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Rodney Too Old?
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Posted: 7/18/2008 12:53 PM
Rodney Too Old?
Harrison Still Getting It Done Special to Scout.com By TSX
--Not even for a minute. That was how Rodney Harrison responded when asked if he gave retirement any thought this offseason. At age 35 and coming off an emotionally draining season, it would certainly have been understandable if Harrison wavered throughout his time off. His year started with the embarrassment of a four-game suspension that came as a result of his violation of the league's banned substances policy and the "Spygate" scandal that threatened the moral fiber of the team. It then progressed as the Patriots ran roughshod over the league for the better part of three months.
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Is Rodney Too old to get the job done?
Last edited 7/18/2008 1:43 PM by PatriotsAdmin
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Posted: 7/18/2008 2:43 PM
RE: Rodney Too Old?
Last season he was always a few steps slow in coverage. He can still blitz and play the run and he still occasionally gets the clutch pick, but he looks lost in coverage for the majority of the game.
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Posted: 7/19/2008 6:32 AM
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YEEAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..........Ain't it funnyyy........ how tiiiiiiiiime slips away.....................
Add Junior, Teddy and one or two more. And, Kraft shows he is willing to go down with this ship.
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Posted: 7/19/2008 9:39 AM
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Until Meriweather or Sanders steps up in coverage, he's still the best option. We need to try to put the Tyree catch in SB 42 behind us! Tyree made one hell of a catch! I doubt we'll see that again anytime soon? I seem to recall Asante dropping a pick that would have saved the game, but oops, slipped thru his fingers....Was that because he's too old?
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Posted: 7/19/2008 5:58 PM
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Correct your are GR. Harrison still has the attitude. He is without a doubt the leader in the DB secondary. Im not worried he might have lost a step because he's still better than 90% of the DBS playing ball. I would be more worried without him. James Sanders, Merriweather and now we have the Tank may be the future by they need a leader to put things together in game situations.
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Posted: 7/20/2008 6:17 AM
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gr365 wrote: Until Meriweather or Sanders steps up in coverage, he's still the best option. We need to try to put the Tyree catch in SB 42 behind us! Tyree made one hell of a catch! I doubt we'll see that again anytime soon? I seem to recall Asante dropping a pick that would have saved the game, but oops, slipped thru his fingers....Was that because he's too old? 365...........Great catch is was!! Harrison and another defender were all over him, too. I certainly agree with you in "still the best option" however, no getting around the fact that some NEP's best options are "old" best options. BTW: Mayo OVER Ghlosten(sp) 8 days a week.................Also, this kid Hobson should be a starter. [Inside] At the end of the day, NE's defense got it done with both old and new.
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Posted: 7/20/2008 8:12 AM
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Age is but a number, while rodney may in the twilight of his career and may not have the speed he used to have--- he his by no means "done". When it comes time to hang em up Rodney will let us all know but untill then I would rather have a slower Rodney Harrison in my backfield than most safetys in the NFL, ----not because we are senitmental fools and want him to play past his effectivness, it's that rodney brings the intangibiles to the field---He's tenancious,intense,hits like a mack truck,trash talks with the best of them, and above all has unquestioned leadership abilities, and I will take that version any day. Too old----I think not
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Posted: 7/21/2008 12:55 PM
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Rodneys DONE. He'll be cut before the end of traning camp. Tank Williams is the new leader. (ducking) 
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Posted: 7/21/2008 11:24 PM
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Until Merriweather learns to play angles like even SLOW ass Rodney can, Rodney will always be one of the best at playing angles, if you get no Pass Rush at all., anyone can get open it doesnt matter youll get in a lag pursuit eventually.
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Posted: 7/23/2008 11:32 AM
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What is this Tank is the new Rodney? This guy hasn't played a down yet and we're not even sure that he's no more than a specialty player! 3rd down MLB? 3rd down OLB? ST's? He'll be given the opportunity to contribute, but to say he's the man in the secondary is a little much, no? It takes time to learn this system, and year 2 is uaually when the big jump occurs for the defensive players... I'm looking to the kids like Sanders, Meriweather! Sanders stepped it up in his second year. I think Meriweather has all the tools, yeah, he dropped some INT's last year. So did Asante early! Once he knows the system completely, his reaction time will improve, less thinking more reacting...I see Tank more as Tebucky Jones. A guy who can play the LB position on third down, ST's and a back-up. We'll see as camp and pre-season progresses...I think the new "Rodney" will be a SS who isn't on the roster yet?
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Posted: 7/23/2008 11:05 PM
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gr365 wrote: What is this Tank is the new Rodney? This guy hasn't played a down yet and we're not even sure that he's no more than a specialty player! 3rd down MLB? 3rd down OLB? ST's? He'll be given the opportunity to contribute, but to say he's the man in the secondary is a little much, no? It takes time to learn this system, and year 2 is uaually when the big jump occurs for the defensive players... I'm looking to the kids like Sanders, Meriweather! Sanders stepped it up in his second year. I think Meriweather has all the tools, yeah, he dropped some INT's last year. So did Asante early! Once he knows the system completely, his reaction time will improve, less thinking more reacting...I see Tank more as Tebucky Jones. A guy who can play the LB position on third down, ST's and a back-up. We'll see as camp and pre-season progresses...I think the new "Rodney" will be a SS who isn't on the roster yet? Rodney was so exhausted by the time a fresh Tyree lined up against him, he wound up so badly beaten he cushioned Tyrees fall for him. He was just too out of position to even knock the ball out. Give Tyree a talented special teamer credit for one of the clutch plays of all TIME. Sadly, we witness Rodney getting to the downside of his career. "Time, the Avenger" ( The Pretenders ).
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Posted: 7/24/2008 12:36 AM
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You're rght .................now watch this year when they slip, slide, and sink all the way to the Super Bowl again this year......As apposed to your Navy Bellicheck is the Captain of this ship.....not Kraft....and his policy is "the best man at the position will play !!!After setting a league record by going 18-0 last year I'm not concerned with this ship sinking as long as he is the Captain .......even if Rodney was eligible to collect his Social Security check this year !!!! We do appreciate your concern and if the young wipper-snappers on your team go 18-0 I know you'll feel the same way about a losers critisizm as I do about yours !!! 
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Posted: 7/27/2008 12:18 PM
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Rodney! Rodney gets hurt, don't rule out Ty Law coming in at the SS position! Don't rule out Law just yet, anyway! He's out there and after camp will be looking to join a team! I still beleive he wants back in in NE!
I also believe that he and BB have an understanding...Like I don't want to go to camp Bill! I hate it! Here's the thing though, he knows the system. Can excell in it, and certianly has the smarts and experience to jump back in! Yeah, he a step slower, but at safety big deal!~
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Posted: 7/28/2008 11:44 AM
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Rodney will be better thern Law at SS even when he's dead. Ty Law is more suited as being a Free Safety. Your SS has to be a machine at tackling, althouhg law is a good tackler, you can't wrap feet up on a head on collision playing Safety. Youll get knocked the f--K out. Safties tackle higher on the body then the avg CB does.
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Posted: 7/28/2008 6:48 PM
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Hey genius ~ At least most of the NEP Fans do not post under multiple monnikers, shooting their mouths off, often saying nothing ! 
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Posted: 7/28/2008 6:57 PM
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brknwing wrote: Age is but a number,
while rodney may in the twilight of his career and may not have the speed he used to have--- he his by no means "done". When it comes time to hang em up Rodney will let us all know but untill then I would rather have a slower Rodney Harrison in my backfield than most safetys in the NFL, ----not because we are senitmental fools and want him to play past his effectivness, it's that rodney brings the intangibiles to the field---He's tenancious,intense,hits like a mack truck,trash talks with the best of them, and above all has unquestioned leadership abilities, and I will take that version any day.
Too old----I think not "Age is but a number", but in sports,,, "the younger the better" is the bottom line. Imo, Rodney has not fully recovered from his injury, and never will completely. He should be ok starting the season, but will probably slow down dramatically as the season progresses. Im in agreement with your assessment of what Rodney has meant to this team, perhaps Im just a bit more realistic than emotional when anticipating older athletes capabilities.
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Posted: 7/29/2008 1:59 PM
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minimac wrote:
brknwing wrote: Age is but a number,
while rodney may in the twilight of his career and may not have the speed he used to have--- he his by no means "done". When it comes time to hang em up Rodney will let us all know but untill then I would rather have a slower Rodney Harrison in my backfield than most safetys in the NFL, ----not because we are senitmental fools and want him to play past his effectivness, it's that rodney brings the intangibiles to the field---He's tenancious,intense,hits like a mack truck,trash talks with the best of them, and above all has unquestioned leadership abilities, and I will take that version any day.
Too old----I think not
"Age is but a number", but in sports,,, "the younger the better" is the bottom line.
Imo, Rodney has not fully recovered from his injury, and never will completely. He should be ok starting the season, but will probably slow down dramatically as the season progresses.
Im in agreement with your assessment of what Rodney has meant to this team, perhaps Im just a bit more realistic than emotional when anticipating older athletes capabilities. I'm a realist also but with an emotional edge ---He certainly isn't the player of yesteryear but imo I think he has at least one more season left. It will be interesting to see the amount of play time he recieves or will he be playing situations. we will have to wait for the games to begin .. Then we will have a more honest assesement of his abilities.
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Posted: 7/29/2008 2:59 PM
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brknwing wrote:
minimac wrote:
brknwing wrote: Age is but a number,
while rodney may in the twilight of his career and may not have the speed he used to have--- he his by no means "done". When it comes time to hang em up Rodney will let us all know but untill then I would rather have a slower Rodney Harrison in my backfield than most safetys in the NFL, ----not because we are senitmental fools and want him to play past his effectivness, it's that rodney brings the intangibiles to the field---He's tenancious,intense,hits like a mack truck,trash talks with the best of them, and above all has unquestioned leadership abilities, and I will take that version any day.
Too old----I think not
"Age is but a number", but in sports,,, "the younger the better" is the bottom line.
Imo, Rodney has not fully recovered from his injury, and never will completely. He should be ok starting the season, but will probably slow down dramatically as the season progresses.
Im in agreement with your assessment of what Rodney has meant to this team, perhaps Im just a bit more realistic than emotional when anticipating older athletes capabilities. I'm a realist also but with an emotional edge ---He certainly isn't the player of yesteryear but imo I think he has at least one more season left. It will be interesting to see the amount of play time he recieves or will he be playing situations. we will have to wait for the games to begin .. Then we will have a more honest assesement of his abilities.
Im in the same choir as you, and certainly got emotional over his play over the years. All we can do is hope for the best,,,,and a legalization of the miracle healing drug called hgh as well, as soon as possible. We will all heal our injuries quicker when that happens, imo. I consider Rodney a pioneer in this area, and proof positive that it works. Rodney is forever a Patriots "Ring of Honor" player, so I salute some hope and emotionalism, but I tend to lean towards the harsh reality of aging.
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Posted: 8/2/2008 1:59 PM
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He's like Bruschi and Seau, old greats who can't deliver the goods over the long haul anymore. A few years ago he would have blown up Tyree and sent him to the hospital for daring to try to catch a pass right under his nose; in 2008 just making the tackle was a struggle. He's lost a step and it isn't going to get any better. 
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Posted: 8/3/2008 8:18 AM
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I think a lot of people including Pats fans are going to be surprised at how Meriweather has stepped up in camp. At one point in camp Rodney had to tell him to calm down as he was shouting directions on plays. This kid will be starting, and Sanders will sub for Harrison to keep him fresh for the year.
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Posted: 8/3/2008 11:48 PM
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NEPatsFan1950 wrote: I think a lot of people including Pats fans are going to be surprised at how Meriweather has stepped up in camp. At one point in camp Rodney had to tell him to calm down as he was shouting directions on plays. This kid will be starting, and Sanders will sub for Harrison to keep him fresh for the year. You might be right 1950 but i think rodney, sanders and tank williams will see more action that meriweather.
don't get me wrong, i like the kid, but what the hell has he done? it's camp. I would like to see him use some of that energy during games and make some plays.
Last edited 8/3/2008 11:49 PM by patsfan37
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Posted: 8/4/2008 9:42 PM
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patsfan37 wrote:
You might be right 1950 but i think rodney, sanders and tank williams will see more action that meriweather.
don't get me wrong, i like the kid, but what the hell has he done? it's camp. I would like to see him use some of that energy during games and make some plays. Rodney may be hurting himself with all of his early season efforts. I continue to read about how much Rodney is putting out in camp, blasting people all over the place. Would hope he starts in on saving himself, and practicing the equivalent of "football sabermetrics" as far as his body is concerned. Imo, hes going to need to time himself better so he can hopefully last the season.
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