It sems simple to me...Cam is a player who has Picked the right moves...but we picked him. Now he has tasted almost superior victor status, until he got a team he neither knew up close, nor understood he would be under the NFLmicroscope. Rivera and Co. let the cat out of the bag in 2011..far sooner than maybe we shoud have...he tasted dirt and grass before he got fleet-footed, and then his numbers changed. That early rise to stardom comes at a price...they know what gets to him ie being smacked down...and they delivered. I almost...ALMOST...think that had we let Anderson quide us through 2011 like we let Peete do pre-Jake's call in vs. Jacksonville, we might have seen a different 2012. IMHO

If you cant run the ball the QB is gonna have ahard time.

Fool the opponnts one season, shame on them.Try to fool the opponents twice and Cam will tell what that gets you.

The sophmore slump.  It's real, I guess.  Teams won't be fooled again.  They know if they stack the box and shut us down up front we become one dimensional.  Cam isn't the type of quarterback (yet) that can beat you throwing the ball 30+ times a game.  He may get there, but he's not there yet.

gmonet wrote: It sems simple to me...Cam is a player who has Picked the right moves...but we picked him. Now he has tasted almost superior victor status, until he got a team he neither knew up close, nor understood he would be under the NFLmicroscope. Rivera and Co. let the cat out of the bag in 2011..far sooner than maybe we shoud have...he tasted dirt and grass before he got fleet-footed, and then his numbers changed. That early rise to stardom comes at a price...they know what gets to him ie being smacked down...and they delivered. I almost...ALMOST...think that had we let Anderson quide us through 2011 like we let Peete do pre-Jake's call in vs. Jacksonville, we might have seen a different 2012. IMHO

2012 would have been different...but then 2013 would ultimately look like this year(current 2012).

Certainly possible Talon...I just think it has to be rough to be a rookie, with whole new rule book and play book, new coaches and teammates, and new expectations as a starter almost from day one. While to pundits were hinting that Cam cmight concur the sophmore slump...they were fooled as well.

My great prophecys concerning Cam are being fulfilled .......Supadooperdooperman !   Tell the narcisstic MOFO to concentrate on winning games instead of preening in front of a fkng mirror for crying out loud ....

I was watching Cam in the Seahawks game and I noticed he wasn't checking down to other receivers.  He seemed to be either forcing it to Smitty or holding the ball too long before throwing.  Greg Olsen and other WRs were open on several occasions but Cam didn't throw to him.  Then if he held the ball past 3 or 4 seconds then he had a hard time consistently getting away from the Seahawks fast DL.  Even the commentators on Fox said he wasn't looking for Olsen when he was wide open.  He did finally hit Olsen a couple times late in the game. 
Another thing Cam needs to get back to doing is basic fundamentals of throwing the ball.  That is why he had so many balls that were off target, either high, too low or way off.  The TV guys even said he didn't appear to be setting his feet and following through. 
The last thing I noticed is that Cam didn't have fun playing the game.  I don't think I saw Cam smile the whole game.  Last year almost every game while he was playing he seemed to be having fun playing (except after the losses).  If Cam gets back to having fun and focusing on fundamentals and hitting the open WRs (check downs) every play then I think the Panthers will do well.

I agree with Rivera that he's pressing and trying too hard to make things happen rather than taking what the defense gives him.

Nothing is wrong with Cam Newton...NFL defenses have caught up with him.

Newton has got to move to the next level as an NFL QB...and starts with maturity...

crushers15 wrote: If you cant run the ball the QB is gonna have ahard time.

Sometimes, but look at last year. Last year we really couldn't run the ball well either, and Cam still threw it all over the place. That was due to a Lockout and teams didn't know what kind of Qb Cam was until now. Cam has to adapt to NFL defenses, Chud gets way too cute with the Playcalling. Simplify the offense again, that is what the Panthers did his rookie season, it was simple Xs and Os let the guy throw some balls in there. So what if he gets Interceptions, I saw him throw the ball around way more often and have sheer confidence on his face when he walked up to the Center his rookie season. We need to get Cam's confidence back, the run just isn't working folks and when it isn't working I know you tend to become one dimensional and that is bad but you just gotta throw the damn ball. Give him some screens easy one reads, a hot route and a second look and a dump off route on every play. Give him a chance to complete a pass on every down, I'm not seeing that sometimes. Instead I'm seeing Williams or Stewart stay in the block rather than run out a short route to the flats for an easy completion let them do the dirty work. It helps when your RB can catch though, I see little to no screen passes implemented in our Offense. We need to get Steve Smith the ball as many times as we can, so what if we have to line him up into the slot to give Steve more room to work over the middle and with the short passes we'll take it. Speed the tempo up no huddle go crazy with it, first play of the game line up in 5 wide stretch the Defense out first. THEN run the football.

bartman42 wrote: Nothing is wrong with Cam Newton...NFL defenses have caught up with him.

Newton has got to move to the next level as an NFL QB...and starts with maturity...

You about the only Panty fan that sees this .....others just make excuses for him ...

Sure Cam has areas that he needs to improve in. And yes, he has been pressing, trying to make plays. But his biggest issue this season has been the Oline.

Look at his worst games this season. What do they have in common? People were getting to Cam untouched. Jordan Gross watched guys run by and the rookie guard was getting pushed straight back into Cam.

Last season, Cam had time to go through his reads, which he is still learning to do. This season, he doesn't have time to get off the first read before he has to let it go or run. This line is not turning out to be anything close to what we all expected. And our best piece is on the IR now.

We are seeming to agree on the general concept that Cam is not why we are 1-6 at this point...just checking to see if you read the details. I assume that Newton will be here a long time, and has the talent to make sense of all this. The road will also be longer than the 2-3 seasons post rookie year, but assuming he is not an expendable, we'll be back in 2014.

bigbirdy wrote:

You about the only Panty fan that sees this .....others just make excuses for him ...

I am not. He woke up last Sunday with a hang-nail on his throwing hand, that's why he didn't throw well.

gmonet wrote: We are seeming to agree on the general concept that Cam is not why we are 1-6 at this point...just checking to see if you read the details. I assume that Newton will be here a long time, and has the talent to make sense of all this. The road will also be longer than the 2-3 seasons post rookie year, but assuming he is not an expendable, we'll be back in 2014.

1 & 4 actually friend

Cam is part of the reason. His dismal performance last week was pathetic. He missed open throws, open receivers, held the ball far too long, is trying to force big plays down field, had the fumble against the Falcons, etc.

However, this remains a team sport. Missed tackles, poor blocking by the Big Uglies, poor play calling by Chud, fumbles, etc.

Still, I think we're capable of making a run, but without Kalil the task is even harder. We need to do two things, IMO, play with more intensity and more discipline and none of that falls on Hurney's shoulders.

I hope Cam and the rest of the team are able to get away and get some rest and refocus on the task at hand.

bigbirdy wrote: My great prophecys concerning Cam are being fulfilled .......Supadooperdooperman !   Tell the narcisstic MOFO to concentrate on winning games instead of preening in front of a fkng mirror for crying out loud ....

Kepickle, for the love of God, please ban this douche!  Please

kepickle wrote:

gmonet wrote: We are seeming to agree on the general concept that Cam is not why we are 1-6 at this point...just checking to see if you read the details. I assume that Newton will be here a long time, and has the talent to make sense of all this. The road will also be longer than the 2-3 seasons post rookie year, but assuming he is not an expendable, we'll be back in 2014.

1 & 4 actually friend

..and this shows you DIDN'T read my whole statement kepickle...after the 1-6 I said I purposely mis-stated the numbers to "see if you r-e-a-d-the details!"