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Posted: 1/16/2013 4:33 PM

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Sorry for the OT, but this might be one of the craziest football stories I've ever read.  I wonder what it does to his draft stock?

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Posted: 1/16/2013 4:59 PM

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What the ........this story is crazy.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 5:03 PM

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He's off Ozzie's board.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 5:05 PM

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When I read the headline, I said to myself "no way".  After reading it though, it's pretty damning.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 5:33 PM

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That's insane. Of course Notre Dame is saying that Te'o and his family were the victims of a hoax. The article states otherwise.

Maybe he's gay and was using the story as a cover up.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 5:34 PM

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TTroj52 wrote:
Maybe he's gay and was using the story as a cover up.
Rough to speculate such a thing, but it seems to me to be quite possible.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 6:36 PM

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It's almost inconceivable that the story went as far as it did...CBS NEWS?!

If I was the News Director for them, I'd fire every unit producer and fact checker that worked for me.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 8:02 PM

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He'd fit right in with the steelers or the patriots.

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Posted: 1/16/2013 8:17 PM

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I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt and say this is a hoax. It's actually surprisingly common. Often, it's a con to get your private info or to give them money or to do something illegal for them. But a lot of times, it's just someone who likes pretending to be someone else online. That may sound kinda sad and pathetic - and it probably is - but it stems from pretty normal conditions. It provides validation, and a little escapism. If, say, you're a stressed-out husband in a bad marriage and unfulfilling job, it might be attractive to pretend you're a young teenage heartthrob, who people are interested in and care about.

Although ... what doesn't make sense are those news stories that say Teo met this girl. Certainly, those could've been "heard from this guy who knows a guy" kind of things that some lazy columnist decided to write up. But while it's common for people to pretend to be someone else online, it's also pretty common for people to be yourself online, but make up details about your life. Tragedy is one people go to a lot - elicits sympathy.

So it could easily be that Teo pretended to have a girlfriend who died. Or, alternatively, he pretended to have a girlfriend to his friends, but then it got out of hand (since he is a national figure), and so he made her "go away" - "Oh, she died. Yeah."


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Posted: 1/16/2013 8:25 PM

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SKim173 wrote: I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt and say this is a hoax. It's actually surprisingly common. Often, it's a con to get your private info or to give them money or to do something illegal for them. But a lot of times, it's just someone who likes pretending to be someone else online. That may sound kinda sad and pathetic - and it probably is - but it stems from pretty normal conditions. It provides validation, and a little escapism. If, say, you're a stressed-out husband in a bad marriage and unfulfilling job, it might be attractive to pretend you're a young teenage heartthrob, who people are interested in and care about.

Although ... what doesn't make sense are those news stories that say Teo met this girl. Certainly, those could've been "heard from this guy who knows a guy" kind of things that some lazy columnist decided to write up. But while it's common for people to pretend to be someone else online, it's also pretty common for people to be yourself online, but make up details about your life. Tragedy is one people go to a lot - elicits sympathy.

So it could easily be that Teo pretended to have a girlfriend who died. Or, alternatively, he pretended to have a girlfriend to his friends, but then it got out of hand (since he is a national figure), and so he made her "go away" - "Oh, she died. Yeah."
Too much baggage. This kid may go undrafted.

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Posted: 1/16/2013 8:29 PM

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Bengals and Steelers are prime targets.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 9:29 PM

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SKim173 wrote:

I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt and say this is a hoax. 

How?! 

It's his friend that set up all the twitter accounts, and so forth...and Te'o himself is on TV talking about staying up late on the phone with her in the hospital, and skipping the funeral to play because she asked him to...WAY, WAY too many lies to be a coincidence. 

I don't know how it got as far as it did...I still can't fathom how all these sports and news stations swallowed this garbage whole...but if I was a GM at the combine with this kid, I would put him through the f*****g wringer in the interview process to find out what he was thinking.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 7:45 AM

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I actually do NOT see how this issue is an issue...already at least a 2 day news article...I mean, cmon, is there nothing else more important to talk about than this guys mystery woman?

The long and the short of it, for me.....Who Cares??????

         

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Posted: 1/17/2013 8:06 AM

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BuckinRavenstown wrote: I actually do NOT see how this issue is an issue...already at least a 2 day news article...I mean, cmon, is there nothing else more important to talk about than this guys mystery woman?

The long and the short of it, for me.....Who Cares??????
When you are about to get paid millions by a NFL team, it becomes a huge deal.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 8:13 AM

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Don't believe him for a second that he's 100% the victim and had no idea. You're doing stories and interviews on ESPN after the fact of your girlfriend's "death" and have never even gotten one bit of information about a funeral arrangement? No word from "her" family? 

Maybe he was duped, but he went along with this charade long after the fact. It also doesn't help that Te'o and Notre Dame didn't come out with this until a month after it was apparently brought to their attention....plenty of time for everyone to get their stories straight.


As for the media and ESPN......how dumb do they all look right now. Tripping over each other to exploit this "tragedy" for ratings and then ending up with egg on their face because nobody ever checked into the validity of this story. Now they're going to trip over each other to cover this "scandal" and tear the kid down. It's more sickening than anything Te'o did.


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Posted: 1/17/2013 8:13 AM

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odd to say the least. the fact it had to break with a news conference in the middle of the Terps game last night still leaves me scratching my head. i really dont care to be honest and does it really need this much air time?   BTW the President of Notre Dame Athletics looked a lot like Brian Billick using the same big words in his Q&A.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:00 AM

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I heard about this on the radio on the way to work - I honestly think it's a stupid story, who cares?!
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:36 AM

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DiscoJamal wrote: I heard about this on the radio on the way to work - I honestly think it's a stupid story, who cares?!
The people who donated to "her" memorial fund for starters.

It's just a crazy story in general that happens to involve a highly touted prospect.  I'd be shocked if it didn't bump him down in the draft.  He's basically shown himself to either be a fool and liar of epic proportions, or he's in on the scam.  Either way doesn't reflect well on him.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 10:01 AM

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RevTimBlessesDaRavens wrote:
DiscoJamal wrote: I heard about this on the radio on the way to work - I honestly think it's a stupid story, who cares?!
The people who donated to "her" memorial fund for starters.

It's just a crazy story in general that happens to involve a highly touted prospect.  I'd be shocked if it didn't bump him down in the draft.  He's basically shown himself to either be a fool and liar of epic proportions, or he's in on the scam.  Either way doesn't reflect well on him.
I am with DJ on this one. Dont care about the story.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 12:38 PM

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A lot of people would have cared if he had rode that wave of sympathy and his "overcoming" loss story to a Heisman trophy. There is no way that he would have gone as far he did in the balloting without this story (and our idiotic I can't check facts media) behind him. Although, I am glad that Alabama murdered them in the NC game now.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 1:21 PM

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I don't care about him saying he had a fake girlfriend...I care about him (and his father) going on ESPN, CBS, etc.

I had a fake girlfriend once in like 7th grade. A couple friends saw a picture of my hot cousin, and I told them she.was my girlfriend (from another school).

What I didn't do was go on CBS News and talk about spending time with her, or have my Dad give an interview to ESPN about how much she meant to the family.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 1:29 PM

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naca72 wrote: I don't care about him saying he had a fake girlfriend...I care about him (and his father) going on ESPN, CBS, etc.

I had a fake girlfriend once in like 7th grade. A couple friends saw a picture of my hot cousin, and I told them she.was my girlfriend (from another school).

What I didn't do was go on CBS News and talk about spending time with her, or have my Dad give an interview to ESPN about how much she meant to the family.
Bingo. He exploited this whole thing for personal gain. That's what I have issue with.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 1:44 PM

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Have any of you guys seen the show Catfish? This kind of thing happens all of the time. It may seem pathetic at best, and unbelievable at worst, but it's definitely very possible that he's telling the truth. Some people are just romantics that want to believe things will work out for them even when the person they want things to work out with are miles and miles away. They probably know it's not going to end well, but they refuse to believe it because they want what they want so bad. There are people out there who will take advantage of people like this, and dupe these poor souls for their personal entertainment. I've had friends who've had this scam pulled on them. They stayed up late every night talking to some girl who ended up not being who she said she was. I believe him when he says he was the victim of a hoax, and I feel for the guy. I actually hope this causes him to slide down the draft to the Ravens, because this doesn't change the fact that he's an excellent football player at a position of need.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 1:52 PM

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tnsmith90 wrote: Have any of you guys seen the show Catfish? This kind of thing happens all of the time. It may seem pathetic at best, and unbelievable at worst, but it's definitely very possible that he's telling the truth. 
I think his story as it stands now is big time stretch.  He's definitely lied about this when it comes to claiming he met her, claims of how he found she died, etc.  The details suggest its more likely he was in on it in some way, not some innocent victim.  He supposedly found out about this 'hoax' in December, yet still did all the media hoopla before the BCS title game about her and whatnot.  It's just weird.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 2:37 PM

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There are certainly some questions around this but it is pretty hard to listen to all of these people who have not seen nor are aware of the film "Catfish" as has been mentioned.

This happens ALL THE TIME. It's sick and the people behind it are usually disturbed individuals.

He was obviously embarrassed that he was duped. There may be a quote here or there that you question but this looks far more like a hoax perpetrated ON him and not BY him. It is just too easy for a news crew to sniff out to make this up yourself. And, the fact that they did not sniff it out does not make him guilty, it just makes them horrible reporters.

These lazy poor reporters are now feeling burned, and are now convinced or convincing themselves it was his doing all along. When in reality it is the moronic reporters that are wrong yet again. This appears to be just an evil hoax that he got tricked by and was very embarrassed to then have this truth come out once he figured it all out.

Again, go watch the show or the film Catfish. This happens every day and it is not some "self hoax" perpetrated by the victim. That whole scenario is just ridiculous. The only reason this one made news is because he is a ND star... otherwise this is just another case of Catfishing. All the older people that are so shocked by this are kind of showing their age. They simply can not fathom this happening. They grew up in a pre-cyber world.

I am more interested in exposing the hoaxers. Where are they? Where are the reporters tracking them down and looking for them? More lazy reporting?

If somebody did this..they should be publicly shamed.

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Posted: 1/17/2013 3:03 PM

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Just because the 'catfish' scenario definitely can happen does not directly mean that's what happened in this case.  Like I said before, he's either a moron and a liar, or a scammer himself.

Here's a LINK of him talking about her two days after he supposedly found out about the 'hoax'
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Posted: 1/17/2013 3:04 PM

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Hottbirdz wrote: There are certainly some questions around this but it is pretty hard to listen to all of these people who have not seen nor are aware of the film "Catfish" as has been mentioned.

This happens ALL THE TIME. It's sick and the people behind it are usually disturbed individuals.

He was obviously embarrassed that he was duped. There may be a quote here or there that you question but this looks far more like a hoax perpetrated ON him and not BY him. It is just too easy for a news crew to sniff out to make this up yourself. And, the fact that they did not sniff it out does not make him guilty, it just makes them horrible reporters.

These lazy poor reporters are now feeling burned, and are now convinced or convincing themselves it was his doing all along. When in reality it is the moronic reporters that are wrong yet again. This appears to be just an evil hoax that he got tricked by and was very embarrassed to then have this truth come out once he figured it all out.

Again, go watch the show or the film Catfish. This happens every day and it is not some "self hoax" perpetrated by the victim. That whole scenario is just ridiculous. The only reason this one made news is because he is a ND star... otherwise this is just another case of Catfishing. All the older people that are so shocked by this are kind of showing their age. They simply can not fathom this happening. They grew up in a pre-cyber world.

I am more interested in exposing the hoaxers. Where are they? Where are the reporters tracking them down and looking for them? More lazy reporting?

If somebody did this..they should be publicly shamed.
The hoaxer is known, it was Marques Tuiasosopa's little brother Ronaniah.  He is an aquaintance of Te'o's. 


So if we "assume" that Te'o was a victim of catfishing, why did he say he met her?  Why did he make mention of looking into her eyes.  Why did his father mention that she visited Hawaii, or that they met in Stanford.  Why didn't he go to the hospital when she was sick, or attend the funeral when she "died". 

Too many questions to ask to "assume" he wasn't involved.

I DON'T buy that it was started from the get go to get publicity for the heisman, or anything like that.  I CAN buy that it started as a way for Te'o to pretend to have a GF so his teammates would leave him alone for not "scoring with chicks".  My conention would be that is how it started, and it got out of hand from there.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 6:41 PM

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why did he say he met her? 

Well he did meet her in a sense. They "met" online. However.. maybe he was just embarrassed and said they met/hooked up to keep his teammates off his back for only having an "internet girlfriend".

You state he would do this whole incident to get his teammates off his back, but you ignore the fact that maybe he would tell a small lie to in fact do the same.



Why did he make mention of looking into her eyes. 

See above.



Why did his father mention that she visited Hawaii, or that they met in Stanford. 



I don't know anything about his dad or what he said. But it would not be the first time a parent was wrong or misled about a teen's or early 20's girlfriend. I mean seriously. So instead you jump to his father being behind some massive conspiracy. 

Its funny watching every body jump the the most extreme position just because of a strange fact or statement here or there. Maybe he told his dad things just like he told his teammates. He was embarrassed.



Why didn't he go to the hospital when she was sick, or attend the funeral when she "died". 


Because she was not sick and there was no funeral to send him to by the hoaxers. Are you serious? And if he were making this all up, don't you think he would say "hey, Im going to my dead girlfriends funeral." It's not that hard to say or pretend to do if you are trying to trick somebody. rolleyes

Usually fake people perpetrating a fraud are not going to tell you where the hospital or funeral are since there is not one. This happens all the time in Catfishing. You are told excuses after excuses. 

Again you and all the lazy journalists jump to the conclusion that he perpetrated this entire fraud just to get some extra attention yet you fail to recognize that somebody could have just continued to just tell him some lies to keep their fraud going?! 



Too many questions to ask to "assume" he wasn't involved. 

Maybe for you. Look, he could be guilty as sin. I just happen to think he was really gullible and then really ashamed and embarrassed. You would be surprised to see the lengths somebody will go to try and avoid being nationally humiliated and embarrassed like he is now. 

I guess you believe he did this all to himself in some sort of bizarre self destruction to get some extra attention from fans?!

I happen to believe this lines up directly over and over and over and over again with most Catfishing cases. The fact that the reporters failed to realize this and do not know much about it in general does not change that. Your tale is the one that sounds farfetched to me, not the other way around.

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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:16 PM

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Hottbirdz wrote: why did he say he met her? 

Well he did meet her in a sense. They "met" online. However.. maybe he was just embarrassed and said they met/hooked up to keep his teammates off his back for only having an "internet girlfriend".

You state he would do this whole incident to get his teammates off his back, but you ignore the fact that maybe he would tell a small lie to in fact do the same.



Why did he make mention of looking into her eyes. 

See above.



Why did his father mention that she visited Hawaii, or that they met in Stanford. 



I don't know anything about his dad or what he said. But it would not be the first time a parent was wrong or misled about a teen's or early 20's girlfriend. I mean seriously. So instead you jump to his father being behind some massive conspiracy. 

Its funny watching every body jump the the most extreme position just because of a strange fact or statement here or there. Maybe he told his dad things just like he told his teammates. He was embarrassed.



Why didn't he go to the hospital when she was sick, or attend the funeral when she "died". 


Because she was not sick and there was no funeral to send him to by the hoaxers. Are you serious? And if he were making this all up, don't you think he would say "hey, Im going to my dead girlfriends funeral." It's not that hard to say or pretend to do if you are trying to trick somebody. rolleyes

Usually fake people perpetrating a fraud are not going to tell you where the hospital or funeral are since there is not one. This happens all the time in Catfishing. You are told excuses after excuses. 

Again you and all the lazy journalists jump to the conclusion that he perpetrated this entire fraud just to get some extra attention yet you fail to recognize that somebody could have just continued to just tell him some lies to keep their fraud going?! 



Too many questions to ask to "assume" he wasn't involved. 

Maybe for you. Look, he could be guilty as sin. I just happen to think he was really gullible and then really ashamed and embarrassed. You would be surprised to see the lengths somebody will go to try and avoid being nationally humiliated and embarrassed like he is now. 

I guess you believe he did this all to himself in some sort of bizarre self destruction to get some extra attention from fans?!

I happen to believe this lines up directly over and over and over and over again with most Catfishing cases. The fact that the reporters failed to realize this and do not know much about it in general does not change that. Your tale is the one that sounds farfetched to me, not the other way around.
I agree with this. The other poster asked why he would lie about it two days after supposedly finding out about the hoax, and my guess is that he was embarrassed. He probably just wanted to cover it all up, and hope it just went away. Like you said, the story just seems way more farfetched if he was in on the whole thing. It's far more likely he was duped. Pretty much everyone that I have talked to about this have all assumed he was catfished. I mean what would he have to gain anyway? Look at the way this all turned out. It hasn't ended well for him. It would be retarded for him to make something like this up, because the odds of it coming out are obviously very high as he is one of the most famous college football stars in America.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 11:26 PM

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One detail that I'm not sure if was mentioned in this thread, is that Tuiasosopo actually contacted Nev Shulman (the Catfish documentary guy) at some point last year.  It will be interesting to see if details come out from that exchange.  Might shed some light on things.

This whole situation is bizarre  reading through the whole Deadspin article and hearing all the different takes on it from the media today, it's impossible to know what really happened at this point.  I have a feeling Manti is going to have to clear this up, if he's willing and honest.  Beyond that all we can do is speculate.

Anyway, as if this whole thing wasn't complicated enough.... the plot thickens!

Arizona Cardinals fullback Reagan Mauia told ESPN that Kekua IS REAL, that he's met her in person, and is close with her family.  He claims the two met in Samoa when he and Troy Pullahairball were down there doing charity work in 2011.  Here's the URL to the article:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/ar izona-cardinals-fullback-manti-te-os-fake-girlfrie nd-051106606--ncaaf.html

It's possible that Kekua is a real chick that Tuiasasopo based the fake profile off of.  It's also possible that the reason that no one could find record of her or her death is that Kekua is a nickname and not her given name.  Of course it's possible that Reagan Mauia is wrong somehow, and this is just a chick with a similar name... who knows.

More info will keep coming out about this in the coming weeks, but in the mean time it just keeps getting weirder and weirder.
 
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Posted: 1/17/2013 11:49 PM

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I didn't now that Japan followed college football at all bet their even making fun of this nut case.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWmpGhIZJWw

He is about as stable as a Lohan.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 8:31 AM

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This photo just leaked of Manti's naked girlfriend in the shower... smh!

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Posted: 1/18/2013 8:44 AM

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TTroj52 wrote: That's insane. Of course Notre Dame is saying that Te'o and his family were the victims of a hoax. The article states otherwise.

Maybe he's gay and was using the story as a cover up.


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Posted: 1/18/2013 10:36 AM

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Hottbirdz wrote: why did he say he met her? 

Well he did meet her in a sense. They "met" online. However.. maybe he was just embarrassed and said they met/hooked up to keep his teammates off his back for only having an "internet girlfriend".

You state he would do this whole incident to get his teammates off his back, but you ignore the fact that maybe he would tell a small lie to in fact do the same.



Why did he make mention of looking into her eyes. 

See above.



Why did his father mention that she visited Hawaii, or that they met in Stanford. 



I don't know anything about his dad or what he said. But it would not be the first time a parent was wrong or misled about a teen's or early 20's girlfriend. I mean seriously. So instead you jump to his father being behind some massive conspiracy. 

Its funny watching every body jump the the most extreme position just because of a strange fact or statement here or there. Maybe he told his dad things just like he told his teammates. He was embarrassed.



Why didn't he go to the hospital when she was sick, or attend the funeral when she "died". 


Because she was not sick and there was no funeral to send him to by the hoaxers. Are you serious? And if he were making this all up, don't you think he would say "hey, Im going to my dead girlfriends funeral." It's not that hard to say or pretend to do if you are trying to trick somebody. rolleyes

Usually fake people perpetrating a fraud are not going to tell you where the hospital or funeral are since there is not one. This happens all the time in Catfishing. You are told excuses after excuses. 

Again you and all the lazy journalists jump to the conclusion that he perpetrated this entire fraud just to get some extra attention yet you fail to recognize that somebody could have just continued to just tell him some lies to keep their fraud going?! 



Too many questions to ask to "assume" he wasn't involved. 

Maybe for you. Look, he could be guilty as sin. I just happen to think he was really gullible and then really ashamed and embarrassed. You would be surprised to see the lengths somebody will go to try and avoid being nationally humiliated and embarrassed like he is now. 

I guess you believe he did this all to himself in some sort of bizarre self destruction to get some extra attention from fans?!

I happen to believe this lines up directly over and over and over and over again with most Catfishing cases. The fact that the reporters failed to realize this and do not know much about it in general does not change that. Your tale is the one that sounds farfetched to me, not the other way around.
OK, so supposing we buy your story...  that he was catfished. 

Then, Te'o only lied to his parents, friends, media about meeting her in stanford, her visiting hawaii, about sending flowers to the funeral...   He supposedly talked to her for hours on the phone...  so the catfisher had a female friend that would spend all that time working him over for no gain???  we are talking abotu 2-3  years of lies, to several dozen people.  So the cleanest he can be, is an incredibly gullable LIAR. 

Is it possible this started out as catfishing, sure.  But to think all three years existed that way makes you as gullible as Te'o.  His teammates didn't believe she existed, some even saying he made the whole thing up for attention. 

My personal take, after hearing what I've heard and read what I've read.  It started out as a little "white lie" that he had this Long distance GF to keep the guys off his back for not hookign up with random chicks.  To me, from there it branches one of two ways.  Either he's really gay, or really wanted to stay a virgin until marriage.  He kept the lie up so long, that it started to become obvious to too many people so he killed her off.  I think by the time of her doubt there is almost no chance he did NOT know.  Sorry, I jsut can't buy that he is THAT DUMB to buy excuses about what hospital she's in and the like.  By the time she "died" he knew.  I can't see it any other way until I see a MOUNTAIN of evidence to the contrary, and at that point he is literally so dumb I wouldn't draft him at all, that would possibly look worse on him then an entire elaborate fraud. 


The fact he hasn't spoek to the media says volumes.  If he had nothing to hide he'd be talking.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 11:56 AM

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He's a closeted Gay Guy.  This really isn't rocket science.

If he wanted to be a virgin, just say you're waiting until marriage.  In fact, if he wanted to mask being gay, thats the way to go.

I think the key here is that he was likely in a gay RELATIONSHIP actively with Tiuasopopo's (sp?)  Brother.  And spent time with HIM on the phone, doing all that, and taking trips to see him, blah blah blah.  And needed a fake girlfriend to hide that.

I just wish pro football could become less homophobic and accept that some good players might be gay.

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Posted: 1/18/2013 12:00 PM

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ClericBlackDave wrote:

He's a closeted Gay Guy.  This really isn't rocket science.

If he wanted to be a virgin, just say you're waiting until marriage.  In fact, if he wanted to mask being gay, thats the way to go.

I think the key here is that he was likely in a gay RELATIONSHIP actively with Tiuasopopo's (sp?)  Brother.  And spent time with HIM on the phone, doing all that, and taking trips to see him, blah blah blah.  And needed a fake girlfriend to hide that.

I just wish pro football could become less homophobic and accept that some good players might be gay.

That's my opinion at this point. A successful popular athlete doesn't have to look online for a girl. And it would look weird if his teammates never saw him hooking up or talking to chicks around campus. So he said he had this "girlfriend" who lived in another state.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 12:08 PM

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ClericBlackDave wrote:

He's a closeted Gay Guy.  This really isn't rocket science.

If he wanted to be a virgin, just say you're waiting until marriage.  In fact, if he wanted to mask being gay, thats the way to go.

I think the key here is that he was likely in a gay RELATIONSHIP actively with Tiuasopopo's (sp?)  Brother.  And spent time with HIM on the phone, doing all that, and taking trips to see him, blah blah blah.  And needed a fake girlfriend to hide that.

I just wish pro football could become less homophobic and accept that some good players might be gay.

yup, Touiasosopa could indeed have been the man for Te'o.  Not a stretch in the least.  If Te'o were to own up to it(which he won't) I think the whole shebang would be inconsequential to teams.  If he(as expected) continues to play the victim, he will drop.  At that point he is either a liar or incredibly dumb.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 12:13 PM

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Predicition here. He will not be a 1st Round Draft Pick
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Posted: 1/18/2013 12:17 PM

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21XXXV wrote: Predicition here. He will not be a 1st Round Draft Pick
I agree with that. How far he falls will be the question.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 1:26 PM

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The other possibility (and my gut feeling) is that Tuiasosopo is gay and led relationships with several guys through fake profiles. Catfish just aired an episode where a gay guy did exactly that. Closeted gay guys are apparently doing this a lot, because the guys they are interested in aren't gay or they don't know how to approach them to find out. A lot of these guys are ashamed to have a gay relationship in real life, or out in public, so they create their own safe world online.

Anyway, if it is the case that Tuiasosopo was scamming him, it's apparent that Te'o and ND figured it out before the NCG and wanted to keep the drama quiet til the season was over. Can't say I fault them for doing so. Would you want to distract your whole team in the midst of a championship run with a media circus?

My draft prediction..... "with the 55th pick of the 2013 NFL Draft, the Cincinnati Bengals select - Manti Te'o, Linebacker, Notre Dame." lol
 
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