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Official Game 14 thread Bills vs Patriots.

Posted: 12/15/2009 9:42 AM

Official Game 14 thread Bills vs Patriots. 


Nothing has changed except the names of the innocent in order to protect them. This is T.H.E. Official thread of game 14 between your New England Patriots vs Buffalo Bills.

Any comments, questions, thoughts and opinions...etc, etc belong in this thread. 

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May this be an injury FREE game!!!

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Posted: 12/15/2009 1:59 PM

Re: Official Game 14 thread Bills vs Patriots. 


I hope that O'Brien looks at the team stats page on nfl.com ... the Bills are the worst-ranked run defense in the league but the 5th best pass defense. If he comes out throwing on every down someone needs to chain a cinder block to his ankle and toss him into the lake.

 

Could be a big day for Maroney, Faulk, and Morris if they play it right.

Posted: 12/16/2009 8:53 AM

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dokgonzo wrote:

I hope that O'Brien looks at the team stats page on nfl.com ... the Bills are the worst-ranked run defense in the league but the 5th best pass defense. If he comes out throwing on every down someone needs to chain a cinder block to his ankle and toss him into the lake.

 

Could be a big day for Maroney, Faulk, and Morris if they play it right.


Yikez!! First road win for New England? Or is the trend Buffalo's friend?  

Posted: 12/16/2009 9:09 AM

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Where did BJGE go anyway? Just wondering. He has played so little i thought they might have cut him.

dokgonzo wrote:

I hope that O'Brien looks at the team stats page on nfl.com ... the Bills are the worst-ranked run defense in the league but the 5th best pass defense. If he comes out throwing on every down someone needs to chain a cinder block to his ankle and toss him into the lake.

 

Could be a big day for Maroney, Faulk, and Morris if they play it right.

 

Posted: 12/16/2009 11:49 AM

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He's still on the roster as far as I know. No idea why he isn't getting playing time. Same can be said for Stanback and Edelman.

 

OK ... lets be fair ... I can think of one O'Reason why he isn't playing ...

Posted: 12/17/2009 12:27 PM

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I think the reason is Maroney has been playing well, Morris is back and Faulk is still Faulk.  Divide up the 30 carries amongst those 3 and any left over go to BJGE.  I think Mike Reiss had BJGE in on 2 snaps last week.

For the game...The Bills always play the Pats tough.  No matter what.  If the Pats are balanced on offense this is a win.  If for some odd reason (Randy Moss needs his ego inflated) they pass 3 out of 4 plays this could be a disaster as the Bills have good DB's.

The game plan should be...Run on first down, Run on second down, Pass on 3 and more than 3 run on third and less than 3.  Sprinkle in some short passes (outs to Welke, screens to TE's and RB's). Do that for 2 long drives and then open up the third drive with play action and go deep...TD Randy Moss...Critics silenced...move on...win game.

Posted: 12/18/2009 10:29 AM

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Very, very interesting game Sunday. At stake, with a NEP loss is a three way tie for division lead, with Fins and Jesters. At stake for Buffalo is "pride" and nothing else.
The Bills can and know how to play defense. They will have near 80,000 fans on hand which, tends to make a difference.
Bulleted Points:
First downs rushing         1st.  place
Third down conversion    4th.  place
Interceptions                    1 st. place
Sacks (ouch)                    5 th. place
Sure appears that they have the mechanisms to raise havoc with an eratic offense. Don't look for Welker to grab another dozen or so balls. Who plays WR opposite RM? Hummmmmmmmmm??  Aiken should have played last week and did not which made double coverage on RM very e*z.. Gee, maybee they will utilize Watson and/or Baker this week. If it is necessary to use their talents in a blocking scheme again or, send them out on routes?
Anyone have the inside on RB's for Sunday? I see it as somewhat of a shame that they had a chance this year to further develop a BJGE, and chose not to.  Look at Buffalo's defensive stats and it seems unlikely the NEP will run it with the success and consistance they did last week.  
And finally, what starters sit this week due to non-practice or injury? 

Posted: 12/18/2009 11:45 AM

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I never take a Bills or a Fins game lightly, - they BOTH have played us tough plenty of times. This is NOT one we can afford to look past.

Posted: 12/18/2009 4:32 PM

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Tom Brady was back at work Friday morning, going through stretching as he and the rest of the Patriots prepared for their mid-day practice.

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Brady, who has shoulder, rib and finger concerns, did not practice on Wednesday and saw only limited participation Thursday. He looked fine as the players did their stretching in the brief time the session, held inside the stadium in frigid conditions, was open to the media.

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Among others, running back Fred Taylor, who has been out with an ankle injury and did not participate Thursday, was on the field doing work.

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The bad news for New England's defense is that neither Vince Wilfolk (foot) nor Ty Warren (ankle) was spotted. Neither has practice all week. Two of the offensive linemen, Nick Kaczur and Stephen Neal, were on the field.

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Yard Barker:

Posted: 12/18/2009 9:07 PM

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That sucks about Vince and Warren - the new guy they signed off the PS did OK last week, and this is the Bills, and Burgess actually made plays last week too, so they may do OK.

The question that I haven't even seen mentioned is: will AD play?

Posted: 12/19/2009 9:25 PM

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Too bad, it would be nice if the PATS had those guys; especially Warren and Wilfork. Kazur I could care less about but the others matter. Man, is it me or does it seem every year the PATS get hit with injuries to about 11 or 12 starters from both sides of the ball and it lingers on throughout the year?  It never fails, last year it was the running backs, Rodney, Brady and other key players. This year it's the same; just think if they could stay 60% healthy all year, they would have some continuaty and probably would win a couple more games.

Posted: 12/19/2009 9:44 PM

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Not only Wilfork and Warren, but Pryor is also out.  That doesn't leave many DL's left to use.  Brace better be ready to play.  And guys like TBC, Burgess, and dare I say it Adalius Thomas better get their noses dirty and help out the ends in both run defense and in the pass rush.  Of course they should be doing that anyway, injuries or not.

Posted: 12/19/2009 9:50 PM

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I'm also not bothered by Kaczur being out.  Vollmer can handle that job just fine.  Now if either Light or Vollmer get hurt during the game I'm not sure who they turn to. 

The one that does concern me is Neal being out again.  His backup Connolly has been awful from what I've seen.  The Pats really need to draft a guard this year, even more than they need a tackle.  Neal is always hurt and it shows when he is out.  There is no decent backup at guard right now.  And Neal is getting old anyway.

Posted: 12/19/2009 11:41 PM

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Well it doesn't affect the Pats season much, but the Saints are no longer un-defeated.

Now someone needs to beat Indy in the next couple weeks ... Jets or Bills ... ugh.

Posted: 12/20/2009 2:49 PM

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I'd like to thank the NFL and the officials for their early Xmas gifts to the Pats.  Totally unnecessary, but much appreciated nonetheless.

Posted: 12/20/2009 4:06 PM

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Only got to see a few minutes in the 3rd, but the stat that really jumps out at me (other than TBC's 3 sacks) is Burgess was the leading tackler, and got a sack. That Snow Day seemed to have made a difference in his intensity. Afalius, however, is another matter ...

Posted: 12/20/2009 4:16 PM

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Jets and Dolphins both lost.  The Titans sure tried to give the Dolphins the game after having a big lead but they pulled it out in OT.

Posted: 12/20/2009 4:20 PM

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Sanchez with 3 INT's ... send Rex some hankies.

Pats can clinch next week at home against the Jags and then use the road game at Houston to rest the walking wounded.

Posted: 12/20/2009 4:53 PM

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Another 1 PM game, - only got to see about the last five minutes. That 3rd down pass to Welker (who else) for the first down at the end, - was kinda important, nice to see.

Posted: 12/20/2009 10:19 PM

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One thing I don't like seeing in the stats is that Brady basically only hit Moss and Welker. No catches for the TE's or any other WR. You can get away with that against Buffalo, but not in the playoffs.

Damn shame the Steelers won.

Raiders beat the Broncos by 1 ... Broncos needed that game to more or less ensure a playoff berth.

Posted: 12/21/2009 11:04 AM

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The offensive scheme is terrible.I agree about the TEs, we have gotten nothing out of them!The defense had a pass rush but its against Buffalo.If our CBs cant play man coverage when they cant get no pressure, then we might as well blitz.

Posted: 12/21/2009 12:18 PM

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The defense played pretty well.  I had posted in another forum last week that they should do the whole...1 man down everyone else up tactic.  Apparently they read my post. wink

 

The offense was pretty pedestrian but the running game was good.  I think a little too much was made of taking "shots to Randy".

 

Time to get ready for Jacksonville.

Posted: 12/21/2009 2:41 PM

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Hunter07 wrote: Another 1 PM game, - only got to see about the last five minutes. That 3rd down pass to Welker (who else) for the first down at the end, - was kinda important, nice to see.
It was the play of the game -- or at least teh second half. 

The Patriots had a tough outing before that on offense.  Why they didn't try more screens or short passes to Faulk, Welker, Edelman... is a curiosity. 

Those long passes, like the one to Aiken, are killing the offense after forcing the team to 3-and-out.  Not sure if that's Brady's injury(ies) hurting his aim, or something else.

Posted: 12/21/2009 3:44 PM

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This game reminded me of the 2001 team - didn't do much on offense, but played pretty good defense.  We have been spoiled with blowouts the last couple of years.  But when the Patriots were winning Superbowls, they were winning a bunch of close games.  As much as the offensive playcalling was still uninspiring, the performance of the team looked good to me.

Posted: 12/21/2009 4:08 PM

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KACZUR WAS YOUR BEST LINEMAN LAST  YEAR .HE PLAYED HURT ALL YEAR, AND HE PROBABLY DOE'NT CAR ABOUT YOU EITHER