Gatom wrote: Well the Repub's do not need to become the Dems. Once we become more like them we will lose every time.

B3eenthehedges wrote: Love the avy (I'm a longtime Paul supporter myself), but what are referring to when you say Dr. Paul told you so?

Not to run a corrupt Massachusetts liberal over the one true conservative in the race?

Not to cheat, screw over and ignore the Paul supporters if you want to win swing states?

To represent the will of the people, not just special interests, which could have gained many of the 14 million voters who stayed home this time?

If they don't run Rand Paul next election, then sorry, but say goodbye to the Republican party having influence. There are an increasing amount of folks from all political stripes who will no longer tolerate the hijacking of our political system by the corrupt and wasteful.

tapate50 wrote: Pubs are losing millions of votes on the social issues. Until that changes, the Dems will stay in office. I do not think the Dems will pull us out of the recession.

Gatom wrote: In a way I am glad Obama won, I think we have to hit rock bottom before people get it.

Gatom wrote: ironnie, go f yourself. You really aren't as smart as you think.

I may not be as smart as *I* think, but I'm probably smarter than you give me credit for.

I'm just sharing my opinions here.  Your posts don't lead me to believe you're very socially liberal.  You support criminalizing cannabis, you have a bleak outlook on the impoverished, and your signatures often express the most extreme characterization of a quote or situation that has become the hallmark of modern republicans.

I don't understand how stupid the Republican politicians can be... They have one job to do: quit talking about rape.  And they fail miserably at it!!  How hard is it to not talk about rape?  If someone asks you a question about rape, the answer is "We all know rape is terrible," and move on.  That's it.  Done.  Boom.  

As a libertarian, I expect both Republicans and Democrats to do the wrong things half of the time.  They are inconsistent ideologies about the size of government.  Republicans used to favor federal fiscal restraint but invasive social regulation.  Democrats used to favor social restraint and invasive financial regulation.  Now though, Republicans are as irresponsible spenders as Democrats are; and Obama's DOJ has been hostile to social issues.  Neither party really cares about anything other than reelection.  

I'm sorry if you don't like my opinions or my assessment, but they didn't just come to me.  I sat and thought long and hard about different issues and morality and justice to come the conclusions I have. 

Gatom wrote: Great, a guy or two say something stupid and now all R's are stupid.

Whatever, matters not. We have 4 years of BS ahead. People ranting on issues on a message board makes those people kind of dumb as well, so......figure it out.

iRonin wrote:

Gatom wrote: ironnie, go f yourself. You really aren't as smart as you think.

I may not be as smart as *I* think, but I'm probably smarter than you give me credit for.

I'm just sharing my opinions here.  Your posts don't lead me to believe you're very socially liberal.  You support criminalizing cannabis, you have a bleak outlook on the impoverished, and your signatures often express the most extreme characterization of a quote or situation that has become the hallmark of modern republicans.

I don't understand how stupid the Republican politicians can be... They have one job to do: quit talking about rape.  And they fail miserably at it!!  How hard is it to not talk about rape?  If someone asks you a question about rape, the answer is "We all know rape is terrible," and move on.  That's it.  Done.  Boom.  

As a libertarian, I expect both Republicans and Democrats to do the wrong things half of the time.  They are inconsistent ideologies about the size of government.  Republicans used to favor federal fiscal restraint but invasive social regulation.  Democrats used to favor social restraint and invasive financial regulation.  Now though, Republicans are as irresponsible spenders as Democrats are; and Obama's DOJ has been hostile to social issues.  Neither party really cares about anything other than reelection.  

I'm sorry if you don't like my opinions or my assessment, but they didn't just come to me.  I sat and thought long and hard about different issues and morality and justice to come the conclusions I have. 

You can stop right there. Thats it in a nutshell. No party will take action that would be detriminal to the reelection campaign.

I think this thread needs to be closed. Usually politics are in some other forum or section.