Posted: 10/14/2008 11:31 AM
Last edited 10/19/2008 10:17 PM by Morpheus11
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Whats goin on guys? Bronco fan here, just checking in with ya.
First off, I think Morpheus said this team would be toast if Brady got hurt. Thats nothing to be ashamed about, there arent many teams that can lose their starter and even win half of their remaining games, let alone get into the playoffs and make any impact. The injury bug sucks, and you guys got bit by the biggest one out there.
OK, Ill give ya my thoughts on the game. I havent been keeping close watch on your games, at least not in the sense of observing how the different factions of the team is playing, but I heard some posters mention your inability to rush the QB. If this is true, this does not bode well for you, because our O-line has been playing OUTSTANDING with the addition of our first rounder Ryan Clady, who seems guaranteed to see many Pro-Bowls if not the Hall of Fame.( I know its early to say that, but this kid is amazing.) We ARE Denver, so the ability to run is going to be there....Selvin Young is hurt, not sure for how long, but we have plenty of talent to make up for it. Michael Pittman is revitalizing his career, and bringing some nasty to our lineup that we havent seen since we traded Mike Anderson. Now, Cutler and friends came out of the gate firing on all cylinders...for the first three games...The last three we have seen the kind of mistakes you would expect from a 3rd year QB, no matter his talent. Brandon Marshall is a beast, and probably the hardest back to tackle in the league, but his drive for more yards ATC has led to him getting stripped and turning the ball over. Eddie Royal is looking like the clear cut RoY, but he was hurt the last game and I'm not sure if he will play. Now the main problem here, is Cutler seems just a little TOO confident in that cannon of his.....Instead of checking down to the safer pass(AT least three of his INT's came at a time when he had someone else WIDE OPEN) he seems to think he can just zip that baby into Marshall whenever he wants. Well, people have got some tape on him now, and know to expect that zinger, and have been getting ome picks off of him. TE Tony Scheffler, Cutlers 2nd favorite target, IS OUT for this game, but we have some skill at the position, and as long as Cutler plays smart, we should do fine. That is key for us, Cutler playing smart. Both losses this year have one constant...Cutler having MULTIPLE turnovers. I admit Im thankful that Samuel is gone, as he is the type of player to REALLY make Cutler pay for any mistakes, and O' Neal just isn't at that level. Bill Bellichik IS an outstanding defensive mind however, and I could see him having a very clever plan to try to get some turnovers.
On D.....WHile Id never WANT a player to be hurt, or be glad he is hurt, I must admit I'm damn thankful that Tom Brady won't get a shot at us here. We have been attrocious, nearly last in the league at everything, and I would imagine Tom would put up at least 60 points on us, despite the fact that the D has shown some improvement the last few weeks. This is potentially a game for Cassel to shine, because our defensive line has been playing as poorly as our O-line has been playing good. We have NO pass rush AT ALL, unless we blitz hard, but we have shown a tendency to only do this in the 2nd and 3rd quarters then switch into a 3-4(despite NOT having anywhere close to the necessary personel to do this) and trying to cover, and it simply doesnt work. Lets put it this way...Damon Huard and the KC Chiefs scored 33 points on us....Yea, its that bad.....SOme improvement in the weeks since then, but nothing really worth mentioning.Ive said all this for almost every game now. This will come down to turnovers...Now we havent generated alot, and I wouldn't expect that to change...So it comes down to Cutler playing smart....If he plays smart and spreads it around, keeping turnovers to a minimum, we should be able to win this. If he throws a couple stupid picks and we see a lost fumble, you guys could very well win, even if Bellichik himself suited up to come play QB.Ill throw a prediction out...Im gonna assume Cutler and the offense has gotten their asses chewed for the dumb stuffed that happened against Jacksonville, and are going to play better football fundamentally...Throw in that you guys simply dont have Tom Brady, and I've got to have a fairly decent feeling about this game, and think we will come out on top...My team has been too inconsistent for me to even try to guess on the score however.I could also see how I could be totally wrong.Anyways, lets have a good game, and for petes sake no more injuries for bopth of us!P.S- I goptta admit Im kinda desperate for a win here.....If we lose to you after the Chargers have won, the inevitable smack talk from their POS fanbase will be almost too much to bear.
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Morpheus11 wrote: Razer the thing is even if Cutler does turn the ball over the Patriots don't have a QB who could make them pay. Matt Cassel if the first receiver is covered will either tuck teh ball and run into the defense or get sacked. Or throw wide or throw the ball on the ground. He couldn'd even get the Patriots into the end zone on first and goal.
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chrism wrote: Morph, one thing you're underestimating is how bad the Bronco's D is. They are 32nd against the pass and 26th against the run. They can't really rush the passer either. I realize that you're pretty much only able to see the negatives at this point, but the Bronco's D is BAD. Don't forget, they lost to KC a few weeks ago 33-19.
ARe we that bad?
I had thought the Tampa game had boosted us up into the, oh, 25th area for passing. Not like the distinction means much at that level of ineptitude.
There isnt any "Cant really" about our pass here man. There is simply, WE CANNOT RUSH THE PASSER WITH ONLY 4D-LINEMAN.Sure, we lost to KC 33-19....But we also beat San Diego 39-38, so our offence is able to play as good as the D plays bad.Anyways, like I say, this could go alot of different ways.
Posted: 10/16/2008 10:53 AM
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Posted: 10/17/2008 1:55 AM
I understand there was a bad call, but maybe if they had stopped us from hanging 31 points on em in the first half, the bad call may not have mattered so much hmmmm?
Posted: 10/17/2008 7:50 AM
Denver [+3] @ NEP ~ Man, since I know that "Mr. Genius" himself has put the kabash on signing a veteran to QB this team, I'm taking Denver and the points. I can not change his choice but, I do not have to respect it !
The opposing teams are salavating(sp) with his choice. SDC had a crappy defense too and, I'm still trying to figure out what happened on that 1ST and goal from the 1 yard line............. Must have been our slow, aging defenses' fault. Or perhaps, Moss quit on his route. We all know the OL failed. Did the RB's really have a chance? Naaaaa..........Denver will give NE their hands full !
Posted: 10/17/2008 9:41 AM
SD was ranked DEAD LAST in pass defense when they played the Patriots. And they touched the Pat's on offense. Now the Chargers didn't have Marshall as a WR. (Marshall was one of those players picked in the middle rounds I was ranting on the Patriots taking. Instead he is with Denver and the Patriots to that point still needed receivers)
Marshall is a best. Royal is damn fast reminds me of the Jackson from Philly who played well in preseason against the Patriots.
Broncos can score, can't see the Patriots getting inot t shoot-out with them. If the Broncos go up by 14 points it's over. 10 points and it probable over too.
Posted: 10/17/2008 10:22 AM
If the Pats can pull this one out, even if its a close one, maybe we can breath a little easyer. I see the Broncos at least as good as the Bolts. A win on monday will do a lot to restore confidance..
Hey, this may be one of those good week / bad week seasons. I just hope they can get past the (never thought Id say this) Bill and make it into the playoffs. By then maybe cohesion and a level of comfort will have been attained.I always go with the Pats / Pats 17 - Broncos 13
Posted: 10/17/2008 11:01 AM
Morpheus11 wrote: SD was ranked DEAD LAST in pass defense when they played the Patriots. And they touched the Pat's on offense. Now the Chargers didn't have Marshall as a WR. (Marshall was one of those players picked in the middle rounds I was ranting on the Patriots taking. Instead he is with Denver and the Patriots to that point still needed receivers)Marshall is a best. Royal is damn fast reminds me of the Jackson from Philly who played well in preseason against the Patriots.Broncos can score, can't see the Patriots getting inot t shoot-out with them. If the Broncos go up by 14 points it's over. 10 points and it probable over too.
Posted: 10/17/2008 11:25 AM
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Starting to get comical.
Maroney and Jordan have not practiced all week. Disappointing.
Posted: 10/17/2008 2:36 PM
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I like Morris, I think he is a good back, I think he can be a work horse, but he is not a big play threat.
You could make a good argument that Maroney is a not a big play threat either, at least by the way he was playing, but Maroney at least had speed to be a threat (acourse that would mean hitting a damn hole hard).
I wonder if Green-Ellis can catch the football? I would like to see the Pats get some speed on the edge of the Denver defense.
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