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OFFICIAL SUPERBOWL XLII thread: Patriots vs. Giants

Posted: 1/20/2008 10:34 PM

OFFICIAL SUPERBOWL XLII thread: Patriots vs. Giants 




This is the Official Superbowl XL II game thread. All thoughts, comments and questions regarding the game should go in this thread.

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Posted: 1/20/2008 10:56 PM

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The Patriots will destroy the Giants just as the Ravens did in 2001.

For the past few weeks,I've been posting all over the Internet that the Giants were a lock to make the Super Bowl because the stock market was headed for a collapse(Every time they make it,the market has a bad year).When it started slding in December,I knew they were in.

I'll take 38-10.

Posted: 1/20/2008 11:06 PM

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Uhhh ok....




As for the game.  Its indoors, and its in Arizona.  Perfect conditions and perfect throwing weather.  I wonder how much work Maroney is going to get running the ball?
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Posted: 1/20/2008 11:28 PM

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Very Disappointing match-up, IMO, but really nobody matches up with the Patriots, so whatever.

Posted: 1/20/2008 11:34 PM

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It's interesting that this will be a rematch of a game that was played in the final week of the regular season.  I wonder if that's ever happened before.  I suppose I could do some research and find out, but I guess it's not THAT interesting.

Posted: 1/20/2008 11:39 PM

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I remember the Colts played Denver during Wild-card week and they just played them in week 17.  Both at the RCA dome I think.

Posted: 1/21/2008 3:31 AM

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We're better than we were when you beat us 38-35.  You'll undoubtedly be heavily favored, as you should be after the season you've had, but I like our chances.

Posted: 1/21/2008 5:28 AM

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Agreed youre the better team but ON ANY GIVEN SUNDAY.....i WILL say this the Giants will come ready to play with whoever we have not rollover like your last 2 opponents.No way is Ladyman worthy of the initials LT after sitting out the big game,,,maybe BLT..

Posted: 1/21/2008 5:42 AM

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Tomlinson may have rolled over. I don't think you watched if you think the rest of SD or JX rolled over at all.

With 2 weeks to plan and great conditions, health shouldn't be that big a factor.  I think it will be a good game...as long as Brady finds his head from up his @$$ unlike yesterday, and Manning doesn't ahhh pull a Manning.
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Posted: 1/21/2008 7:03 AM

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i dont think it will be as close as the last game. the giants relyed on a big pass at the beginning of the game and jumped out to a 7-0 lead.

then a kick off return for a touchdown, the odds are neither will happen this time.

Posted: 1/21/2008 8:37 AM

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Randy Moss has had what 2 catches in the last two games? I expect Moss to have more than two catches in the Superbowl. I don't expect Brady to throw three interceptions either.

The Giants are playing otherwise they would not be playing in the Superbowl. Having said that I believe it will be a good game, I do expect the Patriots to win. Is it true they will open the roof? The Patriots should have a good passing game and hopefully Maroney will continue to do as he has been doing.

I don't think the Patriots will cover the spread but I expect them to win by a touchdown.

 

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Posted: 1/21/2008 8:41 AM

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things to consider going in:

tom brady didn't turn in a stellar performance against the chargers (22/33,2TDs, 3INTs). how likely is it for that to happen again in back to back games?

plaxico burress played the game of his career last night. how likely is it for that to happen again in back to back games?

bill belichick just faced the giants 3 games ago and has two weeks to prepare. think he'll tweak his game-plan a bit?

eli manning has been playing over his head for weeks, doing just enough to advance. now he has a couple of weeks to think about it. (colorado rockies, anyone?)

the conditions in arizona will be similar to those of the early part of the season. you remember the early part of the season, right?
that's when new england began to get flack for "running up the score"...


new england football patriots: 38
new jersey giants: 24

history waits.





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Posted: 1/21/2008 9:20 AM

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I disagree that this is a disappointing matchup.  I think the Giants have a better chance against New England than the Packers did.  Favre would have probably thrown 4-5 INTs against the Patriots.  But, if the Giants play against New England like they did against Green Bay, they will get smoked.  Their D-Line got basically no pressure on Favre the whole game.

Posted: 1/21/2008 9:59 AM

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Well I said when we were playing the G-men in week 17.... They are team that could give the pats trouble, they got a great pass rush with 4 guys.  I like the pats chances if they can get pressure on Eli but if they can not it could turn into a shootout, like the last game.  The giants have demonstrated they are a great team and deserve to be going to arizona.
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Posted: 1/21/2008 10:31 AM

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PatsNSox wrote: " I like the pats chances if they can get pressure on Eli but if they can not it could turn into a shootout, like the last game. "

i think new england wants a shootout in the arizona climate precisely because it won't be like last time.





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Posted: 1/21/2008 10:31 AM

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This isn't going to be the same Patriot team that played in week 17. Everybody and their mothers knew that Tom Brady was trying to get his 2 TD's to Randy Moss, so the Giants obviously knew that and tried to guard against it.
This time, we're not going to try and break individual records, Im gonna hope for a vintage Brady throwing to 6-7 different recievers. Eli will go back to sucking, hopefully.
Patriots 35
Giants 13
MVP: Tom Brady

Posted: 1/21/2008 11:37 AM

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thepylons wrote: PatsNSox wrote: " I like the pats chances if they can get pressure on Eli but if they can not it could turn into a shootout, like the last game. "

i think new england wants a shootout in the arizona climate precisely because it won't be like last time.





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Pylons, what I am saying is the pats are going to get thei rpts in Arizona.  No doubt in my mind they score 24+ pts.  But they need to keep the pressure on eli so the giants dont score big as well.

Posted: 1/21/2008 11:59 AM

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Correct me if I am wrong but weren't we missing one half of our O.L. last time we played the G-men? Perhaps that is why they were able to pressure Brady with only 4 pass rushers.

In any case, I'm glad the G-Men are in because they showed courage ever since week 17, their fan base is not so arrogant like the Cowgirls, and I really don't want to see Brett farve launching prayers all day. G-men are better than both of those teams.
Pats will win by a TD

Posted: 1/21/2008 12:05 PM

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TNPatsFan wrote: It's interesting that this will be a rematch of a game that was played in the final week of the regular season.  I wonder if that's ever happened before.  I suppose I could do some research and find out, but I guess it's not THAT interesting.

Also, the Pats/Giants finished their preseason schedule with a game against each other. 
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My prediction is based on parallels I see with the 2007 Red Sox.

Both the Pats and Sox won the tougher conference/league.  The opponent isn’t/wasn't considered the strongest team, but got hot at the right time.  They are playing a team that played them tough in the regular season (the Rockies won 2 of 3 in Fenway).  Therefore, I predict the Pats will win easily, similar to how the Sox swept the Rockies .

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Posted: 1/21/2008 1:06 PM

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Now that sounds like a reasoned prediction K.

Posted: 1/21/2008 1:35 PM

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The X-Factor I'm worried about is that there's a Manning in the mix - which could affect the officiating. In a close game, a couple of mysterious PI calls can change everything.

As long as that's a level playing field, I'm sure BB will be able to design a defense which forces the Giants to rely on Manning's arm, and then have him throw where we want him to.

What was remarkable about the AFCCG was that the Pats basically switched to a new offensive scheme at half-time. That's what makes this team so tough to beat - they'll throw something out if it's not working and try something else.

Posted: 1/21/2008 1:39 PM

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thepylons wrote: things to consider going in:

tom brady didn't turn in a stellar performance against the chargers (22/33,2TDs, 3INTs). how likely is it for that to happen again in back to back games?

plaxico burress played the game of his career last night. how likely is it for that to happen again in back to back games?

bill belichick just faced the giants 3 games ago and has two weeks to prepare. think he'll tweak his game-plan a bit?

eli manning has been playing over his head for weeks, doing just enough to advance. now he has a couple of weeks to think about it. (colorado rockies, anyone?)

the conditions in arizona will be similar to those of the early part of the season. you remember the early part of the season, right?
that's when new england began to get flack for "running up the score"...


new england football patriots: 38
new jersey giants: 24

history waits.





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Lets face it Tom has had a hard time playing in cold weather.
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Posted: 1/21/2008 3:32 PM

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Division wrote: "Lets face it Tom has had a hard time playing in cold weather."

every quarterback struggles with wind, rain and cold weather. it's more about physics than skill.
look at favre last night. he's one of the best cold weather quarterbacks of his generation and he looked terrible in the frigid nfcc.
yet few would object to calling brett favre a cold-weather QB.

the inverse is also true. take brady (the 50 TD league mvp despite playing in an outdoor stadium in new england) and put him in a dome and his numbers sky-rocket. his dome numbers are better than peyton manning, who's made a name for himself by playing more than half his games in a bubble.

so it's true that brady's numbers have fallen to earth since winter set in (of course, he lit it up against jacksonville). but that shouldn't be a surprise.
people have a harder time getting their newspaper in the driveway when it's 5 below zero and the asphalt is covered in ice.
brady was still the best QB in every cold weather game he was a part of this season.

the good news is this: the pat's offense will have the luxury of practicing indoors for the next two weeks.
they will be able to count on a climate controlled environment in arizona. they have two weeks to regain their early season form and will have 60 minutes to showcase it in the superbowl.

as i've said in another thread, after running the late season and post season gauntlet of wind, rain, ice, snow and cold weather, the effect will be similar to training with weights tied to their ankles while sprinting on the sand.

these guys will be walking on the moon in glendale.
the result could be something very special...






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Posted: 1/21/2008 5:41 PM

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Fans:

This is a good, no very good NY Giants Football Club. One not to be taken lightly and one whose defense will collapse the pocket and put enormous pressure on a QB. They lead the NFC and NFL in sacks.
Eli has "come of age" too. Both the offensive and defensive coordinators have been phenominal in play selection and defensive schemes. The initial betting line is one you may want to discard all together. Note the G-Men have plenty of gas left in their tanks and may welll see their destiny two weeks ahead.

Posted: 1/21/2008 10:31 PM

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This team tried to end or perfect 16-0 regular season, and now they're back to try to endo or perfect 19-0 season and our Superbowl dreams.  I have only one thing to say, and that is.................

 

 

Go Patriots!!!!



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Posted: 1/22/2008 5:02 AM

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I love how some of the media are labeling this a NYC-Boston thing.  I don't know how many people around here grew up and are still Giants fans, but it's not small.  It's actually more of an old AFL vs NFL thing.

Brady's foot is in a boot cast?  ...Well if he was really hurt I bet they'd have him prone.

Posted: 1/22/2008 8:30 AM

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GinoC wrote: I love how some of the media are labeling this a NYC-Boston thing.  I don't know how many people around here grew up and are still Giants fans, but it's not small.  It's actually more of an old AFL vs NFL thing.

Brady's foot is in a boot cast?  ...Well if he was really hurt I bet they'd have him prone.

Saw last night on NFL netwrok where they asked what the bigger rivalry was, Pats-Giants or Yankees-Red Sox.  It is funny, I didn't realize the Giants and Pats were really rivals.  The Jets yes, but they still aren't as big as Red Sox-Yankees.  So much history, and hatred.  Blown calls and annhilation, comebacks and sweeps.  Tons of history.  Not even a chance, gotta be Red Sox Yankees.

Posted: 1/22/2008 10:45 AM

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Anyone have a stat sheet of how the Patriots played this season in temperatures above 50 degrees?

Posted: 1/22/2008 12:38 PM

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PatriotsDynasty12189 wrote: I remember the Colts played Denver during Wild-card week and they just played them in week 17.  Both at the RCA dome I think.

Nope, nevermind.  The regular season finale was in Invesco Field and the Colts lost 33-14.  Manning didnt really play that game.

Posted: 1/22/2008 2:36 PM

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Not sure but the 1 I do remember is in Miami 42 - 7 at halftime
SportsFanForLife wrote: Anyone have a stat sheet of how the Patriots played this season in temperatures above 50 degrees?
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