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Re: Official AFC Divisional Playoff thread: Patriots vs Texans

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Posted: 1/8/2013 8:32 PM

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Patriots win big again. Brady, Manning AFCCG. Lots of media people saying the Pats won't beat the Broncos in Denver if that's the match up, I say if they get that far they win and get in. Then it's a re-match Patriots/49ers SB.
The time has come..... Here's to the 2014 Season.
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Posted: 1/8/2013 10:09 PM

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The ravens will beat the broncos.I just got this feeling.They going all out for Ray ray in his final season.Also you cannot forget about Peyton's playoff record. I think the texans will bring their best game.They have to put pressure on Schaub.He is due to have one of these big games considering he has been awful.
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Posted: 1/8/2013 10:37 PM

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I don't see the Ravens, Texans, or Broncos beating the 9'ers in the SB. 

It'd be kind of fitting for Lewis to play his last game in Foxboro against BB and TB. The Ravens-Broncos all comes down to Manning. If he's anything less than perfect, they probably lose.

Ninkovich is back and looking fine in practice, so they have all their defensive weapons ready to go for Schaub. I really hope that Brady and the offense start fast for a change. If they score on their first few drives, regardless of what the Texans do, that changes the complexion of the game.
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Posted: 1/9/2013 1:36 PM

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Some tweets from this morning from various sources:

Perfect attendance at practice. Francis returns. Kraft in attendance. Ridley gets the 2-on-1 fumble drill treatment from Chung, Hightower.

BB on aggressive vs. conservative approach: "You don't win a war by digging a foxhole and sitting in it. You have to go out and attack."

BB adds: "You do what you need to do to win one game. You don't worry about your system. You don't worry about playing time."

How would Belichick describe Arian Foster's running style? "Good."
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Posted: 1/9/2013 1:52 PM

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If I'm Arian Foster, I'm a little worried about my twitter account if I lose.  You kind of have to go home and delete the avatar immediately.  It's fine to use it as motivation, but his plan has a potential embarrassing drawback. 

dokgonzo wrote: Texans' Arian Foster uses Dan Shaughnessy column for Twitter avatar

Foster's Twitter Account

The avatar:


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Posted: 1/9/2013 3:51 PM

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He'll just turtle like they've been doing a lot of during games. They will be getting tired of sticking their necks out.

Who shows up the Houston Texans or the Houston Turtles?

A bunch of paper Turtles if they lose this one big.
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Posted: 1/9/2013 5:20 PM

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In 3 of their 4 losses, Foster was held to under 50 yards. The 4th loss he was held to 96 yards. If he doesn't deliver - or if BB stops him - he's gonna look pretty foolish.
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Posted: 1/9/2013 5:46 PM

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dokgonzo wrote: In 3 of their 4 losses, Foster was held to under 50 yards. The 4th loss he was held to 96 yards. If he doesn't deliver - or if BB stops him - he's gonna look pretty foolish.
Exactly, he could make the very person that he's trying to mock, look like a genius. 

Again, motivation is fine but there's zero gain doing it publicly.
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Posted: 1/10/2013 11:31 AM

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Dont think the Patriots are going to have to beat the Broncos as I believe the Ravens are going to do it for them.....and we get to play the AFCCG at Foxborough.....what a great scenario as long as we handle the Texans which I'm pretty certain we do! I see it coming down to Patriots - 49ers in New Orleans....so we can knock off the Ravens and the 49ers as long as Brady does alot better than the last month or so....he has really been bad.....come on throwing balls at Gronk's feet like hes bowling or something....I think Brady just for some reason fires the ball like its a 100 mph fastball or something...and he has been doing that quite often...have yet to figure out why.....Go Patriots!!
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Posted: 1/10/2013 11:34 AM

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I think it plays out just that way......Patriots 49ers in Super Bowl with Denver losing to Ravens......great scenario!
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Posted: 1/10/2013 2:12 PM

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The Patriots cannot get behind by double digits and given the Texans the "M" word. Houston would like nothing better than top be able to control the tempo.

Chance favors the Prepared Mind.

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Posted: 1/10/2013 2:58 PM

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1 or 2 road teams will win this week.The pats need to try and stay balance.Dont abandon the run!Cannot get off to a slow start.I would love to see a pass rush from this team in this game.
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Posted: 1/10/2013 4:13 PM

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More bulletin board material from the Texans, this time it's Wade Phillips:
“Ah, Welker's not Green,” Phillips told ESPN.com on Thursday. “He's a good player, but he's not that big or a real athletic guy. He's a quick guy that gets open on option routes. [Brandon] Harris actually played him pretty good. He got a holding penalty that hurt us early in the game. But Harris played pretty well. … If we don't get him on a speed guy, we're in good shape.”
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Posted: 1/10/2013 6:49 PM

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When Foster carries the ball 19 times
or more the Texans are 12-0.
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Posted: 1/10/2013 10:52 PM

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DerekLarsson2 wrote:
> "He's kinda 50/50 since our last Superbowl win with 5 so so games "

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Much of that has to do with poor Pass Protection.   It is hard to fault the QB if he doesn't have any time to get the ball off,  or has to rush away his throws.  The O-Line just has not come through in their big Playoff games recently.

The other issue is that for two of those years,  their playoff losses were quite predictable -- because in one case Reche Caldwell was their #1 WR, and in another case their key receiver Wes Welker was injured and missing.  So you can't fault Brady for that either.

But despite those obstacles, the truth even despite that is this:  1)  if Wes Welker just simply made that one turnaround catch (a play that he makes 95% of the time, and also a play that David Patten made also in the first Super Bowl), and  2)  if Asante Samuel just makes an Interception where the ball went through his hands  .... then ...

   ==>  Brady has 5 Super Bowl wins right now (an all-time NFL record).   

     So that's how close he came.


The other factor here is that Eli Manning is a middle-of-the-pack QB statistically, but he heaved up a couple of prayers in the Super Bowl and his receivers made spectacular and improbable catches for him during their two game winning drives in both cases (2008 and 2012).  

So take away those improbable (and low percentage) miracle catches, and even with the other Patriot mistakes -- Brady would still have 5 Super Bowl wins right now.


Now if Brady beats Houston, and Denver/Baltimore then he will be the only QB in NFL History to take a team to 6 Super Bowl appearances.  That is staggering (plus one 16 - 0 season).


And Remember, Joe Montana had the benefit and luxury of having Jerry Rice to work with for 10 years (or whatever).    Brady only had Randy Moss to work with for just 2 years  (and he lost one very likely Super Bowl Season to a knee injury in the prime of his life).


The QB position is simply  not  the problem here.
He carries the team like no other has had to, and we've got the best QB that ever lived.

If the O-Line does its job.....no worries there!  

 
  
No to get off subject but I cant let this go... If Brady throws a good pass to Welker its a TD and if Brady does not throw a stupid pass to Grok who is injured and get pick off by a LB who cant cover me the Pats win. Brady was way more to blame last year than Welker....Ok back to the Texans talk, sorry.
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Posted: 1/10/2013 11:52 PM

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TB definetly has to play much better when the pass rushers are on his face.Before the knee injury,he was actually much better with all the pressure.This is just another opportunity for him.One problem that still bothers me is the lack of speed on this offense.The big burner.TB can cement his legacy if he ties his childhood hero,Joe Cool.Seems like it has always slip by his fingers:(
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:01 AM

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I expect them to line Vereen up as a WR a few times. He's one of the fastest guys on the team - as the Jets found out the hard way.

These next 3 years are the last window of opportunity for TB. Young defense, young RB's, awesome TE's, veteran WR's, solid OL - it's up to him to make it happen.
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Posted: 1/11/2013 5:59 AM

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DerekLarsson2 wrote:
> "He's kinda 50/50 since our last Superbowl win with 5 so so games "

Response:

Much of that has to do with poor Pass Protection.   It is hard to fault the QB if he doesn't have any time to get the ball off,  or has to rush away his throws.  The O-Line just has not come through in their big Playoff games recently.

The other issue is that for two of those years,  their playoff losses were quite predictable -- because in one case Reche Caldwell was their #1 WR, and in another case their key receiver Wes Welker was injured and missing.  So you can't fault Brady for that either.

But despite those obstacles, the truth even despite that is this:  1)  if Wes Welker just simply made that one turnaround catch (a play that he makes 95% of the time, and also a play that David Patten made also in the first Super Bowl), and  2)  if Asante Samuel just makes an Interception where the ball went through his hands  .... then ...

   ==>  Brady has 5 Super Bowl wins right now (an all-time NFL record).   

     So that's how close he came.


The other factor here is that Eli Manning is a middle-of-the-pack QB statistically, but he heaved up a couple of prayers in the Super Bowl and his receivers made spectacular and improbable catches for him during their two game winning drives in both cases (2008 and 2012).  

So take away those improbable (and low percentage) miracle catches, and even with the other Patriot mistakes -- Brady would still have 5 Super Bowl wins right now.


Now if Brady beats Houston, and Denver/Baltimore then he will be the only QB in NFL History to take a team to 6 Super Bowl appearances.  That is staggering (plus one 16 - 0 season).


And Remember, Joe Montana had the benefit and luxury of having Jerry Rice to work with for 10 years (or whatever).    Brady only had Randy Moss to work with for just 2 years  (and he lost one very likely Super Bowl Season to a knee injury in the prime of his life).


The QB position is simply  not  the problem here.
He carries the team like no other has had to, and we've got the best QB that ever lived.

If the O-Line does its job.....no worries there!  

 
  
No to get off subject but I cant let this go... If Brady throws a good pass to Welker its a TD and if Brady does not throw a stupid pass to Grok who is injured and get pick off by a LB who cant cover me the Pats win. Brady was way more to blame last year than Welker....Ok back to the Texans talk, sorry.

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Posted: 1/11/2013 8:04 AM

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If, if, if Derek. I am sure you are going to try and convince everybody that Tom Brady kicked that 45 yard field in the middle of a blizzard too. IF Vinatieri doesn't make that kick. If, if, if Derek.
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DerekLarsson2 wrote:
> "He's kinda 50/50 since our last Superbowl win with 5 so so games "

Response:

Much of that has to do with poor Pass Protection.   It is hard to fault the QB if he doesn't have any time to get the ball off,  or has to rush away his throws.  The O-Line just has not come through in their big Playoff games recently.

The other issue is that for two of those years,  their playoff losses were quite predictable -- because in one case Reche Caldwell was their #1 WR, and in another case their key receiver Wes Welker was injured and missing.  So you can't fault Brady for that either.

But despite those obstacles, the truth even despite that is this:  1)  if Wes Welker just simply made that one turnaround catch (a play that he makes 95% of the time, and also a play that David Patten made also in the first Super Bowl), and  2)  if Asante Samuel just makes an Interception where the ball went through his hands  .... then ...

   ==>  Brady has 5 Super Bowl wins right now (an all-time NFL record).   

     So that's how close he came.


The other factor here is that Eli Manning is a middle-of-the-pack QB statistically, but he heaved up a couple of prayers in the Super Bowl and his receivers made spectacular and improbable catches for him during their two game winning drives in both cases (2008 and 2012).  

So take away those improbable (andy low percentage) miracle catches, and even with the other Patriot mistakes -- Brady would still have 5 Super Bowl wins right now.


Now if Brady beats Houston, and Denver/Baltimore then he will be the only QB in NFL History to take a team to 6 Super Bowl appearances.  That is staggering (plus one 16 - 0 season).


And Remember, Joe Montana had the benefit and luxury of having Jerry Rice to work with for 10 years (or whatever).    Brady only had Randy Moss to work with for just 2 years  (and he lost one very likely Super Bowl Season to a knee injury in the prime of his life).


The QB position is simply  not  the problem here.
He carries the team like no other has had to, and we've got the best QB that ever lived.

If the O-Line does its job.....no worries there!  

 
  
No to get off subject but I cant let this go... If Brady throws a good pass to Welker its a TD and if Brady does not throw a stupid pass to Grok who is injured and get pick off by a LB who cant cover me the Pats win. Brady was way more to blame last year than Welker....Ok back to the Texans talk, sorry.

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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:38 PM

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BILL BELICHICK SAYS HIS PATRIOTS ARE LIKE NAVY SEALS: ‘ON A MISSION’

“When you talk to the Navy SEALs and those guys about when they go on a mission, [they say] ‘We get there and we had practiced going over a 6-foot wall [but] the wall is 30-feet high.’ That’s the way it is in the NFL.

“You practice for [and] you think you’re going to swim across a 200-yard lake and the lake is 800 yards. You have to get across it. You get in an NFL game and think you’re going to get this, and you get that. You think they’re going to play this guy and they play some other guy. You face new challenges. That’s part of the gamesmanship and part of the competition. You figure out which team can do it better than the other one.

“There’s always that unknown in the game. Things happen that you just can’t predict or you prepare for because they’re working on things and we don’t know what they’re doing. There will be something that will cause us to make an adjustment. I’m sure we’ll do the same thing to them somewhere along the line. Everybody has to figure it out and make the best of it.

 

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Posted: 1/11/2013 2:12 PM

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dokgonzo wrote: More bulletin board material from the Texans, this time it's Wade Phillips:
“Ah, Welker's not Green,” Phillips told ESPN.com on Thursday. “He's a good player, but he's not that big or a real athletic guy. He's a quick guy that gets open on option routes. [Brandon] Harris actually played him pretty good. He got a holding penalty that hurt us early in the game. But Harris played pretty well. … If we don't get him on a speed guy, we're in good shape.”
Horrible choice of words and to call Welker "not real athletic" is simply not true.  If Welker was just a quick guy, he could be replicated easily.  Having said that, I understand what Wade meant to say (I think) and can't really get that upset about this.
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Posted: 1/11/2013 5:25 PM

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Phillips recanted on Twitter this morning.

BB is going to town with the military references in his statements. I've never seen this from him before.
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Posted: 1/11/2013 6:02 PM

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"No to get off subject but I cant let this go...... If Brady throws a good pass to Welker its a TD and if Brady does not throw a stupid pass to Grok who is injured and..."

Wrong. 
This is lazy, simplistic logic that ignores the Football facts and circumstances.....

1.  Welker himself took the blame, and admitted that this was a catch that he makes all the time.  The ball hit him in both hands and passed right through his hands.   That is the fact.  What you forget was that  that there was a safety coming over and closing the gap to Welker's right side.  The QB is supposed to back-shoulder the pass in this case.  This is what they do in practise (they practise back-shoulder throws all the time).  Brady did the correct thing to minimize the chance of the safety getting a hand (or hands) on the ball, by placing it over to Welker's left side.  That forced Welker to do a turn-around move to catch the ball, but once again they practise that type of throw all the time.  Welker is supposed to make that catch (he got both hands on it = good enough throw).   

2. Now it is true that the throw was a little high.  Big deal.  The pocket was collapsing and you cannot expect any QB to be pin-point perfect under pressure.  Brady made the correct read, the correct type-of-throw (back-shoulder) based on where the safety was playing, and under pressure made a very catchable pass for an NFL receiver - which hit Welker in both hands .  Welker is a 100-catch, Pro-Bowl receiver with two-hands on the ball.  He is a Star player.  He is supposed to make that catch.  The QB did his job.  The Wide Receiver did not.

3. David Patten made a very similar turn-around catch in the first Super Bowl.  So Brady's throw was no worse than the first Super Bowl to Patten (Patten also had to jump and turn-around to catch it).   If Patten had dropped that pass, then they would have lost the first Super Bowl.  BUT HE DIDN'T, DID HE?  Patten did his job. Patten caught the damn ball, and Welker did not.  Anytime that a pass on the mark enough to successfully hit a NFL receiver in both hands, it is the receiver's responsibility to make the catch, especially a good one. Welker admitted that he should have caught it.    This was not the QB's fault at all.


4.  The throw to Gronk was also the correct read, and a favorable matchup.   That wasn't Brady's fault, as this was the high-percentage matchup.  It was the correct decision. Gronk just could not plant his foot and jump properly (due to the injury), and the defender beat him to the ball.  But I doubt that Gronk told Brady in the huddle ..."hey don't throw me the ball because I can't jump or pivot".  Gronk probably felt he could make the play, but just couldn't.   Two-weeks earlier, that play would have been a Touchdown throw.  



  
   
  

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Posted: 1/11/2013 6:27 PM

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And the QB isn't supposed to draw a safety on the first offensive snap of the Super Bowl. You can go on about who dropped what all you want, but that safety set the stage for everything that happened afterwards.
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Posted: 1/11/2013 6:40 PM

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DerekLarsson2 wrote:
"No to get off subject but I cant let this go...... If Brady throws a good pass to Welker its a TD and if Brady does not throw a stupid pass to Grok who is injured and..."

Wrong. 
This is lazy, simplistic logic that ignores the Football facts and circumstances.....

1.  Welker himself took the blame, and admitted that this was a catch that he makes all the time.  The ball hit him in both hands and passed right through his hands.   That is the fact.  What you forget was that  that there was a safety coming over and closing the gap to Welker's right side.  The QB is supposed to back-shoulder the pass in this case.  This is what they do in practise (they practise back-shoulder throws all the time).  Brady did the correct thing to minimize the chance of the safety getting a hand (or hands) on the ball, by placing it over to Welker's left side.  That forced Welker to do a turn-around move to catch the ball, but once again they practise that type of throw all the time.  Welker is supposed to make that catch (he got both hands on it = good enough throw).   

2. Now it is true that the throw was a little high.  Big deal.  The pocket was collapsing and you cannot expect any QB to be pin-point perfect under pressure.  Brady made the correct read, the correct type-of-throw (back-shoulder) based on where the safety was playing, and under pressure made a very catchable pass for an NFL receiver - which hit Welker in both hands .  Welker is a 100-catch, Pro-Bowl receiver with two-hands on the ball.  He is a Star player.  He is supposed to make that catch.  The QB did his job.  The Wide Receiver did not.

3. David Patten made a very similar turn-around catch in the first Super Bowl.  So Brady's throw was no worse than the first Super Bowl to Patten (Patten also had to jump and turn-around to catch it).   If Patten had dropped that pass, then they would have lost the first Super Bowl.  BUT HE DIDN'T, DID HE?  Patten did his job. Patten caught the damn ball, and Welker did not.  Anytime that a pass on the mark enough to successfully hit a NFL receiver in both hands, it is the receiver's responsibility to make the catch, especially a good one. Welker admitted that he should have caught it.    This was not the QB's fault at all.


4.  The throw to Gronk was also the correct read, and a favorable matchup.   That wasn't Brady's fault, as this was the high-percentage matchup.  It was the correct decision. Gronk just could not plant his foot and jump properly (due to the injury), and the defender beat him to the ball.  But I doubt that Gronk told Brady in the huddle ..."hey don't throw me the ball because I can't jump or pivot".  Gronk probably felt he could make the play, but just couldn't.   Two-weeks earlier, that play would have been a Touchdown throw.  



  
   
  
I you really believe this than you are either related to Tom Brady or should be banned from ever posting or talking about football again. The Safety was 7 yards away!! Watch the replay. Yes Welker could and probabally should of cauhgt it, but that was more a pass by Hugh Millen then the Start Tom Brady. Of course Welker will say he should of caught it. Problem is Brady should have tood blame because it was his fault. And you dont thow a back should pass down the seam with the CB on your outside, please.

Second the read to Gronk may have been right but he underthrew Gronk by 10 yards and Gronk couldnt run!! That pass would have been pick off if Gronk was healthy and a 7 year old was covering him. Add to that it was the begining of the 4th QTR and the Pats were driving and it was a HORRIBLE decision.

Yes, Brady can make mistakes. Go back and look at the Biggest playoff wins for the Pats. There a quite a few where the Patriots won inspite of Brady.
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Posted: 1/11/2013 7:25 PM

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I like how when Welker admits he made a bad play (if in fact he even did that) then it's because he knows he was at fault.  But when Brady admits a bad play he's just being a good teammate and covering up for somebody else who was really at fault.
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Posted: 1/11/2013 7:47 PM

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I agree and Im sorry for hijacking the game thread. I jut couldn't take the Brady love fest anymore. I am a PATRIOT fan. I dont care who's name is on the back of the Jersey. If someone messes up I tell it like I see it. Players come and go, but I will always root for my Pats. Again sorry and I will get back to the game!!
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Posted: 1/11/2013 11:19 PM

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"And the QB isn't supposed to draw a safety on the first offensive snap of the Super Bowl. You can go on about who dropped what all you want, but that safety set the stage for everything that happened afterwards."


Nonsense.  That's total hogwash.

I.  The OLINE clearly screwed-up, and failed to block anybody on the first play (with Brady standing in the end-zone).

With the pocket instantly collapsed, Brady only had just two choices there:  1) Eat the ball and Get Sacked --which would guarantee a Safety, or 2) Throw the ball away (for an incompetion), which is usually enough to avoid  #1 from happening.

Choice #2 was clearly better than choice #1, (which is exactly what Brady did).

Now NFL Officials never (or virtually never) call a downfield pass over the middle of the field as "intentional grounding".  We see QBs do that all the time, and it is never called as a penalty.  But the Refs called it that way in that game  ("intentional grounding") which was a surprise to many.

Obviously, the O-Line was to blame because they gave Brady 0-seconds to do anything.


II.  The Patriots were ahead, and winning the game throughout the second-half of the game, so obviously that play did not "set the stage for losing the game".  They were winning the game. Only the Welker drop, followed by the Giants final Offensive-Drive (Defensive meltdown) turned the tables on the Patriots.

 
  
 
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Posted: 1/11/2013 11:26 PM

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>  "The Safety was 7 yards away!!"

The safety was about 5-yards away, and these guys are serious athletes here. An NFL Free-Safety can easily close that gap in just a snap-of-a-finger once the ball is in the air, and disrupt the play --  unless the ball is thrown to the other side of the receiver.

QBs are taught to put the ball on the other side of the safety.
Minimizing risk is always the correct choice in that situation.
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Posted: 1/11/2013 11:34 PM

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The Patriots lost the game at the start of the 4th QTR. The Patriots were at mid field 1st down and Brady threw the stupidest and worst pass of his career. Even Tim Tebow said, " Man if I can make a better pass than that."He had the opertunity to put the Giants away and he blew it. Then he throws a terrible pass to Welker and people like you want to blame Welker. Im sure you blame the pencil when you misspell a word and blame McDonald's for making you fat too!!

Stat. IF Brady takes more than 3 seconds to throw his passer rating is below 40.
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Posted: 1/12/2013 12:06 AM

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I must applaud DL2 for not blaming Belichick for the safety. Yet.
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Posted: 1/12/2013 12:29 AM

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This game has me worried because of the stat of teams that have been blown out,they usually get revenge.This team has to be prepared for a texans team chomping to get revenge. I still would take Brady over any QB right now in the postseason and that includes Eli Manning.The problem here as well is that this defense hasnt gotten the big stop.TB also needs to understand that super bowl appearances dont grow like trees.He needs to grasp it!
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Posted: 1/12/2013 12:54 AM

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I disagree on the D not making big stops - the last few games have shown some tough goal-line stands, denying 4th-down conversion, and clutch turn-overs. The D is playing better than we've seen in years. Is it as good as the D on those SB-winning teams? Not yet, but they're getting there.

I do agree that they'll need to match the Texans' intensity early in the game. They'll be fired up and the Pats are coming off 2 weeks rest. The flip-side of being amped up on emotion is that it can lead to mistakes. An early turn-over could take the knees out from under Houston - it's hard to maintain that "out for revenge" mindset when you're playing catch-up.
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Posted: 1/12/2013 8:07 AM

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Jimbothekid wrote:
usernameNEP wrote:
Jimbothekid wrote: I think the Patriots and their fans need to be VERY cautious about this game. I think one thing people are forgetting is that when Houston came here before, they were on their third straight road game, which is very rare in the NFL, and two straight OT games. They also didn't really have a lot to play for at that point. I think this will be a much tougher game than many expect.

Lets see now.  For New England..........................
#1 - Healthy [for a change]
#2 - At home
#3 - Two weeks to prepare and continue to get healthy
#4 - Balance attack ~ 50% - 50% pass, run [not perfectly balanced]
#5 - Well rested CB's  {a lot of man on man coverage?]
I like New England on this one.biggrin
You are correct User, but keep in mind Houston is healthier too. I just think too that Houston will be a LOT more prepared than the last game. They need to get Arian Foster involved immediately. He actually got off to a real good start last game until the penalties.
Foster was taken out of it, early and often which is a hallmark of New England game planning. Go directly to your opponents strength. Expect more of the same? My concern is to keep Brady vertical. (sp)

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Posted: 1/12/2013 8:09 AM

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MachinaVerde wrote: slam dunk, 100% guarantee the NEP will win this game
Gun ~ We normally do not talk like that on this board.
Tell me please. A NY sports book or your Ouigi Board? biggrin

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Posted: 1/12/2013 9:11 AM

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I really want to see a more Balance play calling this game. I dont want to see Brady throwing the ball 50 times. I also hope to see better play calling on 1st down. McD has got very predictable. To me the key will be the running game for both teams.

And secondly if Welker will be able to make circus catches from Brady. :)
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Posted: 1/12/2013 12:48 PM

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I got Ravens over Broncos and 49ers over Packers today.I dont know why i am picking the ravens since Manning owns then.I just got a feeling.
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Posted: 1/12/2013 1:23 PM

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Posted: 1/12/2013 3:18 PM

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^^^lol

BB says......Get the vaseline and baby powder out.

m.nfl.com/news/0ap100000012515...y-for-patriots/
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Posted: 1/13/2013 3:12 PM

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Patriots inactive players: WR Aiken; DB Martin; DB Williams; OL McDonald; OL Zusevics; TE Fells; DE Bequette

Texans inactives: CB Carmichael; CB Routt; ILB Collins; G Caldwell; OT Gardner; G White; NT McClain
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