Posted: 12/8/2012 1:14 PM
Posted: 12/8/2012 2:03 PM
UNCPEP9023 wrote: 7-9 or 6-10 he should keep his job for atleast another year.
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Posted: 12/8/2012 5:04 PM
OneBadassCat wrote: As much as I question Rivera I'm just as skeptical that a new coaching staff could also set us back. I mean yes we only have 3 wins, but every single one of our losses(save Giants) came down to the last minutes or 7 points or less. They've all come down to a handful of plays. Plays determined by bad calls, undisciplined players, the refs cheating us out of the game, or sheer bad luck and there is no doubt that we are an unlucky team. Although you could say coaching lost us those games it may also be a reason we kept them so close.The only thing that is not forgivable the performance of the offense. Chud royally screwed up and he's going to have really show us something if he wants to keep his job. The defense has been pretty good considering injuries and depth issues. I still hate Rivera's time management and lack of killer instinct.
Posted: 12/8/2012 11:17 PM
UNCPEP9023 wrote: I really hope Coach Rivera gets atleast one more year, I know it's hard to say but I think that this team really needs consistency. Here's my theory, Hall of Fame Coach Jimmie Johnson record with the Cowboys the first year was 1-15 the next year he was 7-9. He really didn't hit his stride until the third year where they went 11-5. Will see what happens the rest of the year plus having a new GM never bodes well for the current HC. I honestly think if we can finish 7-9 or 6-10 he should keep his job for atleast another year. Plus if we get another DCord i think that could do wonders for this team. I understand that there are plenty of personal moves to be made but i also know we have a strong group of core talent to build around.
Posted: 12/8/2012 11:28 PM
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Posted: 12/9/2012 12:42 PM
Jackofalltrades1977 wrote: We have plenty of talent and tomorrow I'll go into detail. Outside of a few spots, we're good enough to win.
Posted: 12/9/2012 12:55 PM
bartman42 wrote: Jackofalltrades1977 wrote: We have plenty of talent and tomorrow I'll go into detail. Outside of a few spots, we're good enough to win.The Panthers have talent....where?The O-line is a mess. Losing Kalil definitely hurt. Gross will turn 33 next season. The rest are maginal. Defensive backs...Gamble turns 30 in 2013...who else in that secondary has any real talent...no oneWide receivers...Steve Smith turns 34 before next season starts...there isn't a legitimate #2 WR in the rest. Lafell and Murphy would be 3rd WR's on most teams...D-line...Johnson and Hardy are good DE's...there are no good DT's...The Panthers have good LB's, good RB's and Newton...and he still has maturity issues....This team needs a real infusion of talent...
Posted: 12/9/2012 6:02 PM
Posted: 12/10/2012 11:09 AM
Jackofalltrades1977 wrote: Funny, both Howie Long and Charles Davis said we had a ton of talent today on air, so I'm not alone in my thoughts.QB, RB, FB, LB, DE aren't debatable, IMO. All of those are slap full of talent.OL- Kalil is an All Pro and a top 3 Center in the NFL, Silatolu is a rookie who has plenty of talent but has to make a big jump coming from community college to the NFL. Gross is an above avg LT at a position where longevity is the norm. Bell has been very good, he was a penalty machine last season but has been our most consistent OL this year and he's still learning the outside. Hangartner is our only real weak spot on OL. I've been saying for a while that RG was a need.WR- LaFell is playing very well and his numbers have improved every year. He has good size, speed and route running. He's an excellent blocker and his hands have gotten much better. Gettis was better than LaFell last time they played together and it wasn't close. If he can regain confidence then he should pick up right where he left off, but in an offense that better fits his skill set. I see a lot of Steve Smith in Joe Adams, I'd like to see more of him in this lost season. Murphy is ok, looks like another Drew Carter. Pilares could be a decent 4th/5th.TE- Olsen is one of the best in the league, I think Barnidge could be as well if given the chance.DT- D Edwards is second in the NFC in sacks and regularly commanded double teams, I guess that takes no talent. Neblett has shown some skill and Kearse as done the same in limited action. This is our biggest need, IMO.CB- If you don't think Josh Norman has a boat load of talent you either don't know what you're watching, or you aren't watching. Josh Thomas has played very well and pretty well just shut Julio Jones down. James Dockery looked very good today too. Gamble is a very good cover CB and hasn't taken a lot of big hits, I could easily see him lasting another 3-4 seasons. His salary and durability may do him in though.Safety- Godfrey is better at SS than FS, if they'd leave him there he'll only get better. Sharrod Martin was playing the best he ever has before he went to the IR and is a very good athlete. FS- DJ Campbell played well today as did ST ace Colin Jones. However, FS is a huge need.This team needs a few pieces (DT, RG, FS) and better coaching.My dream offseason has us drafting Star or Hankins in the first, top OG or WR in the second and then signing Jarius Byrd or Deshawn Gholston at FS in the offseason.You don't play as well as we have this season in the first 55 minutes of all but two games without having a good bit of talent. If we could close, which is on coaching too, then we'd be in the thick of the playoff hunt and these conversations wouldn't be taking place.
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CANAPANTHERFAN wrote: during last off season we spent heavy into special teams. I've seen some improvement especially after letting the ST coach go
Posted: 12/10/2012 3:33 PM
braves104life wrote: UNCPEP9023 wrote: I really hope Coach Rivera gets atleast one more year, I know it's hard to say but I think that this team really needs consistency. Here's my theory, Hall of Fame Coach Jimmie Johnson record with the Cowboys the first year was 1-15 the next year he was 7-9. He really didn't hit his stride until the third year where they went 11-5. Will see what happens the rest of the year plus having a new GM never bodes well for the current HC. I honestly think if we can finish 7-9 or 6-10 he should keep his job for atleast another year. Plus if we get another DCord i think that could do wonders for this team. I understand that there are plenty of personal moves to be made but i also know we have a strong group of core talent to build around.I wish everyone would quit saying things like "we have talent" or "we have a core group of strong talent" ....We have minimal talent...MINIMAL...Outside of our QB and a RB, and a couple LBs, we literally have zero talent!
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Posted: 12/10/2012 8:10 PM