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I am a little confused by the whole thing1. 6 million a year is cheap IMO. I assumed he was asking for like 8-9, which in no way I would have paid. A lot of experts think Amendola will get around 5-6. If thats the case then I am really confused2. I would rather he had signed anywhere but Denver. With Pitt and Baltimore losing a lot this offseason I viewed Denver as our main road block. 3. Looking way ahead, how do we cover him> our linebackers are slow as hell and our CB's are weak(as of right now)I guess it is best to sit back and let things play out, moves have to be coming
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dominicanthug wrote: So the pats couldnt give Welker 6 million dollars or 7?Thats a bargain!Smh.This is crazy.
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K1770PW wrote: This makes no sense to me, but based on the numbers involved, one thing is clear. They did not want him back. I just don't understand why.
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sakes wrote: This stinks. I think that they wanted him back but they didn't think that a good team would make him a big offer (he was never going to the Raiders, which would prove that a good team made him in the first place). I think that they gave him a low ball offer assuming that he wouldn't get as mad as he did and they would have time to match or surpass an offer. I think that Welker got ticked at the low ball and obviously signed with Manning/Denver in a heartbeat...pretty much making sure that he'll be a weapon.It's one thing for him to refuse a slight home town discount but I have a hard time disagreeing with him about getting ticked about such a low offer from us after completing a franchize tag season.
dokgonzo wrote: I know this seems like insanity, but lets keep in mind a few things:a) The notion that Brady wasn't prepared for this, and was probably in the loop on the decision, is nonsense. Of course Brady had to know this was possible and what the limits were. Unlike Flacco, he's not dumb enough to stick his nose into the situation.b) What sucks is they got nothing for WW in trade. That's what really burns me.c) BB was already trying to phase him out last year - so there was something going on that was started but not finished.d) This has kind of become SOP for the Pats - look how they rebuilt RB's and TE's. They want to get younger at WR.e) My gut tells me there's more to this than just getting younger at the WR position. The Pats have basically no WR's now, assuming Lloyd is also gone. Something else is in the works. Has to be.
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ggilpereault wrote: I dont disagree with Welker here at all. Either BB has something wrong with him...been thinking this a long while...maybe 3 years now.....or is someone else pulling the string-purse- ala Kraft....something isnt right in Pats town, hasnt been in awhile. Poor drafting, bad ego moves during games..the list goes on....and us diehard fans just get used to it....kinda like the **** in sabres town...sakes wrote: This stinks. I think that they wanted him back but they didn't think that a good team would make him a big offer (he was never going to the Raiders, which would prove that a good team made him in the first place). I think that they gave him a low ball offer assuming that he wouldn't get as mad as he did and they would have time to match or surpass an offer. I think that Welker got ticked at the low ball and obviously signed with Manning/Denver in a heartbeat...pretty much making sure that he'll be a weapon.It's one thing for him to refuse a slight home town discount but I have a hard time disagreeing with him about getting ticked about such a low offer from us after completing a franchize tag season.
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PatManpower wrote: The Pats will be fine.. We're just gonna attack from more positions now and get younger. We need to improve the D.
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dokgonzo wrote: Well, assuming they keep Edelman and Woody ... they have a complete arsenal of slot-receiver/utility-back players. Vereen and Hernandez can and have played flanker respectably, so ... oh, who am I kidding ... this sucks having Wes go the Donkeys and Seyton.
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dokgonzo wrote: Pats offered 2Y/$10M+bonuses ... Donkeys offered 2Y/$12M ... so were the Pats *really* that far off in their value assessment? No long-term deal, no $10M/year like you'd kind expect for the #1 WR in the league. Sounds to me like they were maybe a little low, but not by much. And WW jumped on the deal. Some day the real story will come out.
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dokgonzo wrote: I figure this deserves it's own thread ...Report: Welker agrees to terms with BroncosAfter six years and 565 receptions, Wes Welker is no longer a New England Patriot.The most productive receiver in the NFL from 2007-12 signed with Denver Wednesday afternoon, as first reported by ESPN’s Adam Schefter, and now will be trying to help Peyton Manning get to the Super Bowl and not Tom Brady.The Patriots chose not to franchise Welker after doing so last season, and thus he became a free agent March 12. Various reports recently had Welker and the Patriots still negotiating, but evidently those broke down just prior to the start of the new league year on Tuesday, and Welker wasted little time finding a suitor.Reports indicated Welker, who was married in June in Aspen, Col., went back to the Patriots to give them an opportunity to match Denver’s offer but ultimately the price proved too steep. Details of the contract are not yet available.The inaugural three-day “legal tampering period” over the weekend generated some interest in Welker and perhaps that led to his decision to explore the free agent waters. Once he did, the chances of him returning for a seventh season in Foxborough diminished greatly, and now he’s a member of the Broncos, who received a huge boost in their quest to top the Patriots and climb atop the AFC.Manning enjoyed a tremendous season in 2011 coming off multiple neck surgeries that prevented him from playing the previous year. Most of his passes went to the outside with Eric Decker and Demaryius Thomas doing much of the damage, but he also utilized veteran slot man Brandon Stokley. Stokley, at age 36, caught 45 passes for 544 yards (12.1-yard average) with five touchdowns. Obviously Welker, who caught 118 passes for 1,354 yards (11.5-yard average) and six touchdowns, would represent an upgrade and give the Broncos another valued weapon to their already potent passing game.
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Now that the smoke has cleared I have no issues with letting Welker walk and bringing in DA, IF we resign Volmer, Talib and bring in some other defensive helpI mean lets be honest here, without Welker and Edelman and Amendola filling in we are still a top 5 passing offense.I would rather have a passing offense that ranks 8-10 and a defense that ranks top 10 then play the game where we have to score 35 because the defense gives up 34Sign the guys mentioned above and then bring in a pass rusher
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