I think Del Rio is a good defensive coach. I'm just not sure if he has what it takes to ever be more than a average coach. I do admit that Del Rio has not had the benefit of having a good QB since he came here and that does effect his win totals. However, Del Rio constantly has this team unprepared against usually inferior opponents. His record after the bye week is horrible and his team constantly plays down to the level of the opponent. His decision-making overall is certainly questionable. Why bench your 8th overall pick just because Tra Thomas played well against the Titans a few weeks ago? How can Eugene Monroe mature as a player by riding the bench? This team has too much invested in Monroe to have this happen not to mention the OLine needs to gel and have the same players start as much as possible. I am curious as to what you guys think of Del Rio. Should he be fired after the season? If so, who should the Jaguars hire as his replacement? Gruden? Shanahan? Cowher? Mariucci?

***IF*** they fire him I think we would end up with an unknown coach since we would still be paying 5 million a year to JDR. Tha said I think less than 6 wins and he is in trouble, anything over 6 wins buys him another year

Is it possible that Weaver will go with someone already with the team..like maybe Mike Tice?

jpon87 wrote: I may be alone, but I honestly fully expected everything we saw yesterday.

I fully expected everything we saw yesterday too, but I do not share your feelings on the rest

Defense yesterday bothered me way more than the O-line/passing struggles (although a healthy dose of early running would probably have opened up the passing game a bit more). I am no coach, but I could easily see from the Titan's first posession that our D-lineman were all playing very high and couldn't get their hands free to make plays.....this puts a lot of pressure on our backers. I think with Rashean and Cox, we have a pretty solid duo of CB's and I've loved Brackenridge this year but we probably have the worst Safety duo in the NFL. It's really no surprise to me that we don't get sacks because our front 7 know in the back of their minds that the back-end coverage/tackling can't be counted on.

Its funny, I think I am beginning to come around on the whole fire Del Rio thing. Not necessarily because I think he sucks as a coach. There's just something that I can't put my finger on... That leads me to think that perhaps its just time for a change. Get a young Qb in here next year and a new coach. Lets start fresh. Thats kind of where I'm at at this point...

Some of his decisions just confuse me. why does he constantly keep changing he O-Line? Monroe should have started this game. Secondly, Why is Nelson starting at corner? The secondary should have been Cox and Brackenridge at CB with starks at nickleback and Nelson and Alexander at safety. Russell and Considine are horrible. We have to address the safety position at some point. When a team is so up and down as the Jaguars are, that means its a yong team still finding its way. But when you get blown out every other week and the team is lackluster, thats coaching. 

Sec124Cap wrote:

Its funny, I think I am beginning to come around on the whole fire Del Rio thing. Not necessarily because I think he sucks as a coach. There's just something that I can't put my finger on... That leads me to think that perhaps its just time for a change. Get a young Qb in here next year and a new coach. Lets start fresh. Thats kind of where I'm at at this point...

My biggest gripe about Del Rio has been the apparent lack of "readiness" his teams show at such bad times.....and it has been this way since his start. This was a trap game. EVERYONE knew it. He even said they were surprised by NOTHING they saw. Hell, they were even calling the plays according to JDR! I know it is up to the players, ultimately, to execute, but why is it that time after time HIS players on HIS teams are unable to execute? It has happened every year at least once.

If a Coughlin coached team had ever played that way.....OH WAIT!!!.

JagsMac wrote:

 

Sec124Cap wrote:

Its funny, I think I am beginning to come around on the whole fire Del Rio thing. Not necessarily because I think he sucks as a coach. There's just something that I can't put my finger on... That leads me to think that perhaps its just time for a change. Get a young Qb in here next year and a new coach. Lets start fresh. Thats kind of where I'm at at this point...

My biggest gripe about Del Rio has been the apparent lack of "readiness" his teams show at such bad times.....and it has been this way since his start. This was a trap game. EVERYONE knew it. He even said they were surprised by NOTHING they saw. Hell, they were even calling the plays according to JDR! I know it is up to the players, ultimately, to execute, but why is it that time after time HIS players on HIS teams are unable to execute? It has happened every year at least once.

 

If a Coughlin coached team had ever played that way.....OH WAIT!!!.

I came on this board to post pretty much the exact same things as the two posts above. Its the same old things, even with completely new players, what does that tell you? Del Rio is not preparing them.

I've been a big Del Rio supporter since Day 1, but my biggest gripe with him has been our inability to win AFC South games under his leadership. My expectations about this season have been somewhat in check. And I realize the roster is young and you have to experience the highs/lows of a team growing together. And not having the personnel to play good defensive football is a black eye for any team. But stop with the promises, Jack, of "we're going to be a good football team" or "we're chopping wood" or "we're working hard." I've really had it with the cliches.

I am a believer of "players, not plays." My hope is that we finally get those players so we can finally win some damn divisional games.

As long as Garrard is the QB and JDR is the coach, the Jaguars will NEVER win a division title.

As long as Peyton Manning is in the AFC South, we'll never win a division title.

jonesdrew32 wrote:

As long as Garrard is the QB and JDR is the coach, the Jaguars will NEVER win a division title.

I honestly believe its the QB more so than the coach, its not even funny how bad Garrard is when we get blown out.  We should be 2-5 right now, but we got lucky that our kicker missed a PAT and we got the ball for the start of overtime, Garrard almost flat out blew that game.

It was more evident than I have ever seen it that we need youth and freshness at that position, we need a Jimmy Clausen.  JDR would have a much better winning percentage if he had a decent QB.  Its hard to stay consistent from game to game as a team when you are completely inconsistent at that position.

That doesnt mean Im not open to a new coach either and a fresh start, but be careful what ou wish for.

jonesdrew32 wrote:

As long as Garrard is the QB and JDR is the coach, the Jaguars will NEVER win a division title.

That happens to every team once or twice a year, it happens.  What I dont like is that at the professional level, a football player should know how to tackle, yesterday's game was an abomination of poor fundamentals a coach SHOULD NOT have to teach.  Reggie Nelson is a terrible pro football player, there is buts about it, there is not a position he can even play poorly or below average, he is absolutely terrible.

JagsMac wrote:

It has happened every year at least once.

 

If it wasn't apparent before yesterday is should be now...Garrard was downright awful yesterday.  I really think our offense will be limited the rest of the way because the coaching staff no longer has confidence that Garrard can make the throws.

I don't know if we'll get our hands on Claussen but I'd settle for Ponder or Bradford (if his shoulder pans out)...I don't want to be forced into taking a QB if say Suh or Berry were available but we damn sure need a consistent QB.

Joshman7982 wrote:

I honestly believe its the QB more so than the coach, its not even funny how bad Garrard is when we get blown out.  We should be 2-5 right now, but we got lucky that our kicker missed a PAT and we got the ball for the start of overtime, Garrard almost flat out blew that game.

 

It was more evident than I have ever seen it that we need youth and freshness at that position, we need a Jimmy Clausen.  JDR would have a much better winning percentage if he had a decent QB.  Its hard to stay consistent from game to game as a team when you are completely inconsistent at that position.

 

That doesnt mean Im not open to a new coach either and a fresh start, but be careful what ou wish for.

jonesdrew32 wrote:

As long as Garrard is the QB and JDR is the coach, the Jaguars will NEVER win a division title.

 

 What is it about Pike that made you not list him here. Because I think he and Ponder are the most NFL ready QB's. BTW, Suh will not be available when the Jaguars pick.(Well he may be available if the Jaguars keep playing the way they did yesterday) I dont think I have ever seen a DT dominate the way he does at the college level. He reminds me of a guy named Alan Page. Used to play with the Vikings. He was a DE at Notre Dame and dominated the same way this guy Suh does. I also think Suh would be a great fit at DE in a run stuffing 3-4.

JagHombre22 wrote:

If it wasn't apparent before yesterday is should be now...Garrard was downright awful yesterday.  I really think our offense will be limited the rest of the way because the coaching staff no longer has confidence that Garrard can make the throws.

 

I don't know if we'll get our hands on Claussen but I'd settle for Ponder or Bradford (if his shoulder pans out)...I don't want to be forced into taking a QB if say Suh or Berry were available but we damn sure need a consistent QB.

Joshman7982 wrote:

I honestly believe its the QB more so than the coach, its not even funny how bad Garrard is when we get blown out.  We should be 2-5 right now, but we got lucky that our kicker missed a PAT and we got the ball for the start of overtime, Garrard almost flat out blew that game.

 

It was more evident than I have ever seen it that we need youth and freshness at that position, we need a Jimmy Clausen.  JDR would have a much better winning percentage if he had a decent QB.  Its hard to stay consistent from game to game as a team when you are completely inconsistent at that position.

 

That doesnt mean Im not open to a new coach either and a fresh start, but be careful what ou wish for.

jonesdrew32 wrote:

As long as Garrard is the QB and JDR is the coach, the Jaguars will NEVER win a division title.

 

 

To be honest with you...I think Pike is somewhat the product of the system there at Cincinnati...when the backup QB can come in and play just as well as the starting QB was playing, that's indictive to a good system.

Don't get me wrong, I think Pike will be a decent NFL QB, but I don't think he's 1st round material.

jonesdrew32 wrote:

What is it about Pike that made you not list him here. Because I think he and Ponder are the most NFL ready QB's. BTW, Suh will not be available when the Jaguars pick.(Well he may be available if the Jaguars keep playing the way they did yesterday) I dont think I have ever seen a DT dominate the way he does at the college level. He reminds me of a guy named Alan Page. Used to play with the Vikings. He was a DE at Notre Dame and dominated the same way this guy Suh does. I also think Suh would be a great fit at DE in a run stuffing 3-4.

JagHombre22 wrote:

If it wasn't apparent before yesterday is should be now...Garrard was downright awful yesterday.  I really think our offense will be limited the rest of the way because the coaching staff no longer has confidence that Garrard can make the throws.

 

I don't know if we'll get our hands on Claussen but I'd settle for Ponder or Bradford (if his shoulder pans out)...I don't want to be forced into taking a QB if say Suh or Berry were available but we damn sure need a consistent QB.

Joshman7982 wrote:

I honestly believe its the QB more so than the coach, its not even funny how bad Garrard is when we get blown out.  We should be 2-5 right now, but we got lucky that our kicker missed a PAT and we got the ball for the start of overtime, Garrard almost flat out blew that game.

 

It was more evident than I have ever seen it that we need youth and freshness at that position, we need a Jimmy Clausen.  JDR would have a much better winning percentage if he had a decent QB.  Its hard to stay consistent from game to game as a team when you are completely inconsistent at that position.

 

That doesnt mean Im not open to a new coach either and a fresh start, but be careful what ou wish for.

jonesdrew32 wrote:

As long as Garrard is the QB and JDR is the coach, the Jaguars will NEVER win a division title.