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Re: Peppers??

  • stuheel
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Posted: 3/4/2009 1:56 AM

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Peppers would make the Patriots D down right scary! He would immediately vault the team defense to #1 in the NFL. He is as fast as most all OLB in the 3-4 allignment and would bring size never before seen at the position. He is capable of playing in coverage, run stuffing in the interior, or his traditional outside pass rush. Can you imagine Thomas, Mayo, and Peppers roaming around and never knowing for sure who is coming? He was used in a vanilla scheme in Carolina which limited his versatility. He is an absolute freak of an athlete. Watch out for absolute domination if this deal takes place. Giving up the 23 and 32 overall picks would be a steal. Perhaps not as good as Moss for a 4th, but a steal none the less.

Posted: 3/4/2009 2:21 AM

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osubucks221979 wrote: ^^Keep dreaming... You're not going to get 4 picks for Peppers from anyone... Not with how much it will cost to sign him...

Couldn't say it better myself.

Posted: 3/4/2009 3:15 AM

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Like with Moss a couple years ago, Peppers coming to the Pats will involve him making a big decision: does he want to win a SB before the end of the decade, or does he want to "get paid?" The Pats will make a competitive offer if they're interested, but they're not going to go all Haynesworth.

Posted: 3/4/2009 6:57 AM

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stuheel wrote: Peppers would make the Patriots D down right scary! He would immediately vault the team defense to #1 in the NFL. He is as fast as most all OLB in the 3-4 allignment and would bring size never before seen at the position. He is capable of playing in coverage, run stuffing in the interior, or his traditional outside pass rush. Can you imagine Thomas, Mayo, and Peppers roaming around and never knowing for sure who is coming? He was used in a vanilla scheme in Carolina which limited his versatility. He is an absolute freak of an athlete. Watch out for absolute domination if this deal takes place. Giving up the 23 and 32 overall picks would be a steal. Perhaps not as good as Moss for a 4th, but a steal none the less.

stuheel ~ What 'chu takin, boy, and kan i'vee some..............

Posted: 3/4/2009 10:56 AM

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usernameNEP wrote:
stuheel wrote: Peppers would make the Patriots D down right scary! He would immediately vault the team defense to #1 in the NFL. He is as fast as most all OLB in the 3-4 allignment and would bring size never before seen at the position. He is capable of playing in coverage, run stuffing in the interior, or his traditional outside pass rush. Can you imagine Thomas, Mayo, and Peppers roaming around and never knowing for sure who is coming? He was used in a vanilla scheme in Carolina which limited his versatility. He is an absolute freak of an athlete. Watch out for absolute domination if this deal takes place. Giving up the 23 and 32 overall picks would be a steal. Perhaps not as good as Moss for a 4th, but a steal none the less.

stuheel ~ What 'chu takin, boy, and kan i'vee some..............

kan i'vee some too?

Posted: 3/4/2009 12:57 PM

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Morpheus11 wrote:
usernameNEP wrote:
stuheel wrote: Peppers would make the Patriots D down right scary! He would immediately vault the team defense to #1 in the NFL. He is as fast as most all OLB in the 3-4 allignment and would bring size never before seen at the position. He is capable of playing in coverage, run stuffing in the interior, or his traditional outside pass rush. Can you imagine Thomas, Mayo, and Peppers roaming around and never knowing for sure who is coming? He was used in a vanilla scheme in Carolina which limited his versatility. He is an absolute freak of an athlete. Watch out for absolute domination if this deal takes place. Giving up the 23 and 32 overall picks would be a steal. Perhaps not as good as Moss for a 4th, but a steal none the less.

stuheel ~ What 'chu takin, boy, and kan i'vee some..............

kan i'vee some too?
Easy fellas, he is a Tarheel fan!  Those guys are a little delusional, and they take that delusion with them to root for their NFL joke of a team!  I may be the only Pats fan to say this, but I believe I would rather just pass on Peppers.  I think we would be better served bringing in some high dollar DB that could improve the secondary.

Posted: 3/4/2009 1:07 PM

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Right now I would say neither is going to happen. The Patriots from what I was told have only about 9 million under the cap. They still need money to sign draft choices.

Posted: 3/4/2009 1:09 PM

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If by delusional do you mean stomping NC State every year? Actually, that is fact.

LOL

Posted: 3/4/2009 1:14 PM

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Morpheus11 wrote: Right now I would say neither is going to happen. The Patriots from what I was told have only about 9 million under the cap. They still need money to sign draft choices.
That number can't be right Morph... We just freed up 18 mill with the MC/MV deal... We had enough money before that to sign both Taylor and Baker... The Sanders deal is the only one coming off the new money, and he's not using up 9 mill...

Posted: 3/4/2009 1:25 PM

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osubucks221979 wrote:
Morpheus11 wrote: Right now I would say neither is going to happen. The Patriots from what I was told have only about 9 million under the cap. They still need money to sign draft choices.
That number can't be right Morph... We just freed up 18 mill with the MC/MV deal... We had enough money before that to sign both Taylor and Baker... The Sanders deal is the only one coming off the new money, and he's not using up 9 mill...

It was an insider that told me. I'll have to check with him again. I too was suprised at the amount left. If I remember he mentioned Baker. I'll have to check again.

Posted: 3/16/2009 2:49 PM

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Patriots appear primed to trade for Peppers for the 34th pick from the Cassel trade.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?...mp;confirm=true

 

Posted: 3/16/2009 2:52 PM

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If that's all they have to give up for him, then that's a great move.  I would still be worried about how much they would have to pay him though.

Posted: 3/16/2009 2:54 PM

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Wow....I'd imagine they'd have a window to renegotiate a contract.

Posted: 3/16/2009 3:01 PM

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I have mixed feelings about this because their are still questions (to my mind) about whether BB can play OLB. But if BB is convinced and you take that out of the equation, then this is great news. I was afraid the needed compensation would be a lot more. The contract Peppers gets is still a big issue, of course.

If they can do this and get an impact ILB at #23 (which that article suggests could be the target there), then BB will have rebuilt almost the entire LB corps in two years.

It's funny because I (half jokingly) suggested a Cassell-for-Peppers trade a month or two ago when Peppers first started talking about wanting to play in a 3-4. If this trade goes down that's essentially what it will have been (with the addition of KC as an intermediary and, of course, Vrabel thrown in).

Posted: 3/16/2009 3:21 PM

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I just saw on the ticker on ESPN that this trade went through, does anyone have a confirmation?

Posted: 3/16/2009 3:38 PM

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It looks like jsagan77 is a Redskins fan who originally posted this on the Redskins board before bringing it here. On the Redskins board he has already retracted it with the following post:

"Ok that's weird now it's not there... If anyone sees it again let me know, thanks...

Just saw it again and now it says "Close to securing a trade" "


Not sure why he didn't come here to say the same thing, but there you go. No trade has gone through at this time as far as any one can tell.

Posted: 3/16/2009 3:54 PM

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I have not clue what he is talking about. As far as I can tell there is nothing in the works but I'll check it out anyway on their website.

Posted: 3/16/2009 4:01 PM

Patriots appear primed to make a deal with Panthers for Peppers 


The trade that sent Matt Cassel and Mike Vrabel to the Kansas City Chiefs appears to be only the first phase of some major wheeling and dealing by the New England Patriots this offseason.

The second phase, NFL sources say, is likely to involve a trade that would send Carolina Panthers defensive end Julius Peppers to the Patriots in exchange for the second-round pick (34th overall) they received from the Chiefs on Feb. 28.

Click here for the rest:

Posted: 3/16/2009 4:04 PM

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Yes, that's the story that was linked by stealthdog at the top of the page.

Posted: 3/16/2009 4:12 PM

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I'll check out ESPN and NFL Network as well as listen to WEEI when I get home. In the meantime I'll make some calls and see if I can get in touch with anyone.

Posted: 3/16/2009 4:16 PM

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There's no way we would ever trade Peppers and our #1 pick of last year for a 40 year old TE and Waters.  Absolutely insane.

Posted: 3/16/2009 4:20 PM

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joedevil wrote: There's no way we would ever trade Peppers and our #1 pick of last year for a 40 year old TE and Waters.  Absolutely insane.
The discussion has now shifted to the link at the top of page 2 joe... Vic Carucci is reporting there may be a deal in place that sends Peppers to New England for the 34th pick in the draft...

Posted: 3/16/2009 4:55 PM

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Carucci was on EEI...Says Carolina values the #34 more than a first rounder since it's lower cost / more control.  This has been in the works since the Cassel deal.  Also says Peppers realizes he won't get a Haynesworth-like contract, but likes the Pats chances to win so he'd renegotiate on a more rreasonable deal.


He also said Cutler will be traded and Quinn (plus) makes some sense

Last edited 3/16/2009 4:57 PM by GinoC

Posted: 3/16/2009 5:04 PM

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joedevil wrote: There's no way we would ever trade Peppers and our #1 pick of last year for a 40 year old TE and Waters.  Absolutely insane.
Joe you should take time to read the article first then you will see how far off your statement was dude.

Posted: 3/16/2009 5:23 PM

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Man, they story that had no legs, or reasonable chance to go through just picked up a big head of steam eh?

34th Pick for Peppers at a renegotiated contract seems like a no brainer as terms of a deal to get him to the Pats.

My only concern is just how well he will play in the Pats scheme (pretty much the same as what VC Said in the article). If he really is just used in passing downs, he better not be getting a blockbuster contract.

Posted: 3/16/2009 5:28 PM

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I don't think the article said he'd only be in on passing downs...I thought it said he would play DE on passing downs (allowing Seymour to move inside and Wilfork to get off the field) and OLB the rest of the time.

Posted: 3/16/2009 5:40 PM

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" According to league sources, the Patriots and Panthers are hoping to complete the deal at some point between the March 22-25 NFL owners meetings and the start of the draft on April 25.

Peppers, on whom the Panthers have placed a franchise tag that assures him of a one-year contract worth $16.68 million, would be converted to outside linebacker in New England's 3-4 defense. "

Source: NFL.com 

Posted: 3/16/2009 5:52 PM

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One thing about this I don't like. The story leaked a week before it's scheduled to close. This gives Panther fans a chance to shame their front office and other teams a chance to get into the mix. Imagine if we had all found out about the Vrabel/Cassel deal for a second round pick a week before it actually happened. Not only would many Pats fans/media loudly question the move but other teams may well have come in to make us a better offer. I guarrantee this leak didn't come out of NE.

That being said, if BB pulls it off we are primed for one heck of a season.

Posted: 3/16/2009 6:03 PM

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i would love to have peppers on the team but only for the right price, and the guy is'nt worth any wheres near 2 first rounders. As mcuh as the pats need a guy to fill that position i dont think hes worth it. I do think they will eventually pick someone up via free agency just someone they can get for less money.

Posted: 3/16/2009 6:40 PM

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When I saw it it said Breaking News: "The Pats trade #34 pick to Panthers for DE Julius Peppers" then it didn't appear for a minute or two and came back with so and so reports that a deal may be imminent between the Pats and Panthers blah, blah blah....

Didn't think I needed come here if it was on ESPN... Sorry for the confusion... It's not the first time that has happened though.... haha
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