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Game Balls & Goats: Patriots - Steelers
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Posted: 10/30/2011 7:12 PM
Game Balls & Goats: Patriots - Steelers
Hey Guys, you know the drill. Time to let it be known. Who stood out and who stunk it up.
We need 3 game balls (the good stuff, who stood out) and 3 goats (the screw ups, the stink ups, the PePe Lephews.. the players who could have and should have done better) This is fot the entire NFL game slate.
BALLS
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Honorable Mention
GOATS
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DISHonorable Mentions
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Posted: 10/30/2011 9:08 PM
Re: Game Balls & Goats: Patriots - Steelers
Only got to see part of the game because the feed was so crappy ... or maybe that was the game itself ... anyway:
BALLS
1) Kevin Faulk - back off PUP after a year away from the game, and is the leading rusher, chips in with 20 yards receiving, and does his usual pass-pro magic.
2) Chung and Spikes ... were all over the field ... no they weren't perfect but they played their butts off.
3) The DL who showed up ... Vince, Carter, Anderson, Love ... 5 sacks between 'em.
HONORABLES ... BUF for threashing WAS (and the poster child for the ABJ movement ... "Anyone But the Jets"), STL for an unexpected win against NO, Guyton for his pick (ok, so he sucked at everything else, he's the only Pat to get an INT this week).
GOATS
1) Hoodie ... throws the secondary into a Cuisinart on Friday an expects them to know what they're doing Sunday? Good luck with that. No adjustments - or none that worked - team is unprepared to match PIT's intensity or physicality. I can't bring myself to blame the players entirely when they were partly set up to fail. Also the poor tackling and bad angles continue.
2) The DL who didn't show up ... Ellis, Albert ... supposed to be impact players, ain't impacting squat.
3) Ocho ... even Brady said it after the game: "the way to beat man coverage is to make plays and we didn't". Ocho is supposed to be the big play maker and he didn't do squat either. And they needed a playmaker today.
DISHONORABLES ... MIA for choking big time ... ARI for choking big time.
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Posted: 10/30/2011 9:08 PM
Re: Game Balls & Goats: Patriots - Steelers
This is an easy week:
Balls; The Steelers
Goats: The Patriots coaching staff. From the first snap you know the Patriots were going to lose. This team was not ready to play and looked horrible coming off a bye week. The defense was terrible all day. No pass rush and if there was a pass rush it was because they Blitzed 7 and then it was an easy completion for 15 yards. And how do you have the ball 1st and 10 at the 15 yard line with 4 minutes to go and you take more the 2 minutes to score?? You just wasted the game there with piss poor play calling.
Going into the game you know that BJGE would not be effective against the Steelers. He takes way to long to hit the hole and has poor vision. Today we should have seen Ridley with about 15-20 carries. Yet we only run the ball 12 times?? Bill, I love you, but this loss is 99% your fault.
Just a note on how bad out D was today. The only time the D stopped the Steelers was the last drive of the game when they were trying to run down the clock. The did get the one INT as well. Every other time the Steelers scored or missed on FG. That is total domination by the Steelers my friends.
Last edited 10/30/2011 10:50 PM by vinnybravo
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Posted: 10/30/2011 9:22 PM
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BALLS
1. #33 - Welcome back.
2. Gronkowski - He just catches everything and is a monster to take down. My favorite play was when he gave Polamalu a piggy back for a few extra yards. don't know why Belichick didn't challenge the TD. It probably would have been overturned and would have given the Patriots alot more time on the clock.
3. St Louis Rams.
Honorable Mention - Guyton's INT.
GOATS
1. The bend but don't break soft zone. Why have the Pats gone from man-to-man back to the soft zone? I'm guessing it has to do with personnel because they have now cut 1/2 of their starting secondary. I hate it. And when the receivers are that wide open, you don't give the DL enough time to provide pressure.
2. Vollmer - he really struggled today. Or....better yet....the whole OL struggled.
3. The offense's inability to stay on the field. Pittsburgh had the ball for 40 minutes, had 78 offensive plays, and the Patriots still only lost by 1 score. Its amazing that when the Patriots play this poorly, they still have a chance to win the game. They ran the ball only 12 times.....
DISHonorable Mentions - Zebras. Not that it mattered because the Patriots lose anyways, but they continue to be consistently inconsistent. The missed Gronkowski TD. Missed a helmet to helmet earlier in the game. And I don't know how every single one of them failed to see the illegal Polamalu punching of the football at the end of the game. Miami Dolphins for consecutive back-to-back 4th quarter chokes.
edit - need to add the Cowboys defense in the dishonorable mentions. Its not even halftime yet and they have allowed Philadelphia 20 first downs. How is it possible to give up 20 first downs in 1/2 a game???
Last edited 10/30/2011 9:49 PM by stealthdog666
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Posted: 10/31/2011 5:53 AM
Re: Game Balls & Goats: Patriots - Steelers
Balls:
1). Roethlisberger....like him or not, he is a stud quarterback.
2). Kevin Faulk...not so much for play on the field, but I like how he immediately called to the Pittsburgh trainers and medical staff when one of the Pittsburgh players got hurt ( I forgot the name of the player ). May be players do this more than we think, but it was a classy move by the always classy Faulk.
3). Pittsburgh coaching staff....for playing the game to win, and not lose in the fourth quarter
Goats:
1). Patriots offense...this is the second week in a row they have really struggled against a good defense. They really only scored 10 points today. Sorry, I can't count the first TD when they started the drive on the Pittsburgh 4 yard line ( or whatever it was ).
2). Bill Belichick...sorry guys but he has really lost his fastball. From drafting and free agents to in game coaching, he is just losing it. Slowly, may be, but he is.
3). Robert Kraft....PLEASE buy another shirt. I'm begging you.
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Posted: 10/31/2011 6:36 AM
RE: Game Balls & Goats: Patriots - Steelers
BALLS
1)Big Ben.
2)Entire Steelers coaching staff with their game planning both sides of the ball. Totally exposed our weakness which will be a nice blueprint for upcoming opponents to use against us.
3)Woodly was a beast.
GOATS
1)Bill Belichick. Two weeks to prepare and get a result like that? We still had a chance to win with 3 timeouts and the 2 min warning and we try an onside kick which hasn't been successful since 1994? Way to play the odds. Steelers offense would have had a lot of pressure on them to get at least 1 first down. Maybe they gack it up. BB has regressed as a head coach IMHO.
2)O line and our defensive secondary. 3rd and 15 and a guy runs down the field stops and turns around, stands there for a couple seconds with absolutely nobody converging on him and the Steelers convert. When you play zone you have still have to react to whats going on down the field. Very frustrating to watch.
3)Gostkowski. Not one of his better efforts.
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Posted: 10/31/2011 9:42 AM
RE: Game Balls & Goats: Patriots - Steelers
Statistically, the on-sides kick was the right move. The chance of winning either way was low. But, the on-sides kick had greater odds of a Patriots win. I don't have an issue with that strategy - it was everything else I have a problem with. http://espn.go.com/blog/boston...call-on-kickoff |
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Posted: 10/31/2011 11:49 AM
Re: Game Balls & Goats: Patriots - Steelers
Jimbothekid wrote: Balls:
1). Roethlisberger....like him or not, he is a stud quarterback.
2). Kevin Faulk...not so much for play on the field, but I like how he immediately called to the Pittsburgh trainers and medical staff when one of the Pittsburgh players got hurt ( I forgot the name of the player ). May be players do this more than we think, but it was a classy move by the always classy Faulk.
3). Pittsburgh coaching staff....for playing the game to win, and not lose in the fourth quarter
Goats:
1). Patriots offense...this is the second week in a row they have really struggled against a good defense. They really only scored 10 points today. Sorry, I can't count the first TD when they started the drive on the Pittsburgh 4 yard line ( or whatever it was ).
2). Bill Belichick...sorry guys but he has really lost his fastball. From drafting and free agents to in game coaching, he is just losing it. Slowly, may be, but he is.
3). Robert Kraft....PLEASE buy another shirt. I'm begging you. Kid...............How about the loss of Crannel & Weiss??? |
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Posted: 10/31/2011 1:47 PM
Re: Game Balls & Goats: Patriots - Steelers
Absolutely User, no question about it. It is a combination of MANY things right now.
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Posted: 10/31/2011 2:39 PM
Re: Game Balls & Goats: Patriots - Steelers
Balls: The other 5 teams who had a bye and came out prepared to play and won this week,
The Steelers from coaching on down who came to play
St. Louis for having heart and showing that any given Sunday anyone can win.
Goats: Bill Belichick. Bill the team was not ready to play and that falls on you. And you were once again out coached.
Bill O'Brien, once again FAILS to adjust in game. Seems the Patriots were determined to force Faulk on Pitt at the expense of Ridley and Woodhead. Who is the SLOWEST RB on the Patriots roster least likely to "hit a home run"? You need a homerun yesterday and you play the slowest. Well done.
Referees. The rules say it is illegal to touch the receiver after the 5 yard thing? Many times Pitt was touching, pushing, holding the receivers after the 5 yard mark and 95% NEVER CALLED.
Gotkowski: its not the missed 42 yarder. Most of your field goals barely make it insider the uprights. It was the pathetic inside attempt. You can't convince me that he practices this. I know high school kickers that can do a better job doing that.
Grade: F Chance favors the Prepared Mind. |
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Posted: 10/31/2011 3:16 PM
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Morpheus11 wrote:Seems the Patriots were determined to force Faulk on Pitt at the expense of Ridley and Woodhead. Who is the SLOWEST RB on the Patriots roster least likely to "hit a home run"? You need a homerun yesterday and you play the slowest. Well done.
This!! I thought I was the only one who thought this and didn't really wanna rock the board since everyone likes Faulk. It is so true though, it looked like BB spent more time on getting Faulk involved in the offense then our awful secondary |
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Posted: 11/1/2011 7:11 AM
RE: Game Balls & Goats: Patriots - Steelers
That is quite the mathamatical equasion on which way was the best way to go. Holy crap! It looked to me that one thing that was not considered when deciding to go for the onside kick was how prepared our team was at executing the play and it turned out to be a pathetic example. Maybe they work on it a lot during practice. Sure didn't look it. I agree that the pats D couldn't stop a nose bleed that day (as in most) but sometimes late game pressure can be hard to deal with and could have made the steelers offense tighten up enough to where they don't execute well enough to pick up a crucial first down. Atleast they would have had to earn it.
Maybe I'm wrong about BB regressing as a head coach. Perhaps most of the other NFL coaches and their staffs are getting much better and now it is starting to show.
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Posted: 11/1/2011 10:07 AM
RE: Game Balls & Goats: Patriots - Steelers
brickie wrote: That is quite the mathamatical equasion on which way was the best way to go. Holy crap! It looked to me that one thing that was not considered when deciding to go for the onside kick was how prepared our team was at executing the play and it turned out to be a pathetic example. Maybe they work on it a lot during practice. Sure didn't look it. I agree that the pats D couldn't stop a nose bleed that day (as in most) but sometimes late game pressure can be hard to deal with and could have made the steelers offense tighten up enough to where they don't execute well enough to pick up a crucial first down. Atleast they would have had to earn it.
Maybe I'm wrong about BB regressing as a head coach. Perhaps most of the other NFL coaches and their staffs are getting much better and now it is starting to show. BB said on his radio show that Gosk had been kicking it great, many times in practice. (He could be lying though.) I'm sure many here will think so. A lot of times kickers are given the green light to kick away if they see the return team in position to get the kick so they can call it off if called. Gosk must of seen an opening and missed his free throw.( have it go 10 yards) Imagine doing that, such an easy thing to do. Arrington was offside so even if we got it, it wouldn't of counted. A bone head play by him that obviously is not coached that way. Players are expected to execute.
I would of kicked off though, hoping the pressure of the moment, defensive execution and field position would help me win.
Last edited 11/1/2011 10:14 AM by PatManpower
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Posted: 11/1/2011 1:18 PM
RE: Game Balls & Goats: Patriots - Steelers
goats.
Refs
Pats Tackling
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