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Aqib Talib Watch:

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Posted: 11/15/2012 2:16 PM

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The most significant thing to watch for this week, aside from how well Rookie QB Andrew Luck plays, is the Patriots acquisition of an actual legitimate CB -- Aqib Talib.

One look at him, and just the physical contrast alone is striking and apparent.  Unlike the typical Bill Belichick-picked CB, Aqib Talib is a tall 6' 1"+, with a wide and big frame, and is very athletic.  He looks the part of an NFL shutdown corner.

He may also be an insane, moronoric, nut job, with anger management issues as well. But this is a guy here who looks like he can actually play some Football, and present problems for Wide Receivers. 

The hope that I have is that Talib is permitted to play man-to-man coverage on Reggie Wayne, and keep in check Andrew Luck's favorite weapon, and then free-up the rest of the Defense to contain the other players.  We'll see.

So far there is not much video on him on the Patriots practise field that I've seen.

Any news on how he's doing so far?


  

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Posted: 11/15/2012 3:54 PM

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He won't need much of a playbook to stick to one man. He either does or doesn't, but that's what I suspect they will do other than playing it more aggressively all around

 

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Posted: 11/15/2012 4:24 PM

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Some tweets from the Boston sportswriters today after talking w/Talib:

The other takeaway from Aqib Talib interview was that he doesn't think X's and O's will be huge issue. Made it sound simple -- CBs cover.

Aqib Talib, when asked how he would describe himself off the field, said, "I'm a competitor on the field." ... Sums up theme of interview.

Talib says he's played all kinds of coverages and is ready to do whatever he needs to.

Talib: "Guys have been great. They've embraced me. I love this team."

Talib says he was "surprised by trade but kind of not surprised."

Talib on meeting w/BB: "We kind of just talked straight football. He didn't bring up the past. I didn't bring up the past."

Talib said Brady introduced himself and told him, "'You need anything, man, just let me know.'"

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Posted: 11/16/2012 1:49 PM

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DerekLarsson2 wrote:

The most significant thing to watch for this week, aside from how well Rookie QB Andrew Luck plays, is the Patriots acquisition of an actual legitimate CB -- Aqib Talib.

One look at him, and just the physical contrast alone is striking and apparent.  Unlike the typical Bill Belichick-picked CB, Aqib Talib is a tall 6' 1"+, with a wide and big frame, and is very athletic.  He looks the part of an NFL shutdown corner.

He may also be an insane, moronoric, nut job, with anger management issues as well. But this is a guy here who looks like he can actually play some Football, and present problems for Wide Receivers. 

The hope that I have is that Talib is permitted to play man-to-man coverage on Reggie Wayne, and keep in check Andrew Luck's favorite weapon, and then free-up the rest of the Defense to contain the other players.  We'll see.

So far there is not much video on him on the Patriots practise field that I've seen.

Any news on how he's doing so far?


  
I think a better term is "cover corner". The DB's that BB seems to draft seem to excel more at Zone than pure cover coeners.
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Posted: 11/16/2012 3:10 PM

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Arrington and Gregory said today that they think Talib is picking things up fast. My guess is they'll have him cover Wayne and keep it at that. I saw a report that he was mainly working on the side where McCourty plays, so homefully that means McC is moving to safety on a semi-permanent basis.
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Posted: 11/16/2012 3:50 PM

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> "I think a better term is 'cover corner'. The DB's that BB seems to draft seem to excel more at Zone than pure cover corners."


The DBs that Belichick drafts I don't think have excelled at anything.

They are clearly not cover corners, but they also more generally do not even represent the best DB talent available from the Draft selection from where they pick on any level at all.  This comes perhaps from his desire to overweight special-teams concerns, or just bad player analysis on his part.

Belichick just doesn't do well picking DBs and WRs period.   He does a lot better with the other positions....



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Posted: 11/16/2012 10:10 PM

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DerekLarsson2 wrote:
> "I think a better term is 'cover corner'. The DB's that BB seems to draft seem to excel more at Zone than pure cover corners."


The DBs that Belichick drafts I don't think have excelled at anything.

They are clearly not cover corners, but they also more generally do not even represent the best DB talent available from the Draft selection from where they pick on any level at all.  This comes perhaps from his desire to overweight special-teams concerns, or just bad player analysis on his part.

Belichick just doesn't do well picking DBs and WRs period.   He does a lot better with the other positions....





He certainly did a good job realizing that Moss wasn't washed up in Oakland, that Welker was worth a 2nd rounder and that Gronk and Hernandez were good enough to be high picks.  The rookies have just stunk. 

I think BB looked at the rule changes favoring the offense and did a good job moving the Patriots towards a 2001-Colts like offense.  However, I think that he decided the rules went against physical CB's like Ty Law and when players like Assante Samuel were starting to demand large contracts, he wanted to create a system of smaller, rotatable, lower paid players who could get the job done in zone by limiting scores and making opposing QB's play flawlessly, if he had a good front 7 and Brady and the helm.  In theory, it sounds like a good idea.  It's just that QB's seem to play flawlessly.
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Posted: 11/16/2012 11:12 PM

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But how many really good WR's and DB's are there in each draft? Maybe 2 or 3 tops, everyone else is a huge maybe. Since the Pats rarely pick in the first 20, they won't be getting those 2 or 3 really good players.

WR's have a tough time in NE - rookies often can't hack it - but the same happens to veterans, as we've seen. The players who "get it" suddenly thrive and have record seasons.
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