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Asst Coach Chris Waller

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Posted: 08/24/2013 10:21 PM

Asst Coach Chris Waller 


Don't know how much of this has gotten out locally , or even if it will all come to fruition, but it's big buzz in the gymnastics world

Looks like Chris will begin training two of the most prominent gymnasts in the world in his gym up in Santa Clarita

Jordyn Wieber (we knew about this since she is starting UCLA next month), and Olympic gold medalist Gaby Douglas, which we are just hearing about.

Now, both of those have already made millions and long ago lost their NCAA eligibility. But you wonder  what kind of effect this may have on recruiting, which was already strong

Here's the Link 


Last edited 08/24/2013 10:22 PM by Bruinlark

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Posted: 08/25/2013 7:43 AM

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It will probably do wonders for his gym but I'm wondering how much it will benefit UCLA.

Recruiting top elites is tough because you can't touch the best ones since they all become pros before they're even old enough to drive.
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Posted: 08/25/2013 8:40 AM

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AndersonMBA2007 wrote: It will probably do wonders for his gym but I'm wondering how much it will benefit UCLA.

Recruiting top elites is tough because you can't touch the best ones since they all become pros before they're even old enough to drive.
If he wants to leverage it this can be huge.

He can recruit 8th graders to his gym, telling them they can train with Wieber, Douglas et al, and put together a gym with lots of elites.

Then he can recruit from his own gym, choosing the best and brightest to offer scholarships to UCLA.

Also with Waller's Gymjam and Val's connections with SeaWorld there's jobs out there for UCLA gymnastics grads

And it's all legal.

It would be like a UCLA asst hoops coach being able to field a year round AAU team, have Paul and Griffen and Kobe train, work out and coach  at the same gym and be able to recruit players for UCLA out of that same gym.

Not allowed in hoops, but okay in gymnastics.
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Posted: 08/25/2013 8:50 AM

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Do you think he would be able to draw kids from out of the SoCal area?  I know that Gabby Douglas moved from VA to Iowa to train with Chow, but I think sending your kid away to live in L.A. is much different than sending them to Iowa from both a financial and a lifestyle standpoint.

Selfishly, I hope this at least leads to a Wieber/Douglas autograph signing at Pauley this year.  I have a Sports Illustrated that I'd like signed. biggrin

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Posted: 08/25/2013 9:16 AM

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Who knows? I do know that elite gymnasts are usually pretty comfortable being a long way from home.

And they have parents who usually have the wherewithal to send them wherever they think they can get the best training

And l am confident that in our recruiting pitch we will drop the names of all the Olympic level gymnasts our coaches are working with, including the 2 Canadians and 2 Brits who are on the team. 

Finally I'll bet you a quarter we will see Wieber and Douglas at more than one meet this year - heck, might as well have Maroney and Ross drop by too (altho' I hear Ross is leaning to Stanford)
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Posted: 08/25/2013 10:01 AM

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Bruinlark wrote: Who knows? I do know that elite gymnasts are usually pretty comfortable being a long way from home.

And they have parents who usually have the wherewithal to send them wherever they think they can get the best training

And l am confident that in our recruiting pitch we will drop the names of all the Olympic level gymnasts our coaches are working with, including the 2 Canadians and 2 Brits who are on the team. 

Finally I'll bet you a quarter we will see Wieber and Douglas at more than one meet this year - heck, might as well have Maroney and Ross drop by too (altho' I hear Ross is leaning to Stanford)
I'll see your quarter and raise you a stick of gum!
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Posted: 08/25/2013 9:50 PM

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I was invited to attend the event on Saturday night at his Gym-Jam but I had a previous engagement.  He had told me that Gaby and Jordyn were going to be there as well as some big names in the mens gymnastics world.  

Anyway, the event was to kick off a fundraiser to build a world class facility here in Santa Clarita.  It will expand his current gym by 3 times it's current size as well as feature the best equipment money can by.  It is an incredibly ambitious project but there is no doubt that it will attract world class athletes from around the country to train with Chris.  More importantly, it ties Chris to Los Angeles so that he will step in to take over for Coach Val when she retires. 

Lark is right - it's the buzz of the gymnastics world.  We have a friend in No Cal with and 8 year old daughter at level 8 and already they are talking about moving down here part of the year to train with Waller when the new gym opens.
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Posted: 08/26/2013 12:49 PM

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I don't think there is a top gym in the country with a direct tie to a university like Waller's. We might be looking at a WOGA level gym that can directly feed into UCLA's teams. Although many gymnasts are NCAA ineligible, there still are the Sam Pesczeks, the Bridget Sloans of the world.

And it's all NCAA-legal?
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Posted: 08/28/2013 5:54 AM

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UCLA men's gymnastics team again some day with Chris as the head coach.  I also think we're close to achieving world peace, slowing the inexorable march towards irreversible climate change, and reducing political gridlock in D.C.


"There is no conspiracy. Just an incompetent AD. His handling of the search, and everything since then, has been abysmal." - Greg Hicks, 19 May 2013

"...and Guerrero panicked when he missed on his top guys." - Greg Hicks, 30 March 2014
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Posted: 08/28/2013 9:24 AM

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Chris trains a lot of boys at his gym.  I know for a fact he is working to get the mens program restarted at UCLA.  If started, I would think it would be a very short period before we are at the top again.
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Posted: 08/28/2013 9:04 PM

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I believe the Men's Gymnastics program cannot be restarted unless we are Title IX compliant.  This will require additional Women's teams to be started (maybe Sand Volleyball will help).  The numbers need to balance.  There is sufficient funding.

 

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Posted: 08/28/2013 9:12 PM

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bidabruin wrote: I believe the Men's Gymnastics program cannot be restarted unless we are Title IX compliant.  This will require additional Women's teams to be started (maybe Sand Volleyball will help).  The numbers need to balance.  There is sufficient funding.
I'm curious how sand volleyball would figure in to Title IX compliance.  Last year's roster of sand volleyball were all players from the indoor team as well.  Do they count once each for indoor and sand, or does one person count just once, regardless of how many sports they play?
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Posted: 08/28/2013 9:32 PM

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From what I understand, they count as separate sports despite the fact that most all of the sand teams consist of indoor players.  In fact, many schools including oregon are considering adding it just to become title IX compliant. Title IX proponents are up in arms about this because it's not creating new opportunities but rather just shifting student/athletes around.  It's a loophole for sure.
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Posted: 08/29/2013 8:51 AM

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Finally I'll bet you a quarter we will see Wieber and Douglas at more than one meet this year - heck, might as well have Maroney and Ross drop by too (altho' I hear Ross is leaning to Stanford)

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Who else do you hear is leaning towards Stanford? What gymnasts are Stanford recruiting? Thanks!
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Posted: 08/29/2013 3:10 PM

Isn't it about equal scholarship counts between men and women? 


So even tho they have a new sport, are there new scholarships available for sand vball? I'd like to understand how this all works.
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Posted: 08/29/2013 10:01 PM

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There were 3 scholarships for sand volleyball available in the first year, and they can add one more until they reach 6.  Sand volleyball is an equivalency sport, meaning that a school can split up the 6 scholarships in any way that they want (i.e. they can put 12 girls on half scholarships).

If a player on scholarship plays both indoor and sand, then the scholarship counts toward the indoor total (they are allowed up to 12, and it's a head count sport, meaning that only full scholarships can be awarded).

Everyone who played sand last year also played indoor, so I'm guessing that UCLA did not use any of its sand scholarships.
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Posted: 08/30/2013 4:40 PM

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AndersonMBA2007 wrote: There were 3 scholarships for sand volleyball available in the first year, and they can add one more until they reach 6.  Sand volleyball is an equivalency sport, meaning that a school can split up the 6 scholarships in any way that they want (i.e. they can put 12 girls on half scholarships).

If a player on scholarship plays both indoor and sand, then the scholarship counts toward the indoor total (they are allowed up to 12, and it's a head count sport, meaning that only full scholarships can be awarded).

Everyone who played sand last year also played indoor, so I'm guessing that UCLA did not use any of its sand scholarships.

One small correction:  For indoor VB, schools can give partial scholarships, but for the purposes of the 12 scholarship maximum, they count the same as a full scholarship.  There are some low-level D-1 schools, with tight budget constraints, who give partials.
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