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Eagles trade WR Lewis to Patriots

Posted: 3/5/2009 3:38 PM

Eagles trade WR Lewis to Patriots 


http://blogs.nfl.com/category/adam-schefter/

Per Adam Schefter's Blog. He doesn't have the terms of the deal yet.

Posted: 3/5/2009 3:55 PM

Re: Eagles trade WR Lewis to Patriots 


I sure hope they didn't give up much for him.  I'd say give them that draft pick that the Chiefs gave us for Vrabel.  That should do it.  The guy has 32 catches the last two seasons combined.

Posted: 3/5/2009 4:05 PM

Re: Eagles trade WR Lewis to Patriots 


Lewis is going to be an excellent #3 guy here, but he isn't worth a 2nd rounder... I'd hope we gave them no more than a 4th for him...

I think he's a great fit for the #3... He can stretch the field and make some plays...

Posted: 3/5/2009 4:13 PM

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I thnk hell do good here, how many times have we seen medioker wide recivers come to new england and be good. (Rashee Caldwell, Jabar Gaffeney, Wes Welker)

Posted: 3/5/2009 4:18 PM

Re: Eagles trade WR Lewis to Patriots 



osubucks221979 wrote: Lewis is going to be an excellent #3 guy here, but he isn't worth a 2nd rounder... I'd hope we gave them no more than a 4th for him...

I think he's a great fit for the #3... He can stretch the field and make some plays...

I meant the pick we got for Vrabel, not the one we got for Cassel.  That would be nothing.  If we can't get a pick for Vrabel who is a far better player than Greg Lewis, then we shouldn't have to give up a pick for Lewis.

Posted: 3/5/2009 4:28 PM

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Yeah, that's about what he's worth TN. I hope this deal is just for a conditional 7th rounder that is contingent on him making the final roster.

Posted: 3/5/2009 4:28 PM

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Gotcha... Looks like according to Mike Reiss we got Lewis and an undisclosed pick in 2010 for our 5th rounder this year...

Not a bad trade... I think BB has wanted this guy... He's performed well against us in the past...

Last edited 3/5/2009 4:29 PM by osubucks221979

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Posted: 3/5/2009 4:28 PM

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And i love his salaries... 3 years left and about 700K/ years.
www.eaglescap.com/Players/GregLewis.html

Posted: 3/5/2009 4:32 PM

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5th rounder? Crap.

Posted: 3/5/2009 4:34 PM

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chrism wrote: 5th rounder? Crap.
Plus we get a pick next year too...

Last edited 3/5/2009 4:34 PM by osubucks221979

Posted: 3/5/2009 4:36 PM

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There's a great chance we are getting 3 compensatory picks, so I don't care so much about dealing picks in rounds 5-7 this year... We aren't going to use them all anyways, and if we deal our 5th rounder for essentially 2 players (Lewis and a guy in '10), then I think that's a good use... Especially since Lewis IMO will contribute here...

Posted: 3/5/2009 4:38 PM

Re: Eagles trade WR Lewis to Patriots 



chrism wrote: 5th rounder? Crap.


Well, crap is what the Pats have drafted in the 5th round the last two years, so I guess they figure they'll just flush that pick early this year.

They got an undisclosed pick back from Philly but it's a safe bet that it is lower than a fifth rounder because they wouldn't give us a 4th rounder plus Lewis in exchange for a fifth rounder, would they?  That would be like paying us to take him off their hands.

 

Maybe I shouldn't be too hard on the guy before he even suits up.  It's possible he could be an adequate 3rd or 4th WR, but if the guy can't even get on the field and catch more than 16 or so passes on a team that's really hurting for wideouts, it doesn't give me really high expectations.

Posted: 3/5/2009 4:42 PM

Re: Eagles trade WR Lewis to Patriots 



TNPatsFan wrote:

Maybe I shouldn't be too hard on the guy before he even suits up.  It's possible he could be an adequate 3rd or 4th WR, but if the guy can't even get on the field and catch more than 16 or so passes on a team that's really hurting for wideouts, it doesn't give me really high expectations.

They are a WC offense there, which asks the WR's to run different types of routes... We run a different type of system here... We'll use him more like we did Gaffney, which is what Lewis is best at (running deep routes)...

Posted: 3/5/2009 4:50 PM

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His cheap contract makes him worth trying, but I hope they're not done with the position.  They need a starter opposite Moss to keep the safeties honest and I don't think Lewis is it.  I'd like to see another free agent and hopefully at least one draft choice used on a WR.

 

Frankly, I'd rather have Joey Galloway than Greg Lewis.

Posted: 3/5/2009 4:54 PM

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Im pretty sure that WEEI just said we are giving up and a 3rd this year and that the Eagles website is saying the 2010 pick is a 7th rounder. I could have heard it wrong but Im pretty sure thats what they said.

Last edited 3/5/2009 4:58 PM by bceagles24

Posted: 3/5/2009 6:03 PM

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It seems to be a 5th from the Pats and per the Eagles site a 7th going back in '10. Not much.  But he should be equivalent to Gaffney.

Last edited 3/5/2009 6:05 PM by GinoC

Posted: 3/5/2009 9:11 PM

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BB is supposed to be pretty high on this guy's route-running - if he can fill the Gaffney role, without the Caldwell Moments, its a good move.

Posted: 3/5/2009 9:23 PM

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I believe Lewis is faster than Gaffney. They needed the 3rd receiver to be a deep threat.

Posted: 3/5/2009 10:11 PM

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From what I have seen it is a 5th rounder with the Patriots getting Seattle's 7th round pick next year.  At that point (end of the 5th round) you are reaching for guys anyways.  I imagine he will contribute more than a 5th rounder would, assuming the 5th rounder would even make the team.

Posted: 3/6/2009 7:30 AM

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osubucks221979 wrote:
TNPatsFan wrote:

Maybe I shouldn't be too hard on the guy before he even suits up.  It's possible he could be an adequate 3rd or 4th WR, but if the guy can't even get on the field and catch more than 16 or so passes on a team that's really hurting for wideouts, it doesn't give me really high expectations.

They are a WC offense there, which asks the WR's to run different types of routes... We run a different type of system here... We'll use him more like we did Gaffney, which is what Lewis is best at (running deep routes)...
West Coast Offense = "A play on words" and little more.  I see it as more of an "Air-It-Out" offense. Brady in 2007 ? Can we coin a new one "East Coast Offense" ?

Wides, Oh man here we go again. How does that plug our known weaknesses? In the season 2007, New England had Stallworth and gave, at least me, the impression they swept him under the rug. Rumors crept out orf camp that he was having a difficult time adjusting and learning the system. One and done. What did NE get for him?

TN ~ You raise legitimate questions and concerns about his most recent pedigree.  Will be interesting to see what NE has valued him at. Vet min??

Posted: 3/6/2009 8:30 AM

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That was with MC D. Now that he is gone who know's what we will get. I imagine that it will be more like a ball control, run the ball type offense this year. Depending on who we get as the new OC, the offense will not be as good as it has been the last few years.

Posted: 3/6/2009 8:59 AM

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Agreed vinny, with McD gone and TB coming back from injury hopefully we see them establish the run and the work the passing game into the mix to keep defenses honest so they can't blitz every down as it seems they have done the last couple of years.

Posted: 3/10/2009 4:44 PM

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By the way to answer an earlier questons New England did not get anything for Stallworth. I don't think they used him correctly either. Meaning did not go to him enough. He was free a few times. 

Anyway back to the subject of this thread Lewis.

What does the boared think of him. I have to look up his height /weight and speed unless someone already has it. I think he is suppose to be fast is that correct?  

Posted: 3/11/2009 4:54 AM

Re: Eagles trade WR Lewis to Patriots 


" Patriots acquire Eagles WR Lewis: Veteran wide receiver Greg Lewis was traded by Philadelphia to New England for a draft pick Thursday, giving the Patriots some added depth. The Eagles received a fifth-round pick from the Patriots, who also get Philadelphia's seventh-round pick in 2010, a person familiar with the trade told The Associated Press.
(Updated 03/05/2009). "

Source: CBS Sports

2008: 19 catches for 247 yards. Hummmmmmm. Who were McNab's targets in Philly last year? This guy could be a sleeper. With those numbers he can't be on anybody's radar screen. Can he catch the ball? Hands? Speed?
New England drafter Matt Slater in the 5TH. Round last year, a WR out of UCLA. On the surface this appears to have been one of their better deals so far this off-season. (Leave the Geritol in the medicine cabinet for now)
Oo Lord.....what do my non-trained eyes continue to see? 


By th way.............have you heard the news?? 

TOM BRADY WILL BE BACK NEXT YEAR AND HE WILL BRING HELL WITH HIM. 

Posted: 3/11/2009 8:37 AM

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Is he a speed receiver? Damn Matt Slater... still wondering why they moved up to get him..
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Posted: 3/11/2009 10:51 AM

Re: Eagles trade WR Lewis to Patriots 


I think this is a decent pick up, considering we took Jabar Gaffney off the streets when the same Eagles team cut him. He did well in the Pats system with little time. I think this pickup will pay off, and let's not forget, Wes Welker was very underrated in Miami, but did well against the Pats...they went out and got him, and now he's doing extremely well for the Pats. So I wouldn't underestimate Greg Lewis as a contributor to this offense just yet. He'll contribute more than Chad Jackson, that's for sure

Last edited 3/11/2009 10:52 AM by prat3t

Posted: 3/11/2009 11:00 AM

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Morpheus11 wrote: Is he a speed receiver? Damn Matt Slater... still wondering why they moved up to get him..
Yes, Morph, Lewis is considered a speed guy... 6-0, 180... Averaged over 14 ypc in 3 of his 6 seasons and 13 ypc last season...

I'm willing to bet BB has liked him for awhile now... I also believe that we have someone in Player Personnel now that worked with the Eagles the last several years... I'm sure his opinion was taken into account as well...

Posted: 3/11/2009 12:19 PM

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I read somewhere that BB described Lewis's as a "tactician" as a route-runner. Which is what they want from a #3 WR - someone who'll be where he's supposed to be and where Brady needs him to be, based on how the play progresses. With McD screweing up ... er ... running the Broncos now, that hopefully means the Pats start spreading the ball around like they used to and Lewis can have a great first season.

Posted: 3/11/2009 2:32 PM

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osubucks221979 wrote:
Morpheus11 wrote: Is he a speed receiver? Damn Matt Slater... still wondering why they moved up to get him..
Yes, Morph, Lewis is considered a speed guy... 6-0, 180... Averaged over 14 ypc in 3 of his 6 seasons and 13 ypc last season...

I'm willing to bet BB has liked him for awhile now... I also believe that we have someone in Player Personnel now that worked with the Eagles the last several years... I'm sure his opinion was taken into account as well...

Thanks OSU. That's what I thought. He has been linked to be a good route runner but I remembered him for the speed. IMO the Patriots need the third receiver to stretch the field to open up thinks for the other playmakers Moss and Welker. But having another safety net (aka receiver who know where the chains are and will run the routes he is suppose to) will not hurt.