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Junior Seau Dead at 43, Suicide Suspected

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Posted: 5/2/2012 2:27 PM

Junior Seau Dead at 43, Suicide Suspected 


Originally this was reported by TMZ, but now I'm seeing it show up on local news stations as well. So it appears to be true.
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Posted: 5/2/2012 2:55 PM

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dokgonzo wrote: Originally this was reported by TMZ, but now I'm seeing it show up on local news stations as well. So it appears to be true.

Pretty darn quick there Dok.

http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/s...-149864485.html

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Posted: 5/2/2012 2:57 PM

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The Globe has the story now too.

I'm seeing chatter on Twitter about "why?" ... some say he may have had concussion issues, others say they saw it coming - that he wasn't able to cope with life w/o football. 

Either way, it's a damn shame to see him end that way.
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Posted: 5/2/2012 3:15 PM

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Who here still remembers this game when Junior and Rosie got off the plane and closed out the game against Seattle.
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Posted: 5/2/2012 3:30 PM

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Posted: 5/2/2012 3:38 PM

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Posted: 5/2/2012 3:45 PM

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WTH??? I never would've imagined this! This guy seemed super happy...This is really sad news
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Posted: 5/2/2012 4:17 PM

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Junior Seau was one of the nicest people I ever met, and without a doubt one of the coolest. What a real shame. I wonder if the "nice guy" exterior was hiding a lot of internal demons that he could no longer cope with. My thoughts go out to his family and friends.
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Posted: 5/2/2012 7:22 PM

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When i first heard this,i coudnt believe it.43 years old.So youngfrownWho knows what inner demons he was battling.It broke my heart to see his mom in pain.Any mom's nightmare to lose their child.R.I.P
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Posted: 5/2/2012 9:32 PM

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Good article from SI about Junior.

Also answers the question about why he shot himself in the chest instead of the head as is usual for suicides.

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Posted: 5/2/2012 10:41 PM

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Totally unbelievable, - that old saying about the "good die young" is true. Condolences to his family, - RIP Junior.

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Posted: 5/3/2012 5:18 PM

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New England Patriots Head Coach Bill Belichick has released the following statement regarding the passing of former LB Junior Seau.

Statement from Patriots Head Coach Bill Belichick on Junior Seau:

"A day later, it is still hard to believe.  Of all the players I have coached, nobody was more full of energy and vitality than Junior Seau.  He respected and inspired every single person he came in contact with - players, coaches and support staff.  His defied the odds by playing two decades in the NFL at a level and with a youthful spirit rarely seen but appreciated by everyone.  Junior will always be remembered as a intense Hall of Fame player from the old school.  He was a charismatic icon.  At the same time, as a human being he was as caring, warm and lovable as they come.  That's what I will miss most of all.  It was a privilege to have coached Junior Seau.  My condolences to his family."
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Posted: 5/3/2012 8:27 PM

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1. Junior Seau did not "commit suicide". People who are very well respected, very wealthy, and very active (Seau was into yoga, surfing, music, as well as being a great athlete), and who live very, very well, do not just "commit suicide" one day. These people live very well. And when you live very well, you are not hopeless to this totally extreme point where you would ever take that type of step.

2. Nobody "commits suicide" by shooting themselves in the chest!! That's bull. People kill themselves by shooting themselves in the head, or in the mouth (to ensure a fatal shot), but nobody would ever risk the immense pain and immense disability of a shot to the midsection without killing themselves. Obviously somebody..some other person...shot him in the chest.

3. When someone does shoot themselves, the gun is found either still in their hands, or located right next to their hands. Nobody holds a gun, points it at themself, and shoots themselves while simultaneously throwing the gun several feet away on the floor somewhere.

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I don't know whether it was his girlfriend (who "discovered" his dead body, yet was not a suspect?), or who else would have done it. But someone is being protected by the Police here.

This story is far too fishy to make any sense.

I can just imagine what Lt. Columbo would say about finding a "shot-in-the-chest" body, under such circumstances.

"Oh we can completely rule out suicide Sir. No, this man was murdered by someone else using his own gun."

The "girlfriend" is the obvious first person to suspect here........

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Posted: 5/3/2012 10:37 PM

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There was another suicide where a player shot himself in the chest, - pretty sure it was a Charger. Don't recall his name. - He wanted his brain "in tact" for examination after his death. - If the hand gun was of a decent size caliber, - the recoil would send it away from the body, often several feet. He would NOT be hanging onto it.

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Posted: 5/3/2012 11:18 PM

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Posted: 5/4/2012 12:51 PM

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DerekLarsson2 wrote:
1. Junior Seau did not "commit suicide". People who are very well respected, very wealthy, and very active (Seau was into yoga, surfing, music, as well as being a great athlete), and who live very, very well, do not just "commit suicide" one day. These people live very well. And when you live very well, you are not hopeless to this totally extreme point where you would ever take that type of step.

2. Nobody "commits suicide" by shooting themselves in the chest!! That's bull. People kill themselves by shooting themselves in the head, or in the mouth (to ensure a fatal shot), but nobody would ever risk the immense pain and immense disability of a shot to the midsection without killing themselves. Obviously somebody..some other person...shot him in the chest.

3. When someone does shoot themselves, the gun is found either still in their hands, or located right next to their hands. Nobody holds a gun, points it at themself, and shoots themselves while simultaneously throwing the gun several feet away on the floor somewhere.

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I don't know whether it was his girlfriend (who "discovered" his dead body, yet was not a suspect?), or who else would have done it. But someone is being protected by the Police here.

This story is far too fishy too make any sense. I can just imagine what Lt. Columbo would say about finding a "shot-in-the-chest" body, under such circumstances.

"Oh we can completely rule out suicide Sir. No, this man was murdered by someone else using his own gun."

The "girlfriend" is the obvious first person to suspect here........
This whole thing is weird IMO. Listening to guys talk about how they had just hung out with him a few days before and how he was enjoying life running his restaurant and other businesses, exercised daily with is dog, loved his kids,etc.

There was no suicide note and like DL stated, shooting yourself in the chest is a painful way to go. I know what Dave Duerson   did but he left a note explaining why he did it. I wonder if they did a GSR on  the girl friend?

I am not a conspiracy theorist but  something else is going on here IMO
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Posted: 5/4/2012 1:41 PM

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Someone who actually spent time with Seau disagrees with DL's analysis.

Maybe something else did happen, but something else true of celebs is that it's not uncommon for the official story to change to protect the family. Especially for a guy as beloved in SD as Junior was.  So I do leave a door open for "further evidence to surface" as they say.

There was no note, but he did send TXT messages to all his kids and ex-wife a day before the incident. The gun was found near the body.

I have less trouble believing it. One of my idols in the field of writing, Hunter S. Thompson, killed himself a few years ago as well. No one saw it coming - not even people who saw him every single day. He was outwardly upbeat and productive up to the end. But at some point he made a decision that he had had enough pain in his life and just ended it one fine morning.
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Posted: 5/4/2012 5:52 PM

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Dok,,,,,Oh Dok,,,,,, Hunter Thompson was baked.  I mean he was 450 cooked.   Thompson was a well documented fry guy.  Doesn't make him a bad guy.  Just makes his actions open for long discussions.

Some of his stuff was magic.  Some of it was incoherent.  I see that in a lot of the Rolling Stoner writers. Kurt  Loder was a load of crap.  Couldn't put two coherent sentences together.  I could never understand how the guy was allowed to continue input to the Rolling mag.  As Thompson did, Loder even contributed to a number of other mags... Must have passed around some really great fatties.
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Posted: 5/4/2012 6:37 PM

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Actually, Thompson's demise had very little to do with the recreational pharmaceuticals he so dearly loved. Quite the contrary. In his later years he had to have multiple surgical procedures. I believe back surgery and a hip replacement. Neither went well. He was more or less in constant pain in his final years and unable to get around on his own in the manner we all remember him (on his Vincent Black Shadow or other likewise hellish piece of machinery). The pain meds couldn't keep up with the way his physical body was breaking down. (And, yes, I will yield the point that his earlier lifestyle no doubt lead to his later condition).

After he died, those close to him (Steadman, and others he worked with on a daily basis) all said they didn't see it coming, but they should have. Because his behavior did change in the final months. He started getting work done without being asked, he started finishing off small projects that had been lying around for years. He was getting his affairs in order. Everyone kind of assumed he was just getting back to work, no one guessed he had turned a corner.

In Seau's case, the article I posted demonstrates that at least one of his friends sensed trouble. A couple of the Boston reporters who knew Junior have expressed that they could sense he would be one of those guys who had trouble dealing with life without football. If Junior had the kinds of concussion related symptoms we've read about, there's no telling what kind of misery he was in. Odds are he never told anyone because that's not who he was. He was always the one helping others. And that too can be a lonely place to be.
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Posted: 5/4/2012 9:26 PM

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About every board has arm chair psychologists pontificating on the reason he committed suicide.  Truth is, we'll probably never know, ... it's anyone's guess at this point. If he had some "personal demons" that  "we the public" weren't aware of, a distinct possibility  - so be it.

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Posted: 5/5/2012 1:06 AM

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Agreed. My only point really was that that situation can exist and you can see the person every day and still never see it coming.

The league already has a rookie symposium to teach the draftees how to handle life in the NFL. There should probably be a similar program for players to handle life after the NFL.
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Posted: 5/5/2012 8:14 PM

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This hits too close to home as i just found out today that a very close friends sister took her own life... I'm so sorry for Junior and his family...

May we who process this LEARN to watch out for those who may have lost hope ...
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Posted: 5/7/2012 9:36 AM

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After all the training i have recieved in the militar about suicide and what to watch for i am still by no means an expert. That being said a large percentage of people who commit suicide for whatever reason  once they decide to do it become extremly happy and go about life happier than they have ever been. Why? Because they have finally come to the conclusion that they are going to leave this world and leave behind whatever sad demons or other things that led them to doing such a drastic thing.







   

         

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