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Confirmed: Wilfork Fined, but not suspended

Posted: 10/28/2008 1:39 PM

Confirmed: Wilfork Fined, but not suspended 


Rumor floating out that Wilfork is visiting with the Commish today regarding an elbow he threw at Jay Cutler's head after a play. The elbow was not caught on the TV broadcast, but the league reviews the coaches tapes.

Generally meetings like this result in a suspension. Stupid Stupid Stupid.

Be intense, be physical, but don't be dirty and cost your team.

Last edited 10/29/2008 11:20 AM by Vabthang5

Posted: 10/28/2008 1:46 PM

RE: Wilfork Suspension Coming? 


Sadly, it seemed to be only a matter of time for Vince. He's a great player and a huge part of our D, but he has a tendency to go to far. Plays like the elbow at Cutler's head and stabbing his finger through Brandon Jacobs's facemask in week 17 last year just hurt the team.

Posted: 10/28/2008 2:31 PM

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If true, - completely stupid, and totally thoughtless. The team isn't missing enough players already, - we need to add another one????

Posted: 10/28/2008 6:01 PM

Wilfork Faces Possible Suspension 


Vince Wilfork Faces Possible Suspension

Vince Wilfork
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Posted Oct 28, 2008


Patriots Defensive lineman Vince Wilfork is in the news again, but this time not for something good. Wilfork apparently is being accused of throwing an elbow to the head of Broncos QB Jay Cutler...


It had to come sometime, the league catching up with some of the questionable hits that is. The latest culprit appears to be Patriot nose tackle Vince Wilfork, who allegedly threw an elbow to the head of Denver Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler in New England's 41-7 victory two weeks ago. Wilfork and his agent are in New York meeting with Commissioner Roger Goodell today, and will address the hit in their discussion.

According to reports, Wilfork allegedly threw the elbow to Cutler's head in their October 20 meeting. The move was not caught by the television broadcast, but on the coach's film. The Broncos sent the film to the league for review, resulting in the meeting with Goodell.

Controversy is not new to Wilfork or his elbow when the league fined the Patriots nose tackle $12,000 for a hit on Buffalo Bills quarterback J.P. Losman. The injury forced Losman out of the lineup and could be considered the catalyst for their impressive turnaround as then rookie Trent Edwards took over.

Wilfork is probably better known for the poke in the eye of Giants running back Brandon Jacobs last season. New England's defender was fined $15,000 for the infraction and he was forced him to defend his play to the public via the media this off-season.

Should Wilfork miss any action, the Patriots will need Mike Wright and Le Kevin Smith to step in while the former first round pick out of Miami is unavailable.

Last edited 10/28/2008 6:04 PM by JSinCT

Posted: 10/28/2008 6:04 PM

Re: Wilfork Faces Possible Suspension 



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Posted: 10/28/2008 6:05 PM

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BB says that a review of the tape reveals that no contact was made (espn is reporting).












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Posted: 10/28/2008 6:15 PM

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Wilfork is a very good defensive lineman, but there is no question he is one of the dirtiest players in the league. A lot of the players do it, but Wilfork's name seems to be coming up a lot when dirty plays are discussed. I wonder how much Wilfork does on his own. By saying that, I am just curious ( no facts at all here just wondering ) if he is asked to be a little more dirty by the coaching staff. Again, I have no basis here, just wondering. Keep in mind that Rodney Harrison has been named the dirtiest player in the league by other players for three years running ( I think three anyway ) so it definitely isn't just Wolfork.
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Posted: 10/28/2008 6:29 PM

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Jimbothekid wrote: I am just curious ( no facts at all here just wondering ) if he is asked to be a little more dirty by the coaching staff. Again, I have no basis here, just wondering.



what a typically stupid and vacuous post.
and, unlike you, i have facts to make my case (see above quote).

seriously, jimbo, why not troll elsewhere?
(methinks we are being trolled by an impostor here, folks. there is no way this guy writes for scout)










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Last edited 10/28/2008 6:43 PM by thepylons

Posted: 10/28/2008 6:39 PM

Re: Wilfork Suspension Coming? 


Just wondering Jimbo, - do you actually watch any of the games? Now I don't have the the facts here, - kinda curious though. Do you personally know, (just curious) any of the Pats coaching staff??? Do you know if they'd do that - for a FACT??? Now I don't  have any info on it, - so I thought you might.  Just a few "thoughts to throw out there" - you know, to get folks going down my trail, and see if I can stir something up.

Last edited 10/28/2008 6:41 PM by Hunter07

Posted: 10/28/2008 6:57 PM

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Jimbo does an awful lot of "wondering" about things he doesn't know, but that would definitely create negative press for the Pats if they were in fact true.

Posted: 10/28/2008 9:56 PM

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Decision could be tomorow

"an NFL official said there would be no disciplinary action announced tonight," NFL.com reported this evening. 

"it could be Wednesday," the report continued.


Both Larry Johnson and Vince Wilfork met with the Commissioner.  Both players will learn of their punishment -- if any -- soon.

Posted: 10/28/2008 10:26 PM

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Gee ... where was the commissioner when Bobby Wade took out Rodney's knee? Nowhere. If Goodell finds against Wilfork BB should put someone on staff to review game film just for the purpose of submitting a dozen complaints a week.

Posted: 10/28/2008 10:49 PM

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Wilfork is a high profile high preformace player.  you can say he is a dirty player but the fact he is so effective with the job he does, it also means he gets alot more attention from opposing players and coaches.  I cant believe he is the only player who plays dirty or is accussed of it anyway.

JP looooserman as I remember was a momentum thing on Wilforks part.  You dont just stop 320 pounds on a dime..   Wilforks problem is he plays full till boogy all game long.  Poor Jay Culter.  I felt bad for the guy when he hurt is finger but then he went to the side lines and cryed all day.  Let the players play.

I remember in High School I had a kid stomp down on my forarm and his cleats took out gobs of tissue.  I ended up with a mess of stiches and I could have sworn the kid did it on purpose.  He had a reputation for dirty play.  We dont go whining about it though.  Cant do it.  The babes will look at you and claim your a girlyman.  Just kidding.

Wilfork plays with passion.  Its not a dirty attitude that results in dirty play. Toughen up dude.  Its football.

Posted: 10/29/2008 5:09 AM

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Jimbo just curious where did you learn how to write, the New England Tractor Trailor School?

Posted: 10/29/2008 5:26 AM

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This is incredible. It is amazing that someone isn't allowed to post an opinion here without getting insulted by everyone else. I am not a troll, as my good friend Pylons would indicate. I do watch the games ( considering I have season tickets ) and I do not know any of the coaching staff ( though I know some people who do). I have NO FACTS about anything I said , as I stated in the original post. It was simply a comment. I guess I am not allowed to share those in these forums. Wilfork continues to make dirty plays and commit personal fouls that cost the team. That is a fact. And the play that knocked out Losman was as dirty as it gets. Wilfork was falling, and threw his elbow into Losman's knee as he was doing so. Totally unnecessary, but I agree these things happen due to the nature of the sport. Now I have to get back to my job at the New England Tractor Trailer Training School before I am late for work.

Posted: 10/29/2008 7:27 AM

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No doubt Wilfork has done some dumb things...the hit on Lossman was about as blatant as the hit on Brady.  It wasn't. He was tripped into Lossman.  How does a 300 lb man alter his tragectory in mid air?  You are not objective, you are negative. 

As for writing, my second grader knows more about grammar.  Heaven forbid you drive an 18 wheeler.

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Posted: 10/29/2008 8:41 AM

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Jimbothekid wrote: I am not a troll



guilty.













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Last edited 10/29/2008 8:42 AM by thepylons

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Posted: 10/29/2008 9:19 AM

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No, I am not posting as " jimbo the kid." 


 ( for the record, lol. )



I do remember a game - Miami /Fla.State where I was amazed at this player named Wilfork on Miami who was throwing everybody around all game.
I thought what a dirty player.


Of course when the Pats drafted him later, I jumped right on board with Wilfork.




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Posted: 10/29/2008 9:22 AM

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"This is incredible. It is amazing that someone isn't allowed to post an opinion here without getting insulted by everyone else. I am not a troll, as my good friend Pylons would indicate. I do watch the games ( considering I have season tickets ) and I do not know any of the coaching staff ( though I know some people who do). I have NO FACTS about anything I said , as I stated in the original post. It was simply a comment. I guess I am not allowed to share those in these forums"


Jimbo, you are more than welcome to share your opinions. You shot yourself in the foot on these boards.

This is all backlash from when you first started posting here and basically told everyone that because you 'write' for scout that your opinion matters more than the rest of us.

What do you expect a group of people to do after you took "a holier than thou, you do not matter but i do" stance?

Posted: 10/29/2008 9:29 AM

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PFT is now reporting that Wilfork is going to be fined and not suspended.

I think their source is pretty solid, considering PFT broke the news that Wilfork was going to have the meeting in the first place.

Posted: 10/29/2008 10:43 AM

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Jimbo, - you brought this reaction on yourself, as Vab pointed out. "Just wondering" if Wilfork had been "kinda told" to play dirty by a coach - without having a bit of information or reason. Just kinda "throwing some seeds" into the wind - for the hell of it.

Last edited 10/29/2008 10:46 AM by Hunter07

Posted: 10/29/2008 11:22 AM

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The Globe is collaborating PFT's story that Wilfork will not be suspended.

I have said it before, profootballtalk.com is the best source of nfl news on the internet. They provide a clearing house of story lines and get the occasional scope from some unnamed sources (such as this Wilfork story).

Posted: 10/29/2008 1:38 PM

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Jimbothekid wrote: Wilfork is a very good defensive lineman, but there is no question he is one of the dirtiest players in the league. A lot of the players do it, but Wilfork's name seems to be coming up a lot when dirty plays are discussed. I wonder how much Wilfork does on his own. By saying that, I am just curious ( no facts at all here just wondering ) if he is asked to be a little more dirty by the coaching staff. Again, I have no basis here, just wondering. Keep in mind that Rodney Harrison has been named the dirtiest player in the league by other players for three years running ( I think three anyway ) so it definitely isn't just Wolfork.
Wondering is fun, isn't it?  I am thinking of a play where ((fill in Patriots player's name here)) was pushed out of bounds and bumped into a cheerleader who tumbled to the ground.  He then didn't even offer to help her up.  I can't help wondering if this was just an accident or if he is a wife beater.  His name "seems to be coming up a lot" when some unnamed people discuss players who don't help fallen cheerleaders off the ground after a play.

Posted: 10/29/2008 2:30 PM

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Quote from the story on ESPN. Along with the link.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/...tory?id=3670583

Wilfork was summoned before Goodell after the Broncos claimed tape of New England's 41-7 win Oct. 20 showed Wilfork elbowing Cutler in the helmet.

However, the tapes that were reviewed during the hearing did not show that clearly, upholding the Patriots' contention there was no intent to injure. They also showed Wilfork helping up Cutler and patting him on the back after the play.

Posted: 10/29/2008 4:35 PM

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It's funny Gino, that you tell me your second grader has better grammar than I do. Well, apparently he is a better speller than you are. First of all, it is LOSMAN, not Lossman, and trajectory is spelled with a j and not a g. So before you go and try to rip me, make sure your posts are spelled correctly and are grammatically accurate.
  Pylons, you can insist I am a troll all you want, but it is not true. You can insist all you want, but your posts are getting more and more tiring.
   Vabthang, I never took a holier than thou approach, nor did I ever insist that I was necessarily right and others were wrong. What I was giving was my opinion, and others chose to question me and rip ( and many times insult ) me. Others said I had no credibility and I was defending myself, just like anyone else would do. This turned from a forum for sports discussion and opinion into an insult contest, and it was unnecessary. I have done the same thing in these forums that others do, but because my opinion sometimes differs from other fans, I get insulted and personally attacked. Opinions are simply opinions; there really is no right or wrong. Some are based on facts, some are just theories. Both should be accepted in these forums.
   As for throwing out a thought about being told to play dirty or doing it on his own, it was simply a comment and I wanted to see what others thought. If people disagree, than great. That is what makes for fun and interesting discussion. I never said in the post that Wilfork was being told to play dirty. I did what everyone else in here does; I just posted a comment to get reaction. And apparently, it is working.

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Posted: 10/29/2008 4:39 PM

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Jimbothekid wrote:

It's funny Gino, that you tell me your second grader has better grammar than I do. Well, apparently he is a better speller than you are. First of all, it is LOSMAN, not Lossman, and trajectory is spelled with a j and not a g. So before you go and try to rip me, make sure your posts are spelled correctly and are grammatically accurate.
  Pylons, you can insist I am a troll all you want, but it is not true. You can insist all you want, but your posts are getting more and more tiring.
   Vabthang, I never took a holier than thou approach, nor did I ever insist that I was necessarily right and others were wrong. What I was giving was my opinion, and others chose to question me and rip ( and many times insult ) me. Others said I had no credibility and I was defending myself, just like anyone else would do. This turned from a forum for sports discussion and opinion into an insult contest, and it was unnecessary. I have done the same thing in these forums that others do, but because my opinion sometimes differs from other fans, I get insulted and personally attacked. Opinions are simply opinions; there really is no right or wrong. Some are based on facts, some are just theories. Both should be accepted in these forums.
   As for throwing out a thought about being told to play dirty or doing it on his own, it was simply a comment and I wanted to see what others thought. If people disagree, than great. That is what makes for fun and interesting discussion. I never said in the post that Wilfork was being told to play dirty. I did what everyone else in here does; I just posted a comment to get reaction. And apparently, it is working.



Youre probably not a New Englander then, if youre this thin skinned.


These townies will take on anyone for arguments sake, 
(including another townie like me.)





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Posted: 10/29/2008 5:03 PM

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As a matter of fact Patsie I am a New Englander, been here my whole life. I don't have thin skin at all. It just gets tiring to read people insult me and criticize me, so I feel the need to defend myself when necessary. I think anyone else would do the same.
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Posted: 10/29/2008 5:47 PM

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I always hear Jimbothekid's name mentioned whenever other people talk about trolls bashing BB or the Pats in general. I wonder if he really is a troll and hates the Pats and their coaching staff. I wonder. I have no proof whatsoever but .....

Posted: 10/29/2008 5:55 PM

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Jimbothekid wrote: Wilfork is a very good defensive lineman, but there is no question he is one of the dirtiest players in the league. A lot of the players do it, but Wilfork's name seems to be coming up a lot when dirty plays are discussed. I wonder how much Wilfork does on his own. By saying that, I am just curious ( no facts at all here just wondering ) if he is asked to be a little more dirty by the coaching staff. Again, I have no basis here, just wondering. Keep in mind that Rodney Harrison has been named the dirtiest player in the league by other players for three years running ( I think three anyway ) so it definitely isn't just Wolfork.
Let me add my two cents.  This is the post that set everyone off and if you are looking for opinions, I will tell you I don't think Wilfork is dirty at all.  We never see the crap that goes on before he maybe pokes a finger in someones face or gets into a shoving match with someone after the play.

I am surprised how much he is able to keep his cool.  He is double teamed on every single down, sometimes tripple teamed, I'd get pretty frustrated too.  The hit last year on the Bills QB was, in my mind far less intentional than the guy who knocked Brady out this year.  But, it's football it happens.  I will also tell you that BB doesn't seem like the kind of coach that would instruct a player to play "dirty."  No way I think coaching staff tells people to play dirty, just not the make up of the Pat's.

The rep on Harrison was sometimes deserved, but most times just a lot of bull.  Ray Lewis routinely tries to take peoples heads off, but he is just "aggressive," Rodney never went after people's knees, he hit them in the mouth instead.

Posted: 10/29/2008 6:11 PM

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Apparently Gardner you did not see my other post where I said I was not a troll. But you can believe anything you want to.
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