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Jags - Patriots Official game 15 thread

Posted: 12/22/2009 11:09 AM

Jags - Patriots Official game 15 thread 


This the official  game 15 thread for the game between the

jacksonville jaguars football helmet and new england patriots football helmet

Anything related to the game will go in this thread. Duplicate threads will be deleted. Violaters will have to listen to a 96 hour 4 letter network lovefest marathon about Peyton Manning, Archie Manning, Eli Manning and Brett Favre.


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Last edited 12/22/2009 5:20 PM by Morpheus11

Posted: 12/22/2009 6:52 PM

Re: Jags - Patriots Official game 15 thread 


The Jags will be a real test. These are not Da Bills.  Time to turn up the run game again. And lets hope our Dline is up and running at full streath.

Posted: 12/22/2009 7:57 PM

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I know getting the run game going is important in general, but this is a game where I think the pass offense is going to be the key because the Jags are pretty bad against the pass. They're 27th in ypg and 25th in ypa. Even better they are dead last in sacks with only 14 (that's 1 per game). They Pats should be able to move the ball through the air.

Posted: 12/22/2009 10:00 PM

RE: Jags - Patriots Official game 15 thread 


If they're going to focus on the pass, please, please, please, please, please throw to someone besides Moss and Welker once in a while.

Posted: 12/23/2009 7:18 AM

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Couldn't agree more Dok,  - they have to at least try some screens, - something they're usually pretty good at. Some short stuff, - just hang onto the ball/control the clock, - keep our defense off the field. It's almost like they're hooked on the bomb, - which everyone on the planet already knows.

Posted: 12/23/2009 7:19 AM

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dokgonzo wrote: If they're going to focus on the pass, please, please, please, please, please throw to someone besides Moss and Welker once in a while.

Good point but, who? Edelman still have the cast on? Aiken still on Bradys chit list?  LoMo don't catch passes' out of the back field. Baker has been forced to line block as he certainly can catch the ball. Same thing with the big guy on the other side, forced to block that is. Who does it leave? Faulk out of the back field.
With a two game "cushon"(sp) maybee they aught to rest the starters this week?  Sure looks like TB could use a rest v. a sub-500 opponent.
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Posted: 12/23/2009 8:43 AM

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It's time for Ben Watson to step into that role. I don't care if we have to go with a 2 TE formation or just line him up wideout. He makes some great catches and he makes some bad drops but they need to get him more involved regardless. There just isn't anyone else who has the time with Brady to be that guy.

Posted: 12/23/2009 8:57 AM

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The problem with resting anyone this week is that the Jags aren't mathematically eliminated and will probably be gunning for the Pats and there is a slim chance that with 2 losses in a row the Pats could get eliminated from the playoffs...10/6 will probably be the wild card level and I would hate to see it come down to have to rely on tie-breakers vs. the Dolphins again.  The following week against the Texans may be a possibility for resting if everything is sealed up.

I hope that even with starters returning the play calling stays creative.  Even though some stuff didn't work against the Bills the playcalling was not the ordinary stuff we had seen all season.

Posted: 12/23/2009 10:41 AM

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The Patriots better win this game to clinch the division. The Texans will be going all out to win in that final game perhaps to save their coaches job and it's on the road. The Pat's play at home this week they better be ready.

The Patriots also have a TE in Baker who can catch. It could also be that they have the TE's in to block on a max protection package which is why they have not thrown to them much when they are in there.

Posted: 12/23/2009 11:40 AM

Re: Jags - Patriots Official game 15 thread 


They don't have to chuck every pass 20 yards downfield. Nice 5-8 yard passes to Watson/Baker are just fine. Get the ball out of there quick before the pass rush gets to Brady. You know, like they used to.

I expect a big game from Aiken. From all I've read he's really a Patriots kind of guy and will make up for last weeks mistakes.

If Edelman isn't really ready to play then why suit him up? Use Stanback - at least try him. He's not Moss but what few passes went his way he seemed to have a handle on.

BJGE is reported to be excellent at catching passes out of the backfied. And there's always the screen ... you now, the play they used to run 10 times a freakin' game.


This is pretty close to a must-win game ... going down to Houston and having to win to make post-season isn't what they want to be facing next week. Win this one, and then rest the starters. Don't even send 'em. Promote the entire Practice Squad for the week. Especially don't send Brady - let him rest his arm/shoulder/finger/rib/etc. so he stops under-throwing the ball.

There's noise about Taylor being active against his old team which would help for sure. Get him a game to get back on his feet, then 2 weeks rest before the WC game.

Posted: 12/23/2009 1:13 PM

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Dok, I'm not sold on Aiken's hands yet!!!

Yes, he's made a couple of great catches, but that's going to happen anyway!!

But he has had a couple of drops that have frustrated me as a loyal fan!!

Posted: 12/23/2009 1:58 PM

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Another matchup that heavily favors the Patriots.  Ignoring the fact that I feel the Jaguars are grossly overrated, southern teams historically struggle in cold weather.  Jacksonville's passing attack is fairly uninspiring and they have given up a ton of passing yards on defense.  Garrad is not going to beat the Patriots - all they need to do is limit the running game.  Pats by 10.

Last edited 12/23/2009 1:59 PM by stealthdog666

Posted: 12/23/2009 2:19 PM

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I wasn't sold on Aiken at the start of the season either. But he's made some good plays and shown potential I frankly didn't think he had. He's a physical receiver too - something they need since Moss is more of a finesse guy.

If the Pats O can keep it together they're golden - methodical, balanced offense - only go for the long ball when it's there. And if they open up a big lead, pull Brady in the 4th. The last thing we need is Del Rio's goons trying to take him out again.

I'd love to see Taylor play and have him and Maroney run for 300 yards combined.

Posted: 12/23/2009 2:52 PM

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I NEVER look at any game as "a given" - wasn't too long ago, "the Pats never lose two in a row". - Guess what happened?

Posted: 12/23/2009 8:15 PM

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For the Patriots

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Did not participate

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LB Tully Banta-Cain - not injury related
QB Tom Brady - right shoulder/right finger/rib
WR Randy Moss - not injury related

Limited participation

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WR Sam Aiken - shoulder
DE Jarvis Green - knee
T Nick Kaczur - shoulder
G Stephen Neal - ankle
DE Ty Warren - ankle
DT Vince Wilfork - foot

Full participation

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CB Leigh Bodden - thigh
WR Julian Edelman - forearm
DL Myron Pryor - chest
CB Shawn Springs - knee
RB Fred Taylor - ankle
TE Benjamin Watson - knee

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For the Jaguars

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Did not participate

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CB Rashean Mathis - groin

Limited participation
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DT John Henderson - shoulder

Posted: 12/24/2009 11:32 AM

Re: Jags - Patriots Official game 15 thread 


Seems like this is the case every week of every year for the Pats.  Their did not participate and limited participation lists have 10 to 20 guys listed on it while their opponent has 3.

This won't be an easy game.  The Pats need to keep MJD contained.  He usually gets lots of -3 to 3 yard runs but then he will break a couple.  They need to prevent that.  If they can keep improving the pass rush I think they can be ok against the pass.  Offensively, the Jags may be a lot better against the run than against the pass, but they have to use their RB's in this game and not be lining up 50 times from the shotgun.

Posted: 12/24/2009 12:46 PM

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The Pats win this game and then they can give Brady his own bye week next week.

Drew is a concern, but I think they can contain Garrard and the rest.

Posted: 12/24/2009 4:16 PM

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And  above all, Lets get a little creative and mix up the play calling.  Even Ratmanblowhole could read our Offense.  Its been way to predictable this year.

Posted: 12/24/2009 9:13 PM

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If the pats win and the chargers somehow lose. I would hope they play the last game of the season just as hard since they have a chance at the second seed if i am not mitaken if they win out and the chargers lose out. Hey a guy can dream cant he?
GinoC wrote: The Pats win this game and then they can give Brady his own bye week next week.

Drew is a concern, but I think they can contain Garrard and the rest.

Posted: 12/25/2009 7:58 PM

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SERIES HISTORY

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The Patriots and Jaguars will meet for the ninth time overall and for the first time since New England claimed a 31-20 victory in a Divisional Playoff game at Gillette Stadium on January 12, 2008. The Patriots have won all four of the regular-season games between the clubs. The two teams have faced each other four times in the playoffs, including the 1996 AFC Championship Game at Foxboro Stadium, a 20-6 New England win. The Patriots lead the Jaguars 3-1 in postseason games. The Jaguars will visit Foxborough for the sixth time overall, with the Patriots having won all five previous games against the team in New England. Two of the wins were in the regular-season and three were postseason wins. Three of the six previous games between the teams in Foxborough have been playoff games. The first playoff game was the 1996 AFC Championship Game at Foxboro Stadium. In that contest, the Patriots beat the Jaguars 20-6 to advance to Super Bowl XXXI. The Jaguars claimed a 25-10 win in the 1998 Wild Card playoffs. The Patriots won 28-3 in a 2005 Divisional Playoff game and 31-20 in a 2007 Divisional Playoff game.

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SERIES TRENDS

  • Overall Record (including 3-1 in playoffs), 7-1
    - Record in New England, 6-0 (3-0 in playoffs)
    - Foxboro Stadium, 2-0 (1-0 in playoffs)
    - Gillette Stadium, 4-0 (2-0 in playoffs)
  • Record in Jacksonville, 1-1 (0-1 in playoffs)
  • Total Points, Patriots 194, Jaguars 133
  • Patriots' Largest Margin of Victory, 25 points (01/07/06)
  • Patriots' Largest Margin of Defeat, 15 points (01/03/99)
  • Highest Combined Point Total, 53 points (09/22/96)
  • Lowest Combined Point Total, 26 (01/12/97)
  • Games Decided by Seven or Fewer Points, 1
  • Current Win Streak, Patriots, four games
  • Bill Belichick vs. Jacksonville, 4-2 (4-0 with New England)
  • Jack Del Rio vs. New England, 0-4
  • .

SOUTHERN HOSPITALITY

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The Patriots have an all-time record of 75-46-1 (.618) against the teams that make up the AFC South. It is the only division in the NFL where the Patriots own a winning record against each team. New England owns winning marks against Tennessee (22- 16-1), Indianapolis (44-29), Jacksonville (7-1) and Houston (2- 0).

Posted: 12/25/2009 8:32 PM

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As long as they still have Larry and Shemp calling the plays, I'll remain worried.

Posted: 12/26/2009 6:10 AM

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I thought Curly called the plays?

Well we don't have to worry about second seed. Win on Sunday and rest Brady next week.

Posted: 12/26/2009 12:34 PM

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I'm sorry, we absolutely CANNOT rest Brady next week. I have tickets, front row 50yard line visitor side. They cost me $700. Brady must play or BB will be hearing from me all game long.

Posted: 12/26/2009 12:42 PM

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Sorry TX at least it would help to keep you safe in the crowd.

Posted: 12/26/2009 1:28 PM

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GinoC wrote: I thought Curly called the plays?

Curly thought up "nyuk nyuk nyuk" ... I doubt Pees or O'Brien are as mentally adroit.

Posted: 12/26/2009 5:08 PM

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GinoC wrote: Sorry TX at least it would help to keep you safe in the crowd.

LOL. I would rather see Brady go out and drop 50 on the Texans and have to fight my way out of Reliant Stadium than to see him ride the pine and have to watch the Pats lose.

Posted: 12/27/2009 12:23 AM

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dokgonzo wrote: As long as they still have Larry and Shemp calling the plays, I'll remain worried.

I thought it was Moe and Curly.

Posted: 12/27/2009 4:02 AM

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Pees and O'Brien



Posted: 12/27/2009 5:56 AM

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They look like Vince McMahon.

Posted: 12/27/2009 5:33 PM

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So not only have we put up with mahroney underachieving and deeking and dancing other then running, we get to put up with him fumbling now?
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