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Panthers at Saints

Posted: 11/4/2009 6:52 PM

Panthers at Saints 


From ESPN:

 

Carolina finally played well last week and they will need to not only run the ball very well, but also force multiple Drew Brees interceptions. If the Panthers RBs average over 6 yards per carry and intercept Drew Brees 2 or more times the Panthers have a 50 percent chance of winning. However, if the Panthers run for under 125 yards they have just an 8 percent chance of beating the Saints. Drew Brees has a simulation passer rating of over 105 and the running game is averaging over 130 yards rushing.

 

THIS WEEK'S LINE
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New Orleans 13.0 Carolina 52.0
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Posted: 11/4/2009 6:57 PM

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Found an interesting simulation site.  You put conditions that might happen and it predicts the outcome of the game based on if these conditions are all met.  If all these conditions are met, it predicts the Panthers win 41- 27.  Hey, it could happen! biggrin

 

Jake Delhomme: 150 passing yards or less, 1 or fewer interceptions

DeAngelo Williams: 99 or more rushing yards, 1 or more rushing TD

Jonathan Stewart: 75 or more rushing yards, 1 or more rushing TD

Carolina defense: 3 or more sacks, 3 or more turnovers forced

 

Drew Brees: 299 or more passing yards, 2 or more passing TDs, 2 or more interceptions

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Posted: 11/4/2009 7:24 PM

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With these conditions (these are actually wholly possible) the Panthers win 33-32:

 

Delhomme throws 2 or more interceptions

Williams runs for 100 or more yards and gets 1 or more TDs

Stewart runs for 50 or more yards and gets 1 or more TDs

CAR defense gets 2 or more sacks and 2 or more turnovers

 

This is fun

Last edited 11/4/2009 7:24 PM by JawnyBlaze

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Posted: 11/4/2009 7:43 PM

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http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-...0d0/Buy-or-Sell

 

Jason LaCanfora of NFL.com picks the Panthers to upset the Saints!

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Posted: 11/4/2009 7:46 PM

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Look at this, more people picking the Panthers to upset...I'm not saying we do it, but IF we do, this could be what turns this season around.  I believe this game defines the rest of the season for us.  We go into New Orleans and upset the #1 team in the country, we might have a shot at a wildcard.  We go in and play them tough, but lose, we could easily have a 8-8ish record.  We go in and get destroyed, hello 4-12 or 5-11 record.

 

 

Carolina at New Orleans

Matchup Jason La Canfora's storyline Did you know?
Series leader: Panthers, 16-12.
Streaks: Carolina has won six of the past seven meetings.
Playbook picks:
» Brian Baldinger: Panthers
» Sterling Sharpe: Panthers
» Joe Theismann: Saints
This is a trap game to me. The Panthers have been bad, QB Jake Delhomme is beat up and Carolina is coming in off a win. If the Saints let their focus slip, this is a team that knows them well and could tear off some of the long outside runs that have occasionally given New Orleans trouble. But the Saints can beat you in many ways: With long drives, quick strikes or by scoring on defense. And Delhomme is more prone to handing the ball to the wrong team than pretty much anyone in the NFL. Panthers QB Jake Delhomme, who started his career in New Orleans, is 8-2 against the Saints. ... When DeAngelo Williams rushes for 110 yards or more, the Panthers are 10-0. ... Saints RB Reggie Bush has a touchdown in three consecutive games. ... New Orleans is averaging a league-best 39 points per game.

Last edited 11/4/2009 7:48 PM by JawnyBlaze

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Posted: 11/4/2009 9:07 PM

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I like our chances. The Panthers in the John Fox era have owned the Saints. I f they continue to play the way they are capable, I could see a big win happening.
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Posted: 11/4/2009 11:05 PM

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Yep yall have owned us, that's for sure and we've been playing sloppy the last few weeks. We can ill afford to give yall the short field or short down and distances. In order for us to win we have to force yall into a shoot out I believe. I don't think Jake can beat us but your 2 headed Monster sure can.


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Posted: 11/5/2009 2:33 AM

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Yea, if we are to have a shot, Jake has to be in his TOP form.  Better than he's played this year.  IF he can play smart, not forcing throws, not making bad decisions, AND our playcalling is as good or better than last game, we have a chance.  Otherwise, 9 in the box will stop even Double Trouble.

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Posted: 11/5/2009 7:48 AM

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JawnyBlaze wrote:

Found an interesting simulation site.  You put conditions that might happen and it predicts the outcome of the game based on if these conditions are all met.  If all these conditions are met, it predicts the Panthers win 41- 27.  Hey, it could happen! biggrin

 

Jake Delhomme: 150 passing yards or less, 1 or fewer interceptions

DeAngelo Williams: 99 or more rushing yards, 1 or more rushing TD

Jonathan Stewart: 75 or more rushing yards, 1 or more rushing TD

Carolina defense: 3 or more sacks, 3 or more turnovers forced

 

Drew Brees: 299 or more passing yards, 2 or more passing TDs, 2 or more interceptions

 


Do you have a link to the sim site?

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Posted: 11/5/2009 7:53 AM

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I am hoping the Panthers can carry the positive mojo into N.O. this weekend and sting the aints, who will be playing after a short week. I do NOT think they will take us lightly after our beating Arizona.

GO PANTHERS!!!
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Posted: 11/5/2009 9:48 AM

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----UNCUSMC2005 wrote: ---------------

I am hoping the Panthers can carry the positive mojo into N.O. this weekend and sting the aints, who will be playing after a short week. I do NOT think they will take us lightly after our beating Arizona.

GO PANTHERS!!!

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I don't think the short week will have to much of an impact. Conversely we have to get yall out of your Gameplan and force you to play ours. I'm hoping the crowd will help as well with a few false starts.


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Posted: 11/5/2009 9:53 AM

My Simulation of the game... http://www.whatifsports.com 


2009 Carolina Panthers
2009 New Orleans Saints
@ The Superdome
11/5/2009
2009 Carolina Panthers
3 10 7 7 -- 27
2009 New Orleans Saints
7 10 0 7 -- 24

 

SCORING SUMMARY

1st Quarter
NEW 6:46 TD Pierre Thomas 1 yd. run (Carney kick) 0-7
CAR 0:59 FG John Kasay 36 yds. 3-7
2nd Quarter
CAR 4:48 TD Jonathan Stewart 2 yd. run (Kasay kick) 10-7
NEW 2:30 TD Marques Colston 45 yd. pass from Brees (Carney kick) 10-14
CAR 0:31 FG John Kasay 36 yds. 13-14
NEW 0:00 FG John Carney 29 yds. 13-17
3rd Quarter
CAR 7:35 TD Jonathan Stewart 2 yd. run (Kasay kick) 20-17
4th Quarter
CAR 10:52 TD Jonathan Stewart 5 yd. run (Kasay kick) 27-17
NEW 4:06 TD Devery Henderson 23 yd. pass from Brees (Carney kick) 27-24
PLAYER OF THE GAME
'09 Drew Brees (2009 New Orleans Saints)
TEAM STATISTICS
2009 Carolina Panthers
2009 New Orleans Saints
First Downs 21 16
- Rushing 8 4
- Passing 11 12
- Penalty 2 0
3rd Down Eff 10/17 4/10
4th Down Eff 0/0 0/0
Rushes-Yards 45-124 21-87
Avg Rush 2.8 4.1
Comp-Att-Int 15-23-0 20-23-0
Passing Yards 155 283
Sacks-Yards 1-6 4-24
Fumbles-Lost 0-0 1-1
Punts-Avg 5-43.8 5-39.4
KR-Avg 4-23.8 6-23.3
PR-Avg 5-17.4 5-10.6
Penalties-Yard 5-30 4-20
Time of Possession 35:58 24:02
INDIVIDUAL STATS
2009 Carolina Panthers
RUSHING
Att Yds 20+ L TD
'09 DeAngelo Williams 24 85 0 13 0
'09 Jonathan Stewart 19 35 0 7 3
'09 Steve Smith 1 4 0 4 0
'09 Brad Hoover 1 0 0 0 0
2009 New Orleans Saints
RUSHING
Att Yds 20+ L TD
'09 Reggie Bush 5 49 1 46 0
'09 Pierre Thomas 11 37 0 11 1
'09 Mike Bell 5 1 0 3 0
RECEIVING
Rec Yds 20+ 40+ L TD
'09 Steve Smith 4 58 0 0 16 0
'09 Gary Barnidge 3 35 0 0 12 0
'09 Dwayne Jarrett 3 29 0 0 13 0
'09 DeAngelo Williams 2 22 0 0 15 0
'09 Muhsin Muhammad 2 13 0 0 10 0
'09 Jonathan Stewart 1 4 0 0 4 0
RECEIVING
Rec Yds 20+ 40+ L TD
'09 Marques Colston 4 119 2 2 49 1
'09 Jeremy Shockey 6 59 1 0 20 0
'09 Devery Henderson 3 57 2 0 23 1
'09 David Thomas 2 36 1 0 21 0
'09 Lance Moore 2 22 0 0 19 0
'09 Reggie Bush 2 10 0 0 5 0
'09 Pierre Thomas 1 4 0 0 4 0
PASSING
Comp Att Yards TD INT
'09 Jake Delhomme 15 23 161 0 0
PASSING
Comp Att Yards TD INT
'09 Drew Brees 20 23 307 2 0
DEFENSE
Tackles Sacks INT
'09 Julius Peppers 6 1 0
'09 Tyler Brayton 5 3 0
'09 Jon Beason 4 0 0
'09 Richard Marshall 4 0 0
'09 Chris Harris 4 0 0
'09 Thomas Davis 4 0 0
'09 Captain Munnerlyn 3 0 0
'09 Quinton Teal 2 0 0
'09 Chris Gamble 2 0 0
'09 James Anderson 1 0 0
'09 Damione Lewis 1 0 0
DEFENSE
Tackles Sacks INT
'09 Roman Harper 9 1 0
'09 Tracy Porter 7 0 0
'09 Scott Fujita 7 0 0
'09 Darren Sharper 7 0 0
'09 Scott Shanle 6 0 0
'09 Jonathan Vilma 5 0 0
'09 Charles Grant 4 0 0
'09 Jabari Greer 3 0 0
'09 Sedrick Ellis 2 0 0
'09 Remi Ayodele 2 0 0
'09 Leigh Torrence 1 0 0
'09 Randall Gay 1 0 0
'09 Anthony Hargrove 1 0 0
'09 Will Smith 1 0 0
FIELD GOALS
Made Missed
'09 John Kasay 36,36 --
FIELD GOALS
Made Missed
'09 John Carney 29 --

 

Last edited 11/5/2009 10:00 AM by TalonNC

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Posted: 11/5/2009 10:12 AM

Re: My Simulation of the game... http://www.whatifsports.com 


Fox is 7-0 at the dome. And Jake has never lost a start, including his college and NFL career, at the dome.

 

I really think this streak can continue. We have a shot

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Posted: 11/5/2009 11:23 AM

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-----------------------  Historically, for the past four years the panthers have been the saints kryptonite going 7-1 against the saints in that time span.   The only thing that has changed since last year is the saints have a better defense.  The offense has the same cast of characters.  Traditionally, this matchup has never been a low scoring affair by both teams, only 7/28 times has one team held the other to under 10 points.  Also, only one time has a team in this match scored more than 40 points and that was in 2000 when the Panthers beat the Saints 45-13 at New Orleans.  That being said if the game becomes a blow out I estimate a score of 30-14.  If the game is close I estimate a score of 21-27.

 

----------------------- As far as the game goes I think the game plan for the panthers is simple.  Jake has to be mistake free or close to it, the running game needs to pound the ball and get substantial yardage and the defense needs to put pressure on Dree Brees.  For the saints, Drew Brees needs to be Drew Brees.

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Posted: 11/5/2009 11:40 AM

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----Delhommefan17 wrote: ---------------

Fox is 7-0 at the dome. And Jake has never lost a start, including his college and NFL career, at the dome.



I really think this streak can continue. We have a shot

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Of course the streak can continue but here's a few streaks from Monday night that ended. The Falcons had never lost back to back Games under Matt Ryan and they were undefeated when Turner went over 100. Both of those ended. I'm quite sure our Coaching staff hi well aware of how yall have owned us and hopefully we'll make the correct adjustments to beat yall. If not for Penalties and Turnovers we would've blown Atlanta out. We can't make those same mistakes against yall or we're dead.


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Posted: 11/5/2009 9:48 PM

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It's an ESPN Insider thing.  If you have insider, just go to the Pregame pages about this game and you should find it.  I don't remember exactly how to get there, I was just digging around at ESPN.

UNCUSMC2005 wrote:

 

JawnyBlaze wrote:

Found an interesting simulation site.  You put conditions that might happen and it predicts the outcome of the game based on if these conditions are all met.  If all these conditions are met, it predicts the Panthers win 41- 27.  Hey, it could happen! biggrin

 

Jake Delhomme: 150 passing yards or less, 1 or fewer interceptions

DeAngelo Williams: 99 or more rushing yards, 1 or more rushing TD

Jonathan Stewart: 75 or more rushing yards, 1 or more rushing TD

Carolina defense: 3 or more sacks, 3 or more turnovers forced

 

Drew Brees: 299 or more passing yards, 2 or more passing TDs, 2 or more interceptions


Do you have a link to the sim site?

 

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Posted: 11/5/2009 9:52 PM

Re: My Simulation of the game... http://www.whatifsports.com 


I win will certianly put us back in the playoff conversation (damn that loss to the Bills is a real killer!).  Obviously we have to run the ball to keep their offense off the field.  But we're not going to just smash it down everyone's mouth.  Sooner or later we're going to have to hit some passes to our WRs.

 

Our D has improved, but against less than stellar opponents.  We knock Breeze done some and get some turnovers, there's a chance.  But I think they are the best team in the league and we are below average right now, but getting better.  Best we can hope for is to have a chance with the last possesion.

 

Go Cats!

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Posted: 11/6/2009 12:19 AM

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I think we'll throw alot of Run Blitz's at yall and stack the box with 8 or 9 guys. Try to force Jake into beating us. That's what we did to Miami in the second half and completely shut down the Wildcat.


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Posted: 11/6/2009 5:55 AM

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Don't come down on me to hard, we have got to have a duplicate performance from last week to beat NO.  Can we do it?  Maybe.  I will say we are the type of team to beat them though...pound the rock, keep their offense off of the field and win the turnover battle and it may come out in our favor.

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Posted: 11/6/2009 9:09 AM

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saintsational wrote: Yep yall have owned us, that's for sure and we've been playing sloppy the last few weeks. We can ill afford to give yall the short field or short down and distances. In order for us to win we have to force yall into a shoot out I believe. I don't think Jake can beat us but your 2 headed Monster sure can.


I stated elsewhere that we seem to be a traveling team, and yet the neworleansaints come to Charlotte and it is a different scenario. I still feel a likely loss due to jakedelhomme's fragile physical nature and lack of a capable back up!

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