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Posted: 1/28/2013 7:42 PM
Flacco Contract
NFL network reporting Flacco's agent thinks he is playing better than Peyton Manning so look for Flacco and agent to ask for 9 million a year. That's the asking price. Ozzie says Flacco's contract will be evaluated over his entire career. Let's just win the Super Bowl first!
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Posted: 1/28/2013 7:47 PM
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Posted: 1/28/2013 7:48 PM
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machone wrote: NFL network reporting Flacco's agent thinks he is playing better than Peyton Manning so look for Flacco and agent to ask for 9 million a year. That's the asking price. I have to imagine that's a typo...because I'd be more than happy to have Flacco back at $9 million per. Flacco was asking for $17 Million per year last season, and Baltimore balked at that amount, because he hadn’t earned it with his inconsistent play. He’s played well enough in the 2nd half to merit discussion at that $17 Million number…especially if he sees it through and wins the Super Bowl.
Even if this talk from the media about $20 Million per is coming from the Flacco camp, and not just speculation, that is their starting point for negotiation, not the name inked on a contract. I would imaging when all is said and done, that the finished deal will be somewhere between $15 and $18 million per.
Last edited 1/28/2013 7:50 PM by naca72
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Posted: 1/28/2013 7:48 PM
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john clayton and chris mortenson are saying he is looking for brees money which is $20M per year
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Posted: 1/28/2013 7:48 PM
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15-18 mill annual will be what it takes
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Posted: 1/28/2013 7:54 PM
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Also reporting that Ed Reed wants to play one more year even if they do win the Super Bowl....got those records he wants to break. Don't know how much that one will cost.
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Posted: 1/28/2013 7:54 PM
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I don't understand what's wrong with, say, $12 million annually and a better team around you as opposed to $20 million annually. Especially when you are already rolling around in tens of millions of dollars.
Last edited 1/28/2013 7:56 PM by ForbiddenDonut
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Posted: 1/28/2013 8:14 PM
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I don't understand what's wrong with, say, $12 million annually and a better team around you as opposed to $20 million annually. Especially when you are already rolling around in tens of millions of dollars.
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Why settle for less than your market value? That's anti-capitalistic and the NFL is basic micro-economics
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Posted: 1/28/2013 8:20 PM
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When you read things like Kruger's article on money and the rest, they are looking for paychecks, and that's OK.. That's what you are supposed to do. Obviously we'd like for him not to fleece the team, and I'm sure he understands the sentiment of restructuring, but it appears both sides have an understanding per interviews with Ozzie about his worth evaluated as a total package and I'm pretty confident they'll have a deal to keep him here for the long term eventually. Now Reed on the other hand, I have a feeling other teams are willing to throw more money at him than we will be able to do ForbiddenDonut wrote: I don't understand what's wrong with, say, $12 million annually and a better team around you as opposed to $20 million annually. Especially when you are already rolling around in tens of millions of dollars.
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Posted: 1/28/2013 8:31 PM
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As a Ravens fan I hope we get him at a bargain. As a Flacco fan I think he should get the most possible because F it, people are still talking him down including Ravens fans. It's so bad that i even asked a girl wearing a Flacco jersey if he was good and she said not really, it was a gift.
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Posted: 1/28/2013 9:08 PM
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ForbiddenDonut wrote: I don't understand what's wrong with, say, $12 million annually and a better team around you as opposed to $20 million annually. Especially when you are already rolling around in tens of millions of dollars. People aren't really accustomed to think that way. Would you take a pay cut at work to help your company financially? That might seem a specious comparison, since Flacco's talking eight figures and you're not. But wealth is relative; humans are pretty much psychologically biased against viewing money in any other way. To you, $12 million seems like a fortune; to Flacco, $12 million is less than $20 million. From Flacco's (and really any player's) perspective, financial outlook and team outlook exist in isolated, exclusive spheres. It's not really an ingrained cognitive process, to think that his personal wealth might be related to the success of the team. His money is his money; his team is his team. They don't interact. Of course, they actually do, and if more players were willing to accept that earning in a month what most Americans will never earn in a lifetime is "good enough," then we'd probably see better player retention from season to season. But who knows - that might end up hurting team parity and the league as a competitive product. So maybe, as a cooperative venture, the NFL benefits overall from its players scrambling for the biggest bucks.
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Posted: 1/28/2013 9:14 PM
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ForbiddenDonut wrote: I don't understand what's wrong with, say, $12 million annually and a better team around you as opposed to $20 million annually. Especially when you are already rolling around in tens of millions of dollars. NFL players have a very limited window of opportunity to make money. Why would you take less then what a team is willing to pay you? And I don't understand why people are getting spun up over this. Just because someone asks 20 million, doesn't mean they will get it. It's called bargaining. You start high and work your way down. |
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Posted: 1/28/2013 9:35 PM
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Personally, as a QB in a salary cap league I would take a bit less and let the team structure it however makes sense, so they have enough money to pay a team around me. In my mind there's a few types of people that would want to get paid the absolute most, the best player, greedy people and narcissists. Meaning, if I'm Joe and my choices are: go for $20 mil. and run for my life because of bad O-linemen, have average receivers, and/or a mediocre defense. OR take $15 mil. and have a better team to get me back to the dance... I'm taking the $15.
After all, the goal is to win Super Bowls and cement your legacy among the best. Not take all the money and play for 5th place every year.
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Posted: 1/28/2013 9:47 PM
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I think the 20 is doable, but Ozzie would have to be finding ALOT of UDFA gems to compensate for the lack of talent that we cant resign. That is why its so important to give guys like Bynes & other UDFA's a chance, because you cant address every glaring hole on your team via FA ( especially if Joe is getting paid top coin, no way will we be able to sign guys off the street) & thru the draft.
We will have to hit on guys like McAdoo, Bynes, and alot of the UDFA's we bring in, in order to cope with the exit of alot of talent.
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Posted: 1/28/2013 9:53 PM
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TonyZXT wrote: Personally, as a QB in a salary cap league I would take a bit less and let the team structure it however makes sense, so they have enough money to pay a team around me. In my mind there's a few types of people that would want to get paid the absolute most, the best player, greedy people and narcissists. Meaning, if I'm Joe and my choices are: go for $20 mil. and run for my life because of bad O-linemen, have average receivers, and/or a mediocre defense. OR take $15 mil. and have a better team to get me back to the dance... I'm taking the $15.
After all, the goal is to win Super Bowls and cement your legacy among the best. Not take all the money and play for 5th place every year. I agree. I just don't think he'll get 20. I've been saying all along before the playoffs he'd get 18 a year. It's really hard to tell because they put a lot of misinformation out in the media. We'll just have to wait and see what actually transpires. |
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Posted: 1/28/2013 10:01 PM
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TonyZXT wrote: Personally, as a QB in a salary cap league I would take a bit less and let the team structure it however makes sense, so they have enough money to pay a team around me. In my mind there's a few types of people that would want to get paid the absolute most, the best player, greedy people and narcissists. Meaning, if I'm Joe and my choices are: go for $20 mil. and run for my life because of bad O-linemen, have average receivers, and/or a mediocre defense. OR take $15 mil. and have a better team to get me back to the dance... I'm taking the $15.
After all, the goal is to win Super Bowls and cement your legacy among the best. Not take all the money and play for 5th place every year. This... ^^^^^^^^^
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Posted: 1/28/2013 10:42 PM
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his agent did say oz has to call him he is done calling the ravens
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Posted: 1/28/2013 11:29 PM
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micbelt wrote: john clayton and chris mortenson are saying he is looking for brees money which is $20M per year Actually, they never said that Joe was asking for or looking for "Brees money" or "$20M/year", they simply said that they felt that he could ask for or get that much. They were only speculating on what they felt he could get/ask for, although, my guess is that that number was somehow mentioned to them by someone in Flacco's camp. |
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Posted: 1/28/2013 11:31 PM
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naca72 wrote:
Even if this talk from the media about $20 Million per is coming from the Flacco camp, and not just speculation, that is their starting point for negotiation, not the name inked on a contract. I would imaging when all is said and done, that the finished deal will be somewhere between $15 and $18 million per.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 12:56 AM
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Flacco shut the critics up this year... he proved 100% beyond a reasonable doubt that he's the QB for this team going forward.
The Ravens have a tendency of holding on to players until the end of their contract to make sure they're the right guy. Often times it will cost them extra dough (see McAlister, Suggs, and soon to be Flacco), but I think they take the safer approach rather than sink a ton of money in a bust. The good thing is that we haven't really seen the Ravens sink a ton of money in a loser, so that's a positive of this theory, as long as the cap management continues well.
I tend to agree with what was said about Flacco being in the $15-18 million range. If he wins the Superbowl, he could be more in the $18-19 million range.
I'm not worried, they'll figure something out long-term, very little chance he'd ever hit the open market.
Last edited 1/29/2013 12:56 AM by AirHead3745
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