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Official AFC Divisional Playoff thread: Patriots vs Texans

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Posted: 1/7/2013 9:22 AM

Official AFC Divisional Playoff thread: Patriots vs Texans 


This is the official thread for the AFC Divisional playoff game between the

houston texans helmet - authentic and the new england patriots football helmet

Sunday, January 13, 2013
Gillette Stadium
4:30 PM


    Who will win the AFC Divisional playoff game?

  1. Poll closed on 01/12/2013
  2. Houston Texans: 1 vote
  3. New England Patriots: 17 votes

Chance favors the Prepared Mind.

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Posted: 1/7/2013 10:01 AM

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Early forecast calls for close to 50°. Lots of time left for them to be wrong. Game day fans will love it.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 10:48 AM

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Houston 8 &-0 @ home
4-4 on the road
I was really pulling for Cinn yesterday. I simply do not see Houston "game-planning" around that 42 point blow out three weeks ago. And to boot, it's been New England who has gotten better.
Be careful here. You can win on the scoreboard yet loose on the line. There will be a lot of money flowing into Houston. biggrin

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Posted: 1/7/2013 11:15 AM

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usernameNEP wrote:

Houston 8 &-0 @ home
4-4 on the road



Incorrect.
6-2 both home and away with losses at home to Packers and Vikings and on the road to Patriots and Colts.

Unfortunately I see the end of the road for my Texans this weekend.
The Patriots are too good and we're playing with a patchwork LB corp.
Brady James and Barrett Ruud starting inside.....disbelief
I hope I'm wrong....noidea

Good luck and hopefully both teams come out of the game healthy.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 12:10 PM

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Welcome to the board Battle. Looks like you guys are building yourself a nice little team down there. Trust me you will find most fans on this board while confident about the Pats chances never overlook any opponent. Especially one who can turn it on at any moment like the Texans. Good luck to you and lets cross our fingers for no major injuries.







   

         

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Posted: 1/7/2013 1:12 PM

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slam dunk, 100% guarantee the NEP will win this game

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Posted: 1/7/2013 1:13 PM

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I think this will be a tough one. Gronk will be back, but i dont see the Texan's starting out as bad as they did last game. I think this one will be a lower scoring game decided by a field goal late. Which does not bode well for the Pats. But still I like them to win in a close one.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 1:48 PM

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Brady is doing the "awww sucks, Gronk is working hard but we don't know how much he'll play" routine for the press today. Yeah, right.

Talib and Dennard will have had 3 weeks rest (they didn't play v. MIA) so the secondary will be sharper than the last game. An extra weeks rest for guys like Welker, Hernandez, Hightower, Spikes, Jones is also huge.

I expect the Pats O to start slow and the Pats D to start fast. BB has had a whole extra week to prepare plans for the Texans (who were the likely opponent) and if he's been spending time in the film room with the D, then this should be good.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 1:50 PM

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Posted: 1/7/2013 2:31 PM

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Seems like Dan is starving for a little attention...

Chance favors the Prepared Mind.

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Posted: 1/7/2013 4:03 PM

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^^^
Yup.....He probably wants a little 4 letter Network action....

You should go for it Morph....

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Posted: 1/7/2013 4:28 PM

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I think the Patriots and their fans need to be VERY cautious about this game. I think one thing people are forgetting is that when Houston came here before, they were on their third straight road game, which is very rare in the NFL, and two straight OT games. They also didn't really have a lot to play for at that point. I think this will be a much tougher game than many expect.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 4:41 PM

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They played for their jackets...... :-p
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Posted: 1/7/2013 5:11 PM

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I am never confident with this team.Mainly because of the defense:(I expect the texans to come in with a chip on their shoulder and maybe give TB a different look on defense.Have to stop Aryan Foster!The d-line has to get pressure on Schaub.I am waiting on Chandler Jones to have that big game. I would feel confident if we had Bruschi,Vrabel and all these over defenders from the past.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 5:35 PM

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I'm more worried about the O starting slow - which has been this team's habit in post-season for years now.

If the D starts slow, BB will do what he's been doing all season and push Patricia aside and take over. And the D has been finishing strong of late.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 5:39 PM

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The last time a team beat a team by 28 points in the regular season they lost the rematch in the playoffs. (2010 Pats vs Jets). In fact 6 of the last 8 teams that lost by 28 points in the regular season won the rematch in the playoffs.

This game will be 100% on Brady. IF he plays well the Patriots win. If he plays like he has the last 3 weeks the Patriots will be in trouble. The more I think about it, the loss to the 49ers and the lack of focus vs the Jags may end up being the best thing for the Pats. I think it gets them refocused and sets them off on a good foot.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 5:59 PM

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Id love to see pats come out and go 5 wide in hurry up, astablish dominace early, set the tempo and get the lead early. I think that alone could break the fragile texans team.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 7:03 PM

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Matt Schaub......1 TD pass in the last 23 quarters, can this be true? Their defense ranked like 27th or 28th in the last 8 games. This according to Dan Shaughnessy on CSNE DIRECTV..
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Posted: 1/7/2013 7:10 PM

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vinnybravo wrote: The last time a team beat a team by 28 points in the regular season they lost the rematch in the playoffs. (2010 Pats vs Jets). In fact 6 of the last 8 teams that lost by 28 points in the regular season won the rematch in the playoffs.

This game will be 100% on Brady. IF he plays well the Patriots win. If he plays like he has the last 3 weeks the Patriots will be in trouble. The more I think about it, the loss to the 49ers and the lack of focus vs the Jags may end up being the best thing for the Pats. I think it gets them refocused and sets them off on a good foot.
I have some Hinkeys too.  They can't get overconfident.  They must expect the unexpected, that's what happened vs the Jets in 2010.

 

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Posted: 1/7/2013 7:22 PM

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"Matt Schaub......1 TD pass in the last 23 quarters, can this be true?"
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I truly hope not, - because that old "law of averages" is going to straighten things out if it is. - While he may not be another Brady, - he's not that bad either.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 7:24 PM

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Yeah ... looks like 1 TD in last 23 quarters alright. And 4 INT's.

Stop Foster and you stop Houston. Simple as that. The way the D has been playing since Talib showed up, I don't see HOU beating the Pats in the air.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 7:40 PM

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Don't let the wife 'n kids read this: Playoff QB's Facebook Discussion
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Posted: 1/7/2013 9:12 PM

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Dok where do find this stuff.  Outstanding way to close out my Monday workday.
Great Post.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 9:21 PM

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Made me cry laugh...It freakin hurt..LOL
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Posted: 1/8/2013 8:27 AM

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battleredtexan wrote:
usernameNEP wrote:

Houston 8 &-0 @ home
4-4 on the road



Incorrect.
6-2 both home and away with losses at home to Packers and Vikings and on the road to Patriots and Colts.

Unfortunately I see the end of the road for my Texans this weekend.
The Patriots are too good and we're playing with a patchwork LB corp.
Brady James and Barrett Ruud starting inside.....disbelief
I hope I'm wrong....noidea

Good luck and hopefully both teams come out of the game healthy.

Well, you got me ! Congraulations..... Mixed them up with Seattle. Sure hope the Texans bring their A Game to Foxboro this weekend. . . . . game healthy for sure.

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Posted: 1/8/2013 8:31 AM

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Hunter07 wrote: "Matt Schaub......1 TD pass in the last 23 quarters, can this be true?"
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I truly hope not, - because that old "law of averages" is going to straighten things out if it is. - While he may not be another Brady, - he's not that bad either.

Come Sunday, nothing gets straightened out for "those guys"biggrin

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Posted: 1/8/2013 8:38 AM

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Jimbothekid wrote: I think the Patriots and their fans need to be VERY cautious about this game. I think one thing people are forgetting is that when Houston came here before, they were on their third straight road game, which is very rare in the NFL, and two straight OT games. They also didn't really have a lot to play for at that point. I think this will be a much tougher game than many expect.

Lets see now.  For New England..........................
#1 - Healthy [for a change]
#2 - At home
#3 - Two weeks to prepare and continue to get healthy
#4 - Balance attack ~ 50% - 50% pass, run [not perfectly balanced]
#5 - Well rested CB's  {a lot of man on man coverage?]
I like New England on this one.biggrin

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Posted: 1/8/2013 8:59 AM

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"Come Sunday, nothing gets straightened out for "those guys"biggrin
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Tell you what, - I'm not into predictions, but my "guess is" Houston gets two passing TD's. ... wink

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Posted: 1/8/2013 9:32 AM

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One thing I've heard with the extra week is the team is able to do self analysis that they really don't have time for otherwise.

What will we do to adjust situations can be covered in more depth. And I said "covered" on purpose...lol
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Posted: 1/8/2013 9:55 AM

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PatManpower wrote: ^^^
Yup.....He probably wants a little 4 letter Network action....

You should go for it Morph....

That would be cool, then I could pick everybodies tweets and posts and air them nationally.

Chance favors the Prepared Mind.

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Posted: 1/8/2013 10:05 AM

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One thing is the Patriots better not take this gamer lightly. I can see Lloyd not having the monster game he had before. Not sure how "healthy" Gronk will be. I'm sure the extra week of rest will help.

Schaub will have at least one TD pass, maybe two. The Patriots best bet is to get an early lead and make Houston play catch up. Game could get real interesting if Houston gets the lead and sits on the ball with a good running game kepping Brady off the field. ANd if they get a stop or turnover after that, the home teams fans will get really nervous.

I would not be surprised at a close game or a blow out. Either could happen.

Chance favors the Prepared Mind.

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Posted: 1/8/2013 1:24 PM

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Only player missing from practice was rookie DE Justin Francis. Hasn't been on an injury report since Sept. 27th.

BB has been talking some about rematches and I'm sure he's aware of the difficulty of beating a team twice in a short span of time. I don't think the Pats are going to take this lightly - especially not Vince or Brady who remember the fateful home playoff games against the Jets and Ravens.

The trick will be stopping the Texans initial surge in the 1st - they're going to be amped up and the Pats seem to start slow. If they can get through the 1st 20 minutes close or with a lead, they should be OK.
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Posted: 1/8/2013 3:39 PM

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usernameNEP wrote:
Jimbothekid wrote: I think the Patriots and their fans need to be VERY cautious about this game. I think one thing people are forgetting is that when Houston came here before, they were on their third straight road game, which is very rare in the NFL, and two straight OT games. They also didn't really have a lot to play for at that point. I think this will be a much tougher game than many expect.

Lets see now.  For New England..........................
#1 - Healthy [for a change]
#2 - At home
#3 - Two weeks to prepare and continue to get healthy
#4 - Balance attack ~ 50% - 50% pass, run [not perfectly balanced]
#5 - Well rested CB's  {a lot of man on man coverage?]
I like New England on this one.biggrin
You are correct User, but keep in mind Houston is healthier too. I just think too that Houston will be a LOT more prepared than the last game. They need to get Arian Foster involved immediately. He actually got off to a real good start last game until the penalties.
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Posted: 1/8/2013 4:56 PM

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Everyone thinks this game is just a slam-dunk for the Patriots, but I don't see it necessarily unfolding like that a second straight time.

I think the Patriots will win the game.  They are the better team, but it will be a close and tougher game for them, and a lot different from week 14.  Here's why:

Week 14:

1.  On Houston's first possession, Arian Foster ripped-off 3 consecutive runs through the Patriots Defense like butter for about 15-yards each, but one of them was called back on a penalty (which changed the field position about 25 yards).  Penalties in the game worked to the Patriots advantage and helped the Patriots Defense get off the field, and from there then jump out to an early lead.    And once Houston fell behind, they panicked and moved away from their strength...running the football.  QB Matt Schaub can't win the game, only Foster really can.  So they won't make that same mistake again.  And in a closer game, Foster would be a threat all day long.


2.   J.J. Watt didn't have any "sacks" in that game, but he still got into the backfield and hit Brady hard and knocked him down many times.  He and the Houston Defense forced two Patriot fumbles, but in both cases the ball bounced in a way that allowed the Patriots to recover both times (resulting in 2 of their TDs).  But at one point in the game Houston's Defense forced three consecutive 3-and-outs (on the Patriots).   Expect J.J. Watt to make a few plays (that count for something) this time around.


3. Houston did a good job of handling Wes Welker, which forced Brady to make some big passing plays elsewhere over to Brandon Lloyd and Donte Stallworth (both for TDs).  Stallworth is gone, and Lloyd does not usually play at that level


4. In 2010, The Patriots totally blew away the NY Jets just a few weeks before the Playoffs, but then it was a different story in the Playoffs and the Patriots didn't play a smart game (fake punt, poor clock management).

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There are two big keys to the game for the Patriots:  

1.  Protect Brady in the pocket
2.  Keep Foster to under 100-yards

If they can do those things well enough then they should win the game.  But those things are easier said then done, and it will be harder a second time.

 

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Posted: 1/8/2013 5:18 PM

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I would tend to agree Derek, ... blowing them out last time was nice etc. - but VERY unlikely this time. - Remember when we blew out the Jets, forget the score, but it was huge. - If I remember right, the next time they met the Jets won.
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Posted: 1/8/2013 5:23 PM

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Coach will as usual take away what they do best....probably Foster and Brady and company will do the rest....come on they had to beat Cincinnati with mainly field goals...not saying the game will be same as last but I do believe Patriots win with not to much issue. Id be surprised to see the upset this game....go Patriots!!

Brady for sure has to be at his best though...as he hasn't quite been Brady of late..but he always seems to get a pass on it so he keeps on the same....

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Posted: 1/8/2013 5:26 PM

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I hope Brady plays well. He's kinda 50/50 since our last Superbowl win with 5 so so games and a terrible AFC championship last year.
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Posted: 1/8/2013 5:40 PM

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One thing I saw in the last game that I really don't want to see this game is Foster splitting out wide and the Pats putting Mayo out one on one with him.  They got away with it last time because the Texans either weren't trying or were not able to get it out to him more.  Mayo did do a decent job on those matchups but it's not something you want to keep taking the chance on.  Hopefully they'll be able to vary their coverages enough so the Texans can't try to attack it.
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Posted: 1/8/2013 6:44 PM

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Shaughnessy needs to quit waving his pom poms.The texans are a good football team.Obviously he forgot what happened to this team,two years ago! The patriots defense has to show up and stop Arian Foster.I really expect a tough game.Brady has to hit these wrs on point.
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> "He's kinda 50/50 since our last Superbowl win with 5 so so games "

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Much of that has to do with poor Pass Protection.   It is hard to fault the QB if he doesn't have any time to get the ball off,  or has to rush away his throws.  The O-Line just has not come through in their big Playoff games recently.

The other issue is that for two of those years,  their playoff losses were quite predictable -- because in one case Reche Caldwell was their #1 WR, and in another case their key receiver Wes Welker was injured and missing.  So you can't fault Brady for that either.

But despite those obstacles, the truth even despite that is this:  1)  if Wes Welker just simply made that one turnaround catch (a play that he makes 95% of the time, and also a play that David Patten made also in the first Super Bowl), and  2)  if Asante Samuel just makes an Interception where the ball went through his hands  .... then ...

   ==>  Brady has 5 Super Bowl wins right now (an all-time NFL record).   

     So that's how close he came.


The other factor here is that Eli Manning is a middle-of-the-pack QB statistically, but he heaved up a couple of prayers in the Super Bowl and his receivers made spectacular and improbable catches for him during their two game winning drives in both cases (2008 and 2012).  

So take away those improbable (and low percentage) miracle catches, and even with the other Patriot mistakes -- Brady would still have 5 Super Bowl wins right now.


Now if Brady beats Houston, and Denver/Baltimore then he will be the only QB in NFL History to take a team to 6 Super Bowl appearances.  That is staggering (plus one 16 - 0 season).


And Remember, Joe Montana had the benefit and luxury of having Jerry Rice to work with for 10 years (or whatever).    Brady only had Randy Moss to work with for just 2 years  (and he lost one very likely Super Bowl Season to a knee injury in the prime of his life).


The QB position is simply  not  the problem here.
He carries the team like no other has had to, and we've got the best QB that ever lived.

If the O-Line does its job.....no worries there!  

 
  

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