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Brady not listed in top 5 qb's - kinda miffed ...

Posted: 6/11/2014 2:52 PM

Brady not listed in top 5 qb's - kinda miffed ... 


Tom Brady tells number-crunchers to stick stats where the sun don’t shine
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by jason rowan on june 10, 2014

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One would reasonably expect that a person as tremendously successful with a pedigree of excellence such as Tom Brady would have a little thicker skin, but the New England Patriots seems to be genuinely perturbed and somewhat chagrined over his name dropping out of a random “Top 5 NFL Quarterbacks” list.
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Originally posted by Pro Football Focus and later attracting a lot of attention analysis on ESPN.com and subsequent debate by the talking heads at The Worldwide Leader in Sports (and Bloviating), the statistics-laden analysis arrived at the conclusion that Brady no longer remains a top-5 NFL QB.
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According to the article, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees stayed in the top 5, but Brady was passed over as Philip Rivers and Ben Roethlisberger filled out the remaining two spots.
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Brady’s omission sparked intense debate on Boston radio and the like, as well as nationally, especially on ESPN. The question: Given the success he has enjoyed — and continues to enjoy — does it make sense for someone like Philip Rivers to leapfrog him? Another question arguably could be, “Why should we — or Brady — even care?” But that’s a discussion for another time perhaps.
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In any event, Tommy Boy is mad as hell and he isn’t going to take it anymore from these stat nerds. Actually, he seems more irked than pissed, arguing that wins are more important than any number of personal stats.
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Speaking at a community event at Gillette Stadium on Monday, Brady bristled at the speculation that he doesn’t have what it takes to be one of the preeminent quarterbacks in the NFL, arguing that the final score is the only true measurement of success.
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“I think that people watch the games on TV because there is a scoreboard. I think that’s what it is all about,” Brady said, according to ESPNBoston.com. “If there was no scoreboard, then people wouldn’t tune in and watch. There’s only one stat that matters, and that’s because the competition in the NFL is very high, extremely high on a daily basis.
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“You can’t sit here and compare one year to another year or compare this player to that player. I think winning games is the most important thing, certainly for this organization. When you come here, you learn that pretty quickly. Whatever matters to you as an individual, it’s far distant to what the team goals are. And the team goals are one thing — to score more points than the other team.”
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Brady is absolutely correct in his assertion that when it comes down to it, it does not matter what personal stats are generated during a particular game, or even in a season. So long as a team has more points than its opponent when the clock winds down to zero at the end of a game — particularly in the playoffs, obviously — that’s all that really matters.
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But taking a look at Brady’s statistical output does paint a picture that lends itself to his diminishing skills, no matter how much he attempts to downplay it. Granted, he did lead the Patriots to the AFC Championship Game, but his 25-touchdown, 11-interception regular season where he completed 60.5 percent of his passes led to a 87.3 quarterback rating, his lowest since 2003.
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Most teams would be more than happy to take those numbers from their starting quarterback and a run to the AFC title game, not to mention the legacy of excellence Brady has built during his tenure as the Patriots’ unquestioned on-field leader as he led to the team to three Super Bowl victories.
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As far as Brady, who turns 37 in August, is concerned, he plans to keep on keeping on, no matter what the naysayers say.
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“Hopefully I’m answering those questions a long time from now too, and you guys can just reprint the stories or whatever you want to write now,” he said. “I want to do this for this team for as long as I possibly can. I love playing football for this team and for this organization. My goal is to continue to play at a high level, and there is nothing that really gets in the way of that.”
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Credit: Yardbarker

Last edited 6/11/2014 3:00 PM by Hunter07

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Posted: 6/11/2014 4:45 PM

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On no planet is Brady worse than Rivers or Roethlisberger.  Neither of them are better than Wilson either. 

Brady being miffed is a good thing.  Way to motivate the Pats guys.

 

Last edited 6/11/2014 4:51 PM by GinoC

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Posted: 6/12/2014 4:00 PM

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Last year, Tom Brady threw for 4300 yards (among his best), only just 11 INTs (among his best),  and led 5 4th-Quarter buzzer-beater, come-from-behind victories!

That his stats were (allegedly) "low" (by his own lofty standards) with a 60.5% completion percentage, and 25 TDs, were simply a function of having a wasteland of clueless, nobodies for receivers who dropped passes more often than Anthony Weiner dropped his pants.

That, plus the fact that his one and only RED ZONE player that he had, Rob Gronkowski, was injured and absent, more than he was ever healthy.
So of course some stats will be down  (take away Jerry Rice, and then what would Joe Montana's "stats" be?). 

But if you put Peyton Manning or Aaron Rogers with this group of incompetent misfits and rejects for receivers that Belichick plucked out-of-hell, and with no depth at the TE position ... then what would their stats be?    They'd be fortunate to come up with a 60% completion percentage (under those conditions), and 5 come-from-behind victories.

I don't think anyone other than Tom Brady could have taken that team all the way to the AFC-Title game (especially when you also consider the Defensive injuries and problems going on as well).

Last year was perhaps the greatest QB performance that nobody knows about. An absolutely horrible team on paper, up-and-down the whole lineup (except for just the QB, and running back positions) ...who came one win short of a Super Bowl.    Meanwhile, Manning was a total embarrassment in the Super Bowl .... with a GREAT Offense.

At some point the General Manager has to explain why his Hall-Of-Fame QB is always given uncompetitive crap for receivers for him to work with.  That's the only thing separating "top-5" stats (and Championships) ... from Tom Brady.

Not only is Tom Brady one of the top-5 QBs in the NFL, he's also one of the Top-5 QBs of All-Time to ever play the game.




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Posted: 6/12/2014 5:50 PM

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Looks like DL is off his meds.
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Posted: 6/12/2014 6:48 PM

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DL does have a point, Brady's best month was while when Gronk was healthy in November. Overall Brady was better in the second half with healthier and more reliable receivers were available.  

The Pats GM couldn't have anticipated his ace receiver in the hole would be charged with murder. Also the GM tried to obtain Fitzgerald only he wasn't actually available. 

There was no objective analysis on Brady is was perception aka opinion laced with cherry picked stats.  Why does anyone give it any credibility? Unless they just want to think Brady is over the hill and the Pats are out of it?

 

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Posted: 6/12/2014 8:06 PM

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Obviously Brady will do better with Gronk in the game. He's one of the best TE's in the game. But using that as evidence that every other skill player is useless is absurd. It's like saying: "Well, the Ferrari lost when it tried to run on 3 wheels, therefore Ferrari makes crappy cars."
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Posted: 6/13/2014 8:18 PM

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I thought he'd have him in the top 2or3 of all time..
Top 5? Possibly 4 better DL2..????
Oops forgot... If BB hadn't hindered TFB he'd be the best..

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Posted: 6/13/2014 8:58 PM

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GinoC wrote: DL does have a point, Brady's best month was while when Gronk was healthy in November. Overall Brady was better in the second half with healthier and more reliable receivers were available.  

The Pats GM couldn't have anticipated his ace receiver in the hole would be charged with murder. Also the GM tried to obtain Fitzgerald only he wasn't actually available. 

There was no objective analysis on Brady is was perception aka opinion laced with cherry picked stats.  Why does anyone give it any credibility? Unless they just want to think Brady is over the hill and the Pats are out of it?
Polls like these are irrelevant....
The time has come and gone, Here's to the 2014 Season.
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