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Reports: Flacco's cap hit this year is 7 mil

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Posted: 3/3/2013 8:46 AM

Reports: Flacco's cap hit this year is 7 mil 


Looks like we will have to restructure after 3years when his hit becomes 22-25 mil.

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Posted: 3/3/2013 9:43 AM

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I imagine the plan is for this to eventually become a 7-8 year deal, they'll need to lower that cap number in a few years - by converting salary to bonus
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Posted: 3/3/2013 11:29 AM

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DiscoJamal wrote: I imagine the plan is for this to eventually become a 7-8 year deal, they'll need to lower that cap number in a few years - by converting salary to bonus
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Posted: 3/3/2013 11:34 AM

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Wow that is about as low as the hit could possibly be in the first year, with that number the Ravens have plenty of money to retain anyone they want, and maybe dabble in FA.  Wouldn't be surprised if Leach stayed now, that is another 3 million to work with vs the 10m I thought it would be.

Structure is probably something like...

2013 - 7m
2014 - 16m
2015 - 22m
2016 - 24m
2017 - 25m
2018 - 27m

And they won't be restructuring the last few years, that really wouldn't accomplish anything. They will probably extend him, if they do anything at all. Looks like they structured it right along with how the cap is projected to jump, tight next 2 years and then nice little bumps starting in 2015.

The cap has gone up roughly 20% in the last 6 years, so even if we are ultra conservative and ignore the huge new TV deal that projects to be around $140 million in 2018. Just taking a wild guess it will probably be north of $150 million.

They could easily just let him play it out until the last year and then extend him with a year left as well. $27 million is a lot different on a $150m cap vs $123m.
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Posted: 3/3/2013 11:35 AM

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I like knowing that our Super Bowl MVP QB is young and we can build around him.  Keep giving him weapons so he can show off that cannon hanging from his right shoulder.

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Posted: 3/3/2013 11:42 AM

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jagrsucks wrote: Looks like we will have to restructure after 3years when his hit becomes 22-25 mil.
also notice that when Joe's cap number gets big, Suggs and Ngata are likely nearing the ends of their deals.
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Posted: 3/3/2013 11:50 AM

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Usually these deals go 2 ways: Joe plays great and we tear the deal up after 3 years or he under performs and we ask him to restructure
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Posted: 3/3/2013 11:55 AM

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If accurate, that is a great deal for the team...I do hope they keep Ellerbe, Boldin,and McKinnie...Boldin's play in the playoffs was unbelievable,and I doubt we could have won without him making crucial catches...as noted by others, Ellerbe was our best defender in the playoffs...and of course the reshuffled OL was critical as well...as far as our top 3 draft choices...I hope they go for "best player available" at the following positions...LT,ILB,and NT....
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Posted: 3/3/2013 12:05 PM

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jagrsucks wrote: Usually these deals go 2 ways: Joe plays great and we tear the deal up after 3 years or he under performs and we ask him to restructure
A "restructure" is not a "pay cut" which is what you are implying.

And you should edit the title because it was Jason LaCanfora on Twitter who stated the $7million, Hensley just linked it in his blog post.

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Posted: 3/3/2013 2:49 PM

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I hear the Flacco cap numbers in years 1 and 2 of the proposed contract are $6.8m and $14.8m. Huge help for Ravens if it gets signed Monday.


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Posted: 3/3/2013 3:18 PM

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If Flaccos first year is 6.8 million we can fill out our roster nicely and wont have to release anyone. Jones and Leach are FA's in 2014, there should be no problem keeping both for 2013.

Hopefully the FO drafts a fullback to groom behind Leach, and we have a WR who can replace Jacoby in 2014. I also would like to see the FO draft a punter to compete with Koch this season. Koch is set to make 2.5 mil in 2014 and 15.
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Posted: 3/3/2013 3:58 PM

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The salary cap will go up over the next few years - especially if the networks give the NFL another sweetheart deal.  I can see Flacco restructuring his deal after three years, so the Ravens will remain competitive during his career. 

His current deal will allow us to resign or retain folks like Ellersbie, Kruger, and Boldin.
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Posted: 3/3/2013 4:25 PM

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Downeyoshenhun wrote: The salary cap will go up over the next few years - especially if the networks give the NFL another sweetheart deal.  I can see Flacco restructuring his deal after three years, so the Ravens will remain competitive during his career. 

His current deal will allow us to resign or retain folks like Ellersbie, Kruger, and Boldin.

We need starters at DT, FS and ILB.  We are covered everywhere else.  I would love to see Kruger retained, but it could cost us down the road if we need to retain a starter at another position.

The F.O. could re-sign all our starters except for Kruger and C. Williams, Webb is returning and Upshaw can start at OLB.  We could then sign a LT in FA not named McKinnie and keep Reed on a short term/club option contract for a year or two until we secure the FS position. 

That would give us

QB Flacco
RB Rice
FB Leach
LT ???
LG Osemele
OC Gino
RG Yanda
RT Oher
WR1 Smith
WR2 Boldin
TE Pitta

DT Ngata
NT Kemo
DE Jones
ROLB Suggs
RILB Ellerbe
LILB ???
LOLB Upshaw
RCB Webb/Gram
SS Pollard
FS Reed 
LCB Smith/Brown

The only question marks being left tackle and ILB, we have some ILBs on the roster who could possible start, and the draft is stacked at ILB.  The FO should be able to sign a left tackle in FA.  An additional DT should be added some time in FA, and via the draft.


Edit: This still leaves us weak on the defensive line, but hopefully the draft, and to a degree free agency can help stop the bleeding, specifically the rush defense.
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Posted: 3/3/2013 6:45 PM

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akacrow wrote:
Downeyoshenhun wrote: The salary cap will go up over the next few years - especially if the networks give the NFL another sweetheart deal.  I can see Flacco restructuring his deal after three years, so the Ravens will remain competitive during his career. 

His current deal will allow us to resign or retain folks like Ellersbie, Kruger, and Boldin.

We need starters at DT, FS and ILB.  We are covered everywhere else.  I would love to see Kruger retained, but it could cost us down the road if we need to retain a starter at another position.

The F.O. could re-sign all our starters except for Kruger and C. Williams, Webb is returning and Upshaw can start at OLB.  We could then sign a LT in FA not named McKinnie and keep Reed on a short term/club option contract for a year or two until we secure the FS position. 

That would give us

QB Flacco
RB Rice
FB Leach
LT ???
LG Osemele
OC Gino
RG Yanda
RT Oher
WR1 Smith
WR2 Boldin
TE Pitta

DT Ngata
NT Kemo
DE Jones
ROLB Suggs
RILB Ellerbe
LILB ???
LOLB Upshaw
RCB Webb/Gram
SS Pollard
FS Reed 
LCB Smith/Brown

The only question marks being left tackle and ILB, we have some ILBs on the roster who could possible start, and the draft is stacked at ILB.  The FO should be able to sign a left tackle in FA.  An additional DT should be added some time in FA, and via the draft.


Edit: This still leaves us weak on the defensive line, but hopefully the draft, and to a degree free agency can help stop the bleeding, specifically the rush defense.
The myth of the "bleeding rush defense" was one generated by the media who still in 2012 don't know what stats actually represent the quality of the unit. Yards per game stats are worthless. useless. Should be used for nothing, but somehow still are what we judge on.

The Ravens allowed 4.0 YPC last year, 8th overall. That is the stat that matters. That was with a banged up Ngata and injuries all over the place in the front 7. Every single player except Jones/Cody were hurt/playing hurt for long stretches.

Yet we still somehow managed another top 10 ranking. Just imagine what we could have done with a healthy Suggs, Ngata, Ray, Ellerbe, McClain, McPhee for even the majority of the year.

We will definitely take a DL/DT though probably pretty high, draft is extremely deep in that area. Cody will probably be a goner next year need to have someone waiting in the wings, and Ozzie likes to take those guys a year early in these situations.
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Posted: 3/3/2013 7:15 PM

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52decleetzu wrote:
akacrow wrote:
Downeyoshenhun wrote: The salary cap will go up over the next few years - especially if the networks give the NFL another sweetheart deal.  I can see Flacco restructuring his deal after three years, so the Ravens will remain competitive during his career. 

His current deal will allow us to resign or retain folks like Ellersbie, Kruger, and Boldin.

We need starters at DT, FS and ILB.  We are covered everywhere else.  I would love to see Kruger retained, but it could cost us down the road if we need to retain a starter at another position.

The F.O. could re-sign all our starters except for Kruger and C. Williams, Webb is returning and Upshaw can start at OLB.  We could then sign a LT in FA not named McKinnie and keep Reed on a short term/club option contract for a year or two until we secure the FS position. 

That would give us

QB Flacco
RB Rice
FB Leach
LT ???
LG Osemele
OC Gino
RG Yanda
RT Oher
WR1 Smith
WR2 Boldin
TE Pitta

DT Ngata
NT Kemo
DE Jones
ROLB Suggs
RILB Ellerbe
LILB ???
LOLB Upshaw
RCB Webb/Gram
SS Pollard
FS Reed 
LCB Smith/Brown

The only question marks being left tackle and ILB, we have some ILBs on the roster who could possible start, and the draft is stacked at ILB.  The FO should be able to sign a left tackle in FA.  An additional DT should be added some time in FA, and via the draft.


Edit: This still leaves us weak on the defensive line, but hopefully the draft, and to a degree free agency can help stop the bleeding, specifically the rush defense.
The myth of the "bleeding rush defense" was one generated by the media who still in 2012 don't know what stats actually represent the quality of the unit. Yards per game stats are worthless. useless. Should be used for nothing, but somehow still are what we judge on.

The Ravens allowed 4.0 YPC last year, 8th overall. That is the stat that matters. That was with a banged up Ngata and injuries all over the place in the front 7. Every single player except Jones/Cody were hurt/playing hurt for long stretches.

Yet we still somehow managed another top 10 ranking. Just imagine what we could have done with a healthy Suggs, Ngata, Ray, Ellerbe, McClain, McPhee for even the majority of the year.

We will definitely take a DL/DT though probably pretty high, draft is extremely deep in that area. Cody will probably be a goner next year need to have someone waiting in the wings, and Ozzie likes to take those guys a year early in these situations.
Stats?   We were 20th in rushing TDs allowed.   Teams ran on us at will last season, we couldn't get offenses off the field, and were in second and third and short way too often.  Teams ran on us more often than 28 other NFL teams in the league.
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Posted: 3/3/2013 7:30 PM

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Wouldnt mind having this guy take Kemo's place. We should also be getting McBean back in the fold as well. Couple that with the a draft prospect within the 1st two rounds and our dline could be a strength going into next season.
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Posted: 3/3/2013 8:04 PM

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akacrow wrote:
52decleetzu wrote:
akacrow wrote:
Downeyoshenhun wrote: The salary cap will go up over the next few years - especially if the networks give the NFL another sweetheart deal.  I can see Flacco restructuring his deal after three years, so the Ravens will remain competitive during his career. 

His current deal will allow us to resign or retain folks like Ellersbie, Kruger, and Boldin.

We need starters at DT, FS and ILB.  We are covered everywhere else.  I would love to see Kruger retained, but it could cost us down the road if we need to retain a starter at another position.

The F.O. could re-sign all our starters except for Kruger and C. Williams, Webb is returning and Upshaw can start at OLB.  We could then sign a LT in FA not named McKinnie and keep Reed on a short term/club option contract for a year or two until we secure the FS position. 

That would give us

QB Flacco
RB Rice
FB Leach
LT ???
LG Osemele
OC Gino
RG Yanda
RT Oher
WR1 Smith
WR2 Boldin
TE Pitta

DT Ngata
NT Kemo
DE Jones
ROLB Suggs
RILB Ellerbe
LILB ???
LOLB Upshaw
RCB Webb/Gram
SS Pollard
FS Reed 
LCB Smith/Brown

The only question marks being left tackle and ILB, we have some ILBs on the roster who could possible start, and the draft is stacked at ILB.  The FO should be able to sign a left tackle in FA.  An additional DT should be added some time in FA, and via the draft.


Edit: This still leaves us weak on the defensive line, but hopefully the draft, and to a degree free agency can help stop the bleeding, specifically the rush defense.
The myth of the "bleeding rush defense" was one generated by the media who still in 2012 don't know what stats actually represent the quality of the unit. Yards per game stats are worthless. useless. Should be used for nothing, but somehow still are what we judge on.

The Ravens allowed 4.0 YPC last year, 8th overall. That is the stat that matters. That was with a banged up Ngata and injuries all over the place in the front 7. Every single player except Jones/Cody were hurt/playing hurt for long stretches.

Yet we still somehow managed another top 10 ranking. Just imagine what we could have done with a healthy Suggs, Ngata, Ray, Ellerbe, McClain, McPhee for even the majority of the year.

We will definitely take a DL/DT though probably pretty high, draft is extremely deep in that area. Cody will probably be a goner next year need to have someone waiting in the wings, and Ozzie likes to take those guys a year early in these situations.
Stats?   We were 20th in rushing TDs allowed.   Teams ran on us at will last season, we couldn't get offenses off the field, and were in second and third and short way too often.  Teams ran on us more often than 28 other NFL teams in the league.
If there was an even worse stat to look to judge a run defense it is "rushing TD's". disbelief

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Posted: 3/3/2013 8:20 PM

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The overall defense buckled down in the red zone.
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Posted: 3/3/2013 9:32 PM

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theravenkidd wrote: www.nfl.com/player/rickyjeanfrancois/79583/profile

Wouldnt mind having this guy take Kemo's place. We should also be getting McBean back in the fold as well. Couple that with the a draft prospect within the 1st two rounds and our dline could be a strength going into next season.
Pretty sure he's a 3-4 end. At 295 lbs, I can't see him playing NT.

Also, McBean signed a one year deal. He's about to enter free agency.
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Posted: 3/4/2013 1:19 AM

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McBean wil not be in demand. If Ngata had someone besides Cody next to him he would not get so much wear and tear
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Posted: 3/4/2013 6:20 AM

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Joe will sign the contract at 2pm today.  Current speculation is $52 million guaranteed and this years cap number is as low as $6.8 million.  I guess we'll find out the particulars in the next 24 hours.

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Posted: 3/4/2013 6:44 AM

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If the cap # for this year is that low, they could easily bring back some of the free agents on at least 1 or 2 year contracts, such as Ed Reed.
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Posted: 3/4/2013 7:43 AM

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rantnrav wrote: If the cap # for this year is that low, they could easily bring back some of the free agents on at least 1 or 2 year contracts, such as Ed Reed.

I doubt Reed is signing a 1 or 2 year contract.  If he's coming back it will be something similar to Ray Lewis' last contract.
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Posted: 3/4/2013 8:19 AM

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rantnrav wrote: If the cap # for this year is that low, they could easily bring back some of the free agents on at least 1 or 2 year contracts, such as Ed Reed.

I doubt Reed is signing a 1 or 2 year contract.  If he's coming back it will be something similar to Ray Lewis' last contract.
There is no way that the Ravens are going to give Ed Reed the type of contract they gave Ray Lewis back in early 2009.  That deal was a 7 year deal with $10 million up front and more signing bonuses the next two years.

Lewis was the face of the franchise, was a year younger than Reed and was healthy and still playing at a high level. 

Reed, while a cornerstone, is not the face of the franchise.  He has well documented serious injuries and is winding down his hall of fame career. 

If you think the Ravens, or any team for that matter, is about to give Reed a contract that pays him a double digit signing bonus and multiple years you are crazy.  Even young and healthy safeties in the prime of their careers are not getting those types of contracts.

No, if Reed wants to continue to play football, he is going to play for a 1 or 2 year contract for maybe 5 or 6 million signing bonus, at most.
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Posted: 3/4/2013 8:42 AM

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Safeties are the lowest paid players outside of kickers/punters/special teams. No way Reed is getting any kind of big contract.
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Posted: 3/4/2013 9:21 AM

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rantnrav wrote:
PSURaven wrote:
rantnrav wrote: If the cap # for this year is that low, they could easily bring back some of the free agents on at least 1 or 2 year contracts, such as Ed Reed.

I doubt Reed is signing a 1 or 2 year contract.  If he's coming back it will be something similar to Ray Lewis' last contract.
There is no way that the Ravens are going to give Ed Reed the type of contract they gave Ray Lewis back in early 2009.  That deal was a 7 year deal with $10 million up front and more signing bonuses the next two years.

Lewis was the face of the franchise, was a year younger than Reed and was healthy and still playing at a high level. 

Reed, while a cornerstone, is not the face of the franchise.  He has well documented serious injuries and is winding down his hall of fame career. 

If you think the Ravens, or any team for that matter, is about to give Reed a contract that pays him a double digit signing bonus and multiple years you are crazy.  Even young and healthy safeties in the prime of their careers are not getting those types of contracts.

No, if Reed wants to continue to play football, he is going to play for a 1 or 2 year contract for maybe 5 or 6 million signing bonus, at most.
This! But keep in mind those "1-2 year contracts" are usually 3-4 year the way NFL contracts are structured. He will get something that might resemble a 3-4 year deal, but it won't be in reality.

Reed just said he had 2-3 years left max on NFL AM.

That was straight from his mouth.
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Posted: 3/4/2013 9:30 AM

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52decleetzu wrote:
rantnrav wrote:
PSURaven wrote:
rantnrav wrote: If the cap # for this year is that low, they could easily bring back some of the free agents on at least 1 or 2 year contracts, such as Ed Reed.

I doubt Reed is signing a 1 or 2 year contract.  If he's coming back it will be something similar to Ray Lewis' last contract.
There is no way that the Ravens are going to give Ed Reed the type of contract they gave Ray Lewis back in early 2009.  That deal was a 7 year deal with $10 million up front and more signing bonuses the next two years.

Lewis was the face of the franchise, was a year younger than Reed and was healthy and still playing at a high level. 

Reed, while a cornerstone, is not the face of the franchise.  He has well documented serious injuries and is winding down his hall of fame career. 

If you think the Ravens, or any team for that matter, is about to give Reed a contract that pays him a double digit signing bonus and multiple years you are crazy.  Even young and healthy safeties in the prime of their careers are not getting those types of contracts.

No, if Reed wants to continue to play football, he is going to play for a 1 or 2 year contract for maybe 5 or 6 million signing bonus, at most.
This! But keep in mind those "1-2 year contracts" are usually 3-4 year the way NFL contracts are structured. He will get something that might resemble a 3-4 year deal, but it won't be in reality.

Reed just said he had 2-3 years left max on NFL AM.

That was straight from his mouth.

So offer him a 3-4 year contract with a healthy enough signing bonus up front, low overall salary, and keep the cap hit reasonable for a 34 year old safety with hip/kneck issues that can't tackle anymore.

Reed will hit free agency and see the same thing that Ray saw 4 years ago - no one will value him the same way the Ravens do.

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Posted: 3/4/2013 9:40 AM

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We may have been stout in the Red Zone, but way too many mediocre RB's looked like Pro-Bowlers against us for my liking.
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Posted: 3/4/2013 9:50 AM

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If Ellerbee gets to be a money issue I'm betting they turn their attention to Ed reed

With Flacco only having a 7 million cap number retaining him shouldn't be too big of a problem any more

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Posted: 3/4/2013 10:14 AM

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I think Reed signs with us at 2 yrs max. I can't see anything beyond that. You have to figure in two years he weill be 36 yrs old. He will and should ride off in the sunset as a lifetime Raven.
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Posted: 3/4/2013 10:32 AM

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They might do a couple years to lower the cap hit a bit
Didn't Birk sign a 3 year deal last year even though we all knew he was done after this year?
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Posted: 3/4/2013 12:25 PM

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DiscoJamal wrote: They might do a couple years to lower the cap hit a bit
Didn't Birk sign a 3 year deal last year even though we all knew he was done after this year?
Birk did sign a three year deal. What I heard after he announce his retirement, is the Ravens save $2.5 mil on the cap; and the dead money was $1 mil.
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Posted: 3/4/2013 1:11 PM

You don't pay Hall of Fame money to a non pro bowler 


Joes contract will handcuff the team's ability to place quality players around him.

He had decent season and a great playoff run but he is getting hall of fame caliber pay without the consistency.  He is one notch below pro bowl caliber and is getting the money of a future hall of famer. 

This salary would be fine if he could play at a high level like he did in the playoff's for a whole season but he doesn't

Now we have to see how many key players are left to walk because there is not enough money to go around.

They should have franchised him and made him prove it one more time.
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Posted: 3/4/2013 1:20 PM

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mprasad1x wrote: Joes contract will handcuff the team's ability to place quality players around him.

He had decent season and a great playoff run but he is getting hall of fame caliber pay without the consistency.  He is one notch below pro bowl caliber and is getting the money of a future hall of famer. 

This salary would be fine if he could play at a high level like he did in the playoff's for a whole season but he doesn't

Now we have to see how many key players are left to walk because there is not enough money to go around.

They should have franchised him and made him prove it one more time.
The cap hit this year is reported to be a little less than 7 million dollars, no one is walking.  If they did what you're suggesting and franchised him, then half of the team would be cut.
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Posted: 3/4/2013 1:22 PM

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mprasad1x wrote: Joes contract will handcuff the team's ability to place quality players around him.

He had decent season and a great playoff run but he is getting hall of fame caliber pay without the consistency.  He is one notch below pro bowl caliber and is getting the money of a future hall of famer. 

This salary would be fine if he could play at a high level like he did in the playoff's for a whole season but he doesn't

Now we have to see how many key players are left to walk because there is not enough money to go around.

They should have franchised him and made him prove it one more time.

The cap hit for his contract for this year is about what Ray Lewis and Matt Birk free up by retiring.  His contract doesn't get absurd in a cap hit until after the cap is expected to rise substantially.

The remaining $11 million in cap space for the team will be spent retaining key guys (Ellerbe, Pitta, extending Jones and Boldin, and if there's room and desire on both sides, Reed).  The contract is a much better deal than the franchise tag, which would have prevented any of those guys from being able to do anything with this team.

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Posted: 3/4/2013 1:23 PM

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yep, the cap hit from the franchise tag would have been close to DOUBLE, what the contract hit is.

 Don't argue with an idiot;  people watching may not be able to tell the difference. 

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Posted: 3/4/2013 1:23 PM

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mprasad1x wrote: Joes contract will handcuff the team's ability to place quality players around him.

He had decent season and a great playoff run but he is getting hall of fame caliber pay without the consistency.  He is one notch below pro bowl caliber and is getting the money of a future hall of famer. 

This salary would be fine if he could play at a high level like he did in the playoff's for a whole season but he doesn't

Now we have to see how many key players are left to walk because there is not enough money to go around.

They should have franchised him and made him prove it one more time.
I'm not sure where to start with this post. Flacco's cap hit this year is lower then what his cap hit was for this past season.

Top Ravens cap hits
1 Terrell Suggs at Defensive Tackle $13,020,000
2 Haloti Ngata at Defensive Tackle $11,500,000
3 Anquan Boldin at Wide Receiver $7,531,250
4 Marshal Yanda at Guard $7,450,000
5 Joe Flacco at Quarterback $6,800,000
6 Ray Rice at Running Back $5,750,000
7 Lardarius Webb at Cornerback $5,385,000
8 Michael Oher at Tackle $4,955,000
9 Jacoby Jones at Wide Receiver $4,900,000
10 Vonta Leach at Fullback $4,333,333

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Posted: 3/4/2013 1:30 PM

Re: You don't pay Hall of Fame money to a non pro bowler 



Paintballguy wrote:
mprasad1x wrote: Joes contract will handcuff the team's ability to place quality players around him.

He had decent season and a great playoff run but he is getting hall of fame caliber pay without the consistency.  He is one notch below pro bowl caliber and is getting the money of a future hall of famer. 

This salary would be fine if he could play at a high level like he did in the playoff's for a whole season but he doesn't

Now we have to see how many key players are left to walk because there is not enough money to go around.

They should have franchised him and made him prove it one more time.
I'm not sure where to start with this post. Flacco's cap hit this year is lower then what his cap hit was for this past season.

Top Ravens cap hits
1Terrell Suggs at Defensive Tackle$13,020,000
2Haloti Ngata at Defensive Tackle$11,500,000
3Anquan Boldin at Wide Receiver$7,531,250
4Marshal Yanda at Guard$7,450,000
5Joe Flacco at Quarterback$6,800,000
6Ray Rice at Running Back$5,750,000
7Lardarius Webb at Cornerback$5,385,000
8Michael Oher at Tackle$4,955,000
9Jacoby Jones at Wide Receiver$4,900,000
10Vonta Leach at Fullback$4,333,333

The deal is back end heavy.  You sign people based on his cap hit this year with all the FA's the ravens have but then in future years his cap number starts going way up and you will have to start cutting salary to make up for it.  

You are paying the piper a couple of years in the future.  These back end heavy contracts have hurt teams like the Steelers.  That is one of the reasons why they are in the cap hell they are in now.  They are constantly restructuring deals every year and some players may not restructure.
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Posted: 3/4/2013 1:31 PM

Re: You don't pay Hall of Fame money to a non pro bowler 



mprasad1x wrote: Joes contract will handcuff the team's ability to place quality players around him.

He had decent season and a great playoff run but he is getting hall of fame caliber pay without the consistency.  He is one notch below pro bowl caliber and is getting the money of a future hall of famer. 

This salary would be fine if he could play at a high level like he did in the playoff's for a whole season but he doesn't

Now we have to see how many key players are left to walk because there is not enough money to go around.

They should have franchised him and made him prove it one more time.

Don't quit your day job.



Cool Story Bro.
You should tell it at practice.

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Posted: 3/4/2013 1:33 PM

Re: You don't pay Hall of Fame money to a non pro bowler 


The deal is set up to be restructured/extended in 3-4 years, those cap hit most likely will not happen, plus the cap should be higher then also

 Don't argue with an idiot;  people watching may not be able to tell the difference. 

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