While getting rid of Cam right now would make a lot of people happy - including Flacco - it would strike me as odd because we just scored 28 on the road.

Defense looks gross, but can you blame Pees?  Lewis, Suggs, Webb, Smith, Elerbe, McBean, all out for significant stretches of time.   Ngata, Reed just ailing.

Specials teams has been damn near lights out with Jacoby returning, Kock punting, Tucker kicking . . . coverage has been decent and on the KR in OT I feel like there was an uncalled block in the back.

If anyone, Cam.   But I think its knee jerk to do anything.  The fact is, our defense is just depleted, and guys are on the field who shouldn't be.

Thedailydose wrote: PFT tweeted, its only a guess, but Cam probably out in Baltimore, Jim Caldwell likely to replace him.

JLew295 wrote: I don't think it's knee jerk.

Its the culmination of years of failure. Cam was on the hot seat all year. This is just the last straw.

I mean look.  I know Cam has his flaws.  I know plenty of you have it out for him.  

But Lee Evans dropped the SuperBowl clincher last year, not Cam.

The Ravens defense gave up a game tying TD and 2pt to Kirk Cousins, not Cam.

The Ravens defense gave up a game tying TD and game winning field goal to Charlie Batch at home.

We likely will be better long run with Cam gone.  But doing it now is knee jerk.  I dont think its a move that propels you to the Superbowl.   Its a move that wreaks of desperation.

Its a move that puts a 31 to 28 loss on a Unit and coordinator that just scored 28 on the road.

ClericBlackDave wrote:

While getting rid of Cam right now would make a lot of people happy - including Flacco - it would strike me as odd because we just scored 28 on the road.

Defense looks gross, but can you blame Pees?  Lewis, Suggs, Webb, Smith, Elerbe, McBean, all out for significant stretches of time.   Ngata, Reed just ailing.

Specials teams has been damn near lights out with Jacoby returning, Kock punting, Tucker kicking . . . coverage has been decent and on the KR in OT I feel like there was an uncalled block in the back.

If anyone, Cam.   But I think its knee jerk to do anything.  The fact is, our defense is just depleted, and guys are on the field who shouldn't be.

ClericBlackDave wrote:

While getting rid of Cam right now would make a lot of people happy - including Flacco - it would strike me as odd because we just scored 28 on the road.

Defense looks gross, but can you blame Pees?  Lewis, Suggs, Webb, Smith, Elerbe, McBean, all out for significant stretches of time.   Ngata, Reed just ailing.

Specials teams has been damn near lights out with Jacoby returning, Kock punting, Tucker kicking . . . coverage has been decent and on the KR in OT I feel like there was an uncalled block in the back.

If anyone, Cam.   But I think its knee jerk to do anything.  The fact is, our defense is just depleted, and guys are on the field who shouldn't be.

nickh0801 wrote:

ClericBlackDave wrote:

While getting rid of Cam right now would make a lot of people happy - including Flacco - it would strike me as odd because we just scored 28 on the road.

Defense looks gross, but can you blame Pees?  Lewis, Suggs, Webb, Smith, Elerbe, McBean, all out for significant stretches of time.   Ngata, Reed just ailing.

Specials teams has been damn near lights out with Jacoby returning, Kock punting, Tucker kicking . . . coverage has been decent and on the KR in OT I feel like there was an uncalled block in the back.

If anyone, Cam.   But I think its knee jerk to do anything.  The fact is, our defense is just depleted, and guys are on the field who shouldn't be.

21 of the 28 points came in the first half when Joe was in the no huddle.  Cam started calling plays in the 2nd half...

Again, whatever you personal crusades are, I just happen to remember 28 points being scored, and a defense giving up 8 points with 5 minutes left to Kirk Cousins.

Maybe Caldwell is the guy.  Maybe letting Joe run the Sugar Huddle again full time is the solution.   I dont know.

I just know this feels a move to make a move.   The problem is a defense that is now a sieve. And there isn't a fix, because its a personnel problem more than it is coaching.

RavenzNTerps wrote:

nickh0801 wrote:

ClericBlackDave wrote:

While getting rid of Cam right now would make a lot of people happy - including Flacco - it would strike me as odd because we just scored 28 on the road.

Defense looks gross, but can you blame Pees?  Lewis, Suggs, Webb, Smith, Elerbe, McBean, all out for significant stretches of time.   Ngata, Reed just ailing.

Specials teams has been damn near lights out with Jacoby returning, Kock punting, Tucker kicking . . . coverage has been decent and on the KR in OT I feel like there was an uncalled block in the back.

If anyone, Cam.   But I think its knee jerk to do anything.  The fact is, our defense is just depleted, and guys are on the field who shouldn't be.

21 of the 28 points came in the first half when Joe was in the no huddle.  Cam started calling plays in the 2nd half...

lol we didn't run much no huddle in the first half. We haven't run much no huddle since Joe has proven incabale of running the no huddle consistently. Since Houston.

ClericBlackDave wrote:

Again, whatever you personal crusades are, I just happen to remember 28 points being scored, and a defense giving up 8 points with 5 minutes left to Kirk Cousins.

Maybe Caldwell is the guy.  Maybe letting Joe run the Sugar Huddle again full time is the solution.   I dont know.

I just know this feels a move to make a move.   The problem is a defense that is now a sieve. And there isn't a fix, because its a personnel problem more than it is coaching.

rantnrav wrote:

RavenzNTerps wrote:

nickh0801 wrote:

ClericBlackDave wrote:

While getting rid of Cam right now would make a lot of people happy - including Flacco - it would strike me as odd because we just scored 28 on the road.

Defense looks gross, but can you blame Pees?  Lewis, Suggs, Webb, Smith, Elerbe, McBean, all out for significant stretches of time.   Ngata, Reed just ailing.

Specials teams has been damn near lights out with Jacoby returning, Kock punting, Tucker kicking . . . coverage has been decent and on the KR in OT I feel like there was an uncalled block in the back.

If anyone, Cam.   But I think its knee jerk to do anything.  The fact is, our defense is just depleted, and guys are on the field who shouldn't be.

21 of the 28 points came in the first half when Joe was in the no huddle.  Cam started calling plays in the 2nd half...

lol we didn't run much no huddle in the first half. We haven't run much no huddle since Joe has proven incabale of running the no huddle consistently. Since Houston.

Oh good God, you are going to turn this into a Flacco bashing thread, aren't you.  Never miss the oppurtunity.

sczepp wrote: In a surprising move by Buck Showalter has been made the new coach.

RavenzNTerps wrote:

rantnrav wrote:

RavenzNTerps wrote:

nickh0801 wrote:

ClericBlackDave wrote:

While getting rid of Cam right now would make a lot of people happy - including Flacco - it would strike me as odd because we just scored 28 on the road.

Defense looks gross, but can you blame Pees?  Lewis, Suggs, Webb, Smith, Elerbe, McBean, all out for significant stretches of time.   Ngata, Reed just ailing.

Specials teams has been damn near lights out with Jacoby returning, Kock punting, Tucker kicking . . . coverage has been decent and on the KR in OT I feel like there was an uncalled block in the back.

If anyone, Cam.   But I think its knee jerk to do anything.  The fact is, our defense is just depleted, and guys are on the field who shouldn't be.

21 of the 28 points came in the first half when Joe was in the no huddle.  Cam started calling plays in the 2nd half...

lol we didn't run much no huddle in the first half. We haven't run much no huddle since Joe has proven incabale of running the no huddle consistently. Since Houston.

Oh good God, you are going to turn this into a Flacco bashing thread, aren't you.  Never miss the oppurtunity.

I wasn't the one who brought it up. Just pointing out the obvious, ever since we tried to run offense at "Patriots speed" (Dierdorff's words after our magnificant opening drive in Houston) Flacco has failed when attempted. We're NOT a no huddle offense. We SHOULDN'T run no huddle. I'm not sure why people think we should after watching how horrendous we've been 90% of the time when we run it.

RchmondRvnsFan wrote: Flacco is responsible for missing that, not Cam. I have a very hard time believing that Flacco is "not allowed" to change the protection scheme when one side of the line is overloaded. And even if Cam told him not to, he's in his fifth year, he needs to do it anyways.

I think giving time to check out is the key.

Obviously, Flacco is allowed to change the play.  But the lineman's assignments are coming from Birk, and with the way he is playing physically, his mind is supposed to be the one thing he's good for.

Getting TEs and RBs to pickup pressure, and maybe asking the line to slide protection, yeah thats Flacco.

But if Cam is purposely getting plays in late instead of early, what can you do?


You can fire him I guess (if they fire him).   But honestly, I still hold that the 8 point lead was given up by the defense.  Turnovers or not, the lead was there to be held.

ClericBlackDave wrote:

RchmondRvnsFan wrote: Flacco is responsible for missing that, not Cam. I have a very hard time believing that Flacco is "not allowed" to change the protection scheme when one side of the line is overloaded. And even if Cam told him not to, he's in his fifth year, he needs to do it anyways.

I think giving time to check out is the key.

Obviously, Flacco is allowed to change the play.  But the lineman's assignments are coming from Birk, and with the way he is playing physically, his mind is supposed to be the one thing he's good for.

Getting TEs and RBs to pickup pressure, and maybe asking the line to slide protection, yeah thats Flacco.

But if Cam is purposely getting plays in late instead of early, what can you do?


You can fire him I guess (if they fire him).   But honestly, I still hold that the 8 point lead was given up by the defense.  Turnovers or not, the lead was there to be held.

Thedailydose wrote: I'm starting to wonder that this may be all just a rumor... no substance? ESPN, NFLN, and most other outlets not reporting anything?

Thedailydose wrote: I just tuned into WNST and the Bull Dog was on there... wtf? How does this guy still find his way on radio?

UGH! 

Cam Cameron tells ABC2 he's been let go by the Ravens

It's official. Cam Cameron is gone.

PurpleNemesis wrote: I heard that John Harbaugh was screaming at Cameron on the sidelines during the Redskins game. I didn't see it myself. Did anyone notice this?