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Posted: 11/19/2013 11:30 AM

Running game? 


What is the problem with our run game?  Is it that our line is not getting the blocks they should, the backs not hitting the holes as hard, the defense just stepping up and shutting us down or what?  I have a hard time knowing that we have a loaded backfield and can't do much with it.  What is the solution?
 
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Posted: 11/19/2013 11:44 AM

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I think there are a few factors. We mix it up so much with formations and personnel, I think it's difficult for any 1 RB to get into a groove out there. Also, our playcalling with certain personnel on the field hasn't been great. For example, trying to run DeAngelo up the middle just isn't going to work. He runs straight into the defenders and falls down. Unless there is a big hole or it's a zone blocking scheme where he can make 1 cut and hit the North-South line hard, DeAngelo is not effective between the tackles.

We also don't really have a lead blocking FB. Tolbert just isn't that guy you need him to be as a lead blocker.

The OL isn't opening holes and staying on their blocks either. And we haven't done a good job getting to the 2nd level of the defense with our blocking schemes.

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Posted: 11/19/2013 1:01 PM

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to me, it is a combination of run blocking and the back's abilities. the oline was excellent guarding cam, but got blown up a few times in the run game. it happens though.

we are also still easing stew back into games. i think he is the better downhill, between the tackles rb. deangelo is excellent in space, but can be hesitant at times if there isn't a huge seem. it leads to more negative yardage and no gains. look out when he breaks contain though. he showed on the ~30 yard run against SF that he still eats up grass in the open field.

this team has it's own version of ground and pound, and it has shown to be effective even if they aren't gashing defenses. it actually works in our favor more times than not. long, sustained drives are so demoralizing to defenses and these guys have been excellent at not turning the ball over.
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Posted: 11/19/2013 1:13 PM

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keep in mind all the injuries on the O-line. I'm surprised that they are playing as well as they are.
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Posted: 11/19/2013 2:16 PM

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The RG spot being iffy right now is part of it, the absense of Hartsock hurt and then the Patriots sold out to stop the run and force Cam to throw.

We see how that worked out.

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Posted: 11/19/2013 2:26 PM

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This is definitely an issue:

Double trouble? What happened to Carolina's running game against the league's 30th-ranked run defense? Backs DeAngelo WilliamsJonathan Stewart and Mike Tolbertcombined for 41 yards, with Tolbert leading the way with 17. Were it not for Newton's 62 yards the average per rush would have been 2.5 instead of 4.5. Williams, who averaged 97 yards rushing in the first three games, hasn't had more than 46 yards in any of the past five games. This is not the more traditional run offense the Panthers were building toward and need moving forward.

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Posted: 11/19/2013 6:51 PM

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DevilPride86 wrote: to me, it is a combination of run blocking and the back's abilities. the oline was excellent guarding cam, but got blown up a few times in the run game. it happens though.

we are also still easing stew back into games. i think he is the better downhill, between the tackles rb. deangelo is excellent in space, but can be hesitant at times if there isn't a huge seem. it leads to more negative yardage and no gains. look out when he breaks contain though. he showed on the ~30 yard run against SF that he still eats up grass in the open field.

this team has it's own version of ground and pound, and it has shown to be effective even if they aren't gashing defenses. it actually works in our favor more times than not. long, sustained drives are so demoralizing to defenses and these guys have been excellent at not turning the ball over.
You nail DW's issues. He is not a head butter by the shear size factor. Power and speed...give DW ten yards of open space and you have first downs all day long.
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Posted: 11/19/2013 7:09 PM

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I wish the Panthers would throw more to their backs.

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Posted: 11/19/2013 7:42 PM

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NE kept 8-9 in the box all night.

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Posted: 11/20/2013 12:44 AM

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Jackofalltrades1977 wrote: NE kept 8-9 in the box all night.
Sure did. N.O. will try it as well. That is when we should open up Olsen, Smith, Ginn and LaFell to the hilt.

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