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Official Game 12 thread Colts vs. Patriots
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Posted: 11/28/2011 3:46 PM
Official Game 12 thread Colts vs. Patriots
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Who will win Sundays game?
- Poll closed on 12/03/2011
- Colts: 1 vote
- Patriots: 12 votes
Chance favors the Prepared Mind.
Last edited 11/29/2011 11:03 AM by Morpheus11
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Posted: 11/28/2011 3:49 PM
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The Colts are not only a joke but an embarassment to the NFL. I would have thought the players would have had more pride. I guess I was wrong.
If I were Manning I would not want to go back. They could keep the suck for Luck all too themselves.
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Posted: 11/28/2011 4:01 PM
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I heard the early line this morning is 21 1/2 points. That is incredible. If it sticks, and it will probably go up, that will be the highest NFL point spread I have ever seen.
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Posted: 11/28/2011 4:04 PM
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Two words: Trap Game.
I'm sure BB will warn everyone of this possibility, but it is so easy to look past this year's Colts. TB is all fired up again, so I doubt he'll accept anything less than perfection from the offense - which should be enough against the Colts. |
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Posted: 11/28/2011 4:06 PM
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Dok normally I would agree with you, but the Colts are so bad this year this can't possibly be a trap game. LOL
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Posted: 11/28/2011 4:26 PM
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As i thought when the patriots headed into buffalo this year. Yet the team still got beat. AS i thought going into the giants and the master at getting sacked Eli Manning. Yet the team got beat. Careful patriots play tough and keep playing tough. Jimbothekid wrote: Dok normally I would agree with you, but the Colts are so bad this year this can't possibly be a trap game. LOL |
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Posted: 11/28/2011 4:26 PM
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Agreed - this Colts team is quite possibly the worst team I have seen in a decade. If the Colts play their A game and the Patriots stink it up, I still can't see the Patriots losing.
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Posted: 11/28/2011 5:10 PM
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There's A LOT more wrong with the Colts than Manning being out. - If they'd don't clean house "top to bottom" something's really wrong. - Without Manning, I would think somewhere around 7-9 maybe even 6-10 worst case scenario.
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Posted: 11/28/2011 5:28 PM
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"21 points is ridiculous...should be at least double that.  " . Credit: Colts Scout Board, ... |
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Posted: 11/28/2011 6:40 PM
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dokgonzo wrote:Two words: Trap Game.
Trap Game, I hope not but the Pats have been known to self destruct in the past. What I hope is that Tommy Terrific has a blow out first half and maybe puts the Pats up by 30 points or so. Then we want to see guys like Hoyer get in there and run the O with a good mix of option plays and passing. He needs the live game practice and this could be the game to provide that. I would also like to see more Vereen , Price, Underwood and some Chung back out there. And the football gods know that Sergio Brown needs some reps against some sub par competition. |
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Posted: 11/28/2011 7:31 PM
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I honestly believe that the Colts realized very early in the season that Manning would not be back this season and will be very questionable next year and beyond, and that after they went about 0-3 or 0-4 they decided to just tank the season so they can draft Luck, and they are doing just that.
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Posted: 11/28/2011 8:59 PM
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All the new guys and the other guys need reps. Going up by 20+ early would be ideal.
The fact that the Colts are losing so bad tells me that getting a new rookie QB won't make them a contender any time soon. Manning don't play defense and their defense has been horrific - giving up almost 30 points per game is just plain horrible. But if any game broke their spirit it was that 62-7 rape by the Saints.
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Posted: 11/29/2011 10:18 AM
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I don't think any player would forfeit without playing and they will put in a certain level of effort everytime however when you feel deep down that there is no way you can win that effort might not be optimum.
As far as Manning, he doesn't play defense but he can put up points and keep his defense off the field to hide their flaws. The game changes a bit if Manning comes out and puts his team up 14-0 in the first 5 minute of the game.
Last edited 11/29/2011 10:21 AM by 3rdngoal
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Posted: 11/29/2011 10:52 AM
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If they lose. You want to talk about a fired up coaching staff and players motivated to the core. It could get ugly, and I wouldn't want to face them. It could become a rallying call for the rest of the season. Of course I want them to win big but character building losses for our young ones could help if the unthinkable happened. I probably had one too many coffees to think this way. I agree that a blowout and letting others play would help this team. If they don't do that then practice plays that could help in the future and see who plays best with who and get good tape to work with. |
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Posted: 11/29/2011 12:51 PM
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Indy just canned their DC. So I guess someone there also felt that losing Manning shouldn't create the worst defense in the league.
This could impact the outcome or not. The new DC may motivate their players to actually play defense for a change and give the Pats a hard time. Or the new DC will be in over his head and Brady will shred him. Or the Colts just suck no matter what.
Ooops ... more news ... Dan Orlovsky will be the QB against the Pats. I guess that'd be an upgrade over Painter.
Last edited 11/29/2011 1:32 PM by dokgonzo
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Posted: 11/29/2011 2:14 PM
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I hope the offense has a good day at the office against the colts.Also the defense cant let a guy like Painter shred them!!
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Posted: 11/29/2011 2:32 PM
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The colts are sucking for Luck.Reggie Wayne's still a playmaker but Painter stinks.All i hope is a strong start from the get go.
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Posted: 11/29/2011 4:57 PM
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Posted: 11/29/2011 4:59 PM
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I truly hope that the offense for the Patriots is ready to go the minute they step on the field for the pre-game stretch. I hope the Patriots bury the Colts worse than the Saints did. I know it won't happen but that would make it a great Sunday. 72 to 10, sounds good. Brady with 7 TD passes and 600 yards passing. Thats insane!!! Chance favors the Prepared Mind. |
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Posted: 11/29/2011 5:31 PM
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Why the hell would they release a CB when they're thin at that spot? Time to mix up another litre of Berry Belichick Kool-Aid.
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Posted: 11/29/2011 5:43 PM
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Dont get it either even if McCourty comes back this weekend.You never know with injuries.
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Posted: 11/29/2011 5:53 PM
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During this time of uncertainty remember they have so many more facts than us. Until we know more I could use a double of that Berry BB Kool-Aid and put it on the rocks so I can chew on this for awhile.  *********** by Jeff Howe on Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 5:36PM  0The Patriots released cornerback Phillip Adams on Tuesday, and the roster transaction could mean any number of things.Adams played primarily in the slot in nickel and dime packages, though he received some work on the outside at times this season, most notably when Antwaun Molden was benched in the second half against the Steelers. The decision to release Adams was relatively surprising, even from a team that had already parted ways with some bigger-name players earlier in the season. Adams seemed to play well in his role on defense, and he performed with some attitude, getting in opponents' faces and not shying away from contact during and after the play. There was no concurrent roster transaction, so the Patriots only had 52 players on the active roster after Adams' release. Of course, any transaction leads to the possibility of safety Ross Ventrone getting promoted from the practice squad, but it's still unclear at this point. The Patriots will likely announce another move in time for Wednesday's practice. Adams' release could be a positive sign for the health of safety Patrick Chung or cornerback Devin McCourty, though the former would make more sense. Chung, who has missed the last three games with a foot injury, could return to his traditional spot, which would move Sterling Moore from safety to slot cornerback. Moore, a cornerback by trade, has played on the outside and in the slot, and he has started at safety for the last three games. With Kyle Arrington, Molden, Moore and Julian Edelman in the mix, the Patriots would have four cornerbacks on the roster if Chung was healthy enough to get back on the field this week.
Last edited 11/29/2011 6:23 PM by PatManpower
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Posted: 11/29/2011 7:14 PM
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It's been a couple weeks since the last time they cut a CB, so BB probably couldn't hold off any longer. No need to have more than a couple of them on the roster right? You need those roster spots for all those WR's who don't play.
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Posted: 11/29/2011 10:13 PM
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Maybe there's a transaction yet to come. BB never leaves a roster spot open and I cannot believe they'd ditch Adams just to re-sign Ventrone.
Maybe Ocho will be playing DB this week.
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Posted: 11/29/2011 10:23 PM
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Two words: Crap game....don't spend your money on this dog. the Pats 2nd 1pm start and for good reason. The Colts SUCK!
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Posted: 11/30/2011 7:07 AM
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Hunter07 wrote: There's A LOT more wrong with the Colts than Manning being out. - If they'd don't clean house "top to bottom" something's really wrong. - Without Manning, I would think somewhere around 7-9 maybe even 6-10 worst case scenario. 007.....................FYI, Mr. Owen Ten is now residing in Indianapolis. Manning will always keep them in the game however, with the aging of marquee players, I do not see them returning to the SB until after they re-tool. |
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Posted: 11/30/2011 7:48 AM
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The Colts have been between a 6 and 8 win team for several years now without Manning. He covered a lot of weaknesses. And this year's team is not as good as those teams were. Even with Manning I expect they would have been at best a 9 or 10 win team this year. It surprises me that they have not been able to at least come up with a couple wins, but like I said I don't think they are putting a whole lot of effort into winning games, as evidenced by the fact that they have been starting Curtis Painter at QB all year.
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Posted: 11/30/2011 11:44 AM
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Maybe the Colts will attempt what the Cheifs did...mess with the tempo of the game early to catch the Pats off guard. Palko caught the Pats trying to change defenders, the moptioning of offensive players messed the Pats up early. Unfortunately for the Cheifs they themselves were often not ready for all that. Orlovsky plus a minor system change could catch the Pats by surprise for a quarter.
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Posted: 11/30/2011 12:50 PM
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Pats filled Adams' roster spot with veteran CB Nathan Jones. Mainly played slot corner in Dallas, supposed to be an excellent blitzer.
Consensus amongst the Boston sportswriters was that Edelman outplayed Adams the last two weeks, which prompted the upgrade (hopefully).
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Posted: 11/30/2011 2:46 PM
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Ocho and Fletcher were back on the field today.
Spikes was present but did not participate.
Vollmer only player not spotted.
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Posted: 11/30/2011 3:23 PM
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I think Edelman is very close to earning a starting role...as the slot defender.
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Posted: 11/30/2011 4:01 PM
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I might have an answer to why Ocho is running bad routes and acting so desperate. He has to play blueball at the crib when we want him to play football on the grid. He might have to change to 69......... At least then he might play fine! |
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Posted: 11/30/2011 5:54 PM
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I was following that. Later in the evening he twitted that all that talk is just foreplay. No doubt she picks on him for being a non-factor, but they seem to have a good thing.
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Posted: 11/30/2011 6:14 PM
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Ah shucks......... I thought there might be a reason/cure for his unexplainable play. |
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Posted: 11/30/2011 8:49 PM
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The Pats are coming off a blowout so maybe they dont' take us seriously. We just fired somebody so maybe the team has something to prove. Orlovsky is starting at QB so maybe we get a spark there. The o line has played better lately, we might have something in this new TE and new FB when it comes to blocking in the running game. Addai is back, Brown is playing well. The Patriots defense is terrible, so all of those factors could result in us being able to play some ball control and keep it close.
Vinatieri is an x factor for us. Powers has been coming on lately, Conner and WHeeler are playing better, Angerer is playing well.
Lets say Freeney and Mathis have a great game, and as a result we stop a couple of drives and they cause a couple of fumbles we recover.
I can just see all of these factors coming together for us and resulting in us squeaking out a win.
Its not based on emotion at all, I can honestly see it.
I predicted we'd come back against the Bucs in 2003, predicted we'd beat the Packers in 1997, and predicted we'd beat the 49ers in 1995, so we'll see.
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Posted: 11/30/2011 11:14 PM
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A Colts W is possible - but it's pretty much a case of the Pats have to let them win. The Pats have played a few stinkers this year, but rarely do they play lousy on both O and D for a full 60 minutes - and that's kind of what it'll take for Indy to win.
If Ocho is healthy and isn't on the field and doesn't get at least one TD against this awful Colts team, then I honestly have no idea why he's still on the team. If ever there was a game where they can afford to start him and use him as a primary receiver, this is it.
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Posted: 12/1/2011 6:36 AM
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Of course a win is possible. But the stars would have to align exactly for the Colts. The Patriots would have to stink it up on both offense and defense all 60 minutes and the Colts will need career games out of most of their players.
There is a reason why the Patriots are favored by 21 points. It is going to be a blowout. Like I said before - this Colts team is perhaps the worst NFL team I have seen in a decade. They are that bad.
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Posted: 12/1/2011 10:40 AM
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Not really. Good games by Freeney and Mathis might be enough...5-6 sacks, forced fumbles and an INT would probably mean the Pats only score 2 td's. The Colts might be able to put up 2 and a feild goal.
The other thing that might work is an inordinate amount of gimmick plays by the Colts. Flea-Flickers, reverses, options etc. Those types of plays would probably catch the secondary unaware.
The percentage is very low but stranger things have...maybe not.
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Posted: 12/1/2011 11:49 AM
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The Patriots lost by 3 points in Buffalo in a game in which they played horribly defensively, didn't look that good on offense after the 1st quarter, had 100 yards in penalties, and turned the ball over 4 times. That Buffalo team is much better than Indianapolis.
If the Patriots play as poorly as they did in that Buffalo game, they still win at home against the Colts. I fully expect the Colts to attempt a bunch of gimmicky plays, including onside kicks. Hopefully Belichick will have the team ready for them.
edit - the game is projected to be so much of a stinker that not only has it been flexed from Sunday Night Football to a 1PM game, but the only places it is even being televised is a few networks in New England and a few networks in Indiana.
Last edited 12/1/2011 11:54 AM by stealthdog666
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Posted: 12/1/2011 2:12 PM
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The colts have weapons.This offensive line has to start well.The pats need to start well.Seems like they get off to slow starts on offense.
I think the two road games against washington and denver could be tough.TB always seems to struggle in denver.
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