.

Finally, bringing in a wide receiver that can stretch the field is another must. Fitz has never been a wideout who can truly stretch the field with his speed. Floyd is not that guy either, nor is Roberts. Bring in a speedster ala T.Y. Hilton in Indianapolis – again those guys can be found, with effort.

And if you're cleaning house, cut the guys who can't contribute - Bradley, the offensive linemen who stink, etc. Don't care what their contracts are or how much/little cap room it would save. This is the time to change, so take advantage of it from top to bottom.

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Posted: 1/2/2013 5:02 PM

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Amen, Brad. Like the way you're thinking too, Luz.

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Posted: 1/2/2013 6:21 PM

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Wellfed wrote: He quoted YOU, Reddog.  This needn't be hard.  confused
right......the quoting is accurate, it was the characterization of it that was confusing tongue
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Posted: 1/2/2013 8:26 PM

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Nobody likes the way I think, but my momma says I've got a g-g-g-good brain.
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