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Plenty of Defensive Tackles Available

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Posted: 2/13/2013 7:21 PM

Plenty of Defensive Tackles Available 


A defensive scheme change and the possibility of losing six-year starting defensive tackle Sedrick Ellis to free agency make it a high probability the New Orleans Saints will be searching throughout this offseason for at least one new defensive tackle.

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Posted: 2/13/2013 7:35 PM

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I still Maintain that the Saints are in a good position at the 15th spot.  You will see several teams that will go for a QB in Geno Smith, Barkley and Tyler Wilson.  You will also see some teams that will be looking to move up and at #15 there are so many talented defensive players available and especially Defensive tackle that the Saints should:

Take the #15 pick and be looking to move down.  They can probably take any number of 12-15 players that will be between Picks 12-32 that will have a first round grade.  The Saints are without a second round pick.  So they only have 2 picks in the first 3 rounds.  They need more picks.

They could say take the #15 pick and move down to the #25 pick and pick up an extra 2rd round without giving up to much in the process.  The Saints need a DT, CB and S.  So the grades between the 3rd DT on the board and the 7th is really high.  So if you are picking and the 3rd DT is still on the board then you know that the 7th will still be there when you pick.

Moving down would then give you something like the #25, 57 and 79.  Three players in the top 79 players and right now we need bodies and we need bodies on the cheap that are going to be free of salary concerns for the next 4 years.

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Last edited 2/13/2013 7:49 PM by tigerterrace

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Posted: 2/13/2013 7:44 PM

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According to the draft chart, the number 15 pick has a value of 1050.  A move to 24 would have a value of 740 which would be a -310 in value.

So the Saints could pick up the teams second round pick which is 340.

So it is likely the Saints would have to send the #15 and then a 5th or 6th round pick

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the #24 and a second round pick.

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Moving down to 25th would be an even swap.  If you can pull it off.

#15 for the #25th and 57th.

That would give the Saints 25th, 57th, 79th.  Instead of the 15th and 79th.

Saint Tiger

Last edited 2/13/2013 7:47 PM by tigerterrace

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Posted: 2/13/2013 11:11 PM

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I would like to see this, but the saints always seem to be the one moving up and losing an extra pick or two.
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Posted: 2/14/2013 6:36 AM

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Man with so many players available I would think we would have to try it if nothing else maybe you pick up an extra #2 next year.

I know it isn't ideal but the Saints are going to have their choice of about 10-12 quality picks at #15 so some are still going to be there at #25 probably at least 4-5.

What really sucks is that our conference mates are all right above us and could work a trade first if someone is really feeling jumpy.  But moving up inside the top 15 might cost too much.

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Posted: 2/14/2013 8:42 AM

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tigerterrace wrote:

I still Maintain that the Saints are in a good position at the 15th spot. 


No doubt.
Here are some recent players drafted at the #15 spot.
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2012 - Bruce Irvin -8 sacks, all rookie team

2011 - Mike Pouncey - starter, all rookie team

2010 - Jason Pierre-Paul - Pro Bowler, dominant defensive player

2009 - Brian Cushing - All Pro, Defensive Rookie of the Year, Pro Bowler

2008 - Brandon Albert - starting left tackle

2007 - Lawrence Timmons - starting LB on a good Steelers defense

2006 - Tye Hill -all rookie team, injury, pretty much a bust since then

2005 - Derrick Johnson - All Pro, 2x Pro Bowler

2004 - Micheal Clayton - 80 receptions, 1193yds, 7 tds as a rookie. Injured, pretty much a bust since.

2003 - Jerome McDougle - injured, shot in stomach, bust

2002 - Albert Haynesworth - terrible human being, great player. 2x All Pro, 2x Pro Bowler

2001 - Rod Gardner - bounced around to 4 teams in 5 yrs. Not worth his draft status. bust

2000 - Deltha O'neal - 2x All Pro, 2x Pro Bowler
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Posted: 2/14/2013 10:13 AM

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I meant in terms of trading down.  There are some star players available in this years draft and most teams are not going to go wrong in taking their first round pick.

The Saints need help at several key spots so taking a DT, OLB, S or even a CB if the right one fell.

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Posted: 2/14/2013 3:58 PM

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I'd like to see the Saints make a smart move in the 1st round to either drop back a few notches and pick up a 2nd round pick...unless...someone they really have their minds set on getting is there and might not be there with a risk of dropping back...I see us really putting alot of energy in picking defensive players in this draft...devote the whole draft to defense...

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Posted: 2/14/2013 5:02 PM

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To be honest there is not one offense player I could see us taking unless a Top 5 Left Tackle that could start dropped down the board and was sitting there at #15.

As much as I am saying defense, defense, defense I think I would have to draft my future and try to work the defense through free agency.

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Posted: 2/14/2013 5:21 PM

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Don't be surprise to see Saints pick up an offensive tackle or receiver for their 15th pick.You know Sean Payton love picking offensive players instead of defensive players in the upper part of draft....yes indeed.....biggrin

Last edited 2/14/2013 5:28 PM by LSUFAN44

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Posted: 2/14/2013 5:22 PM

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battleredtexan wrote:
tigerterrace wrote:

I still Maintain that the Saints are in a good position at the 15th spot. 


No doubt.
Here are some recent players drafted at the #15 spot.
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2012 - Bruce Irvin -8 sacks, all rookie team

2011 - Mike Pouncey - starter, all rookie team

2010 - Jason Pierre-Paul - Pro Bowler, dominant defensive player

2009 - Brian Cushing - All Pro, Defensive Rookie of the Year, Pro Bowler

2008 - Brandon Albert - starting left tackle

2007 - Lawrence Timmons - starting LB on a good Steelers defense

2006 - Tye Hill -all rookie team, injury, pretty much a bust since then

2005 - Derrick Johnson - All Pro, 2x Pro Bowler

2004 - Micheal Clayton - 80 receptions, 1193yds, 7 tds as a rookie. Injured, pretty much a bust since.

2003 - Jerome McDougle - injured, shot in stomach, bust

2002 - Albert Haynesworth - terrible human being, great player. 2x All Pro, 2x Pro Bowler

2001 - Rod Gardner - bounced around to 4 teams in 5 yrs. Not worth his draft status. bust

2000 - Deltha O'neal - 2x All Pro, 2x Pro Bowler

Good post battle.....biggrin
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Posted: 2/14/2013 6:41 PM

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Take the #15 pick and be looking to move down.  They can probably take any number of 12-15 players that will be between Picks 12-32 that will have a first round grade.  The Saints are without a second round pick.  So they only have 2 picks in the first 3 rounds.  They need more picks. "

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I'd love for the Saints to move down and get an 2nd or another 3rd round pick....yes indeed.biggrin

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Posted: 2/14/2013 6:46 PM

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MarcusDowdellPartDeux wrote: I would like to see this, but the saints always seem to be the one moving up and losing an extra pick or two.

Agreed....biggrin

....and the Saints is known to pick offensive players instead of defensive players in the first few rounds.....yes indeed....
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