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Posted: 12/10/2012 9:45 AM

Cam Cameron gone 


Per WNST. Just a rumor for now though!

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Posted: 12/10/2012 9:49 AM

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Posted: 12/10/2012 9:49 AM

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Wow. I sure hope so.

The road to the Super Bowl starts now.

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Posted: 12/10/2012 9:53 AM

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Not cool Dan...my heart fluttered with joy only to be deflated as rumor

         

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Posted: 12/10/2012 9:55 AM

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While getting rid of Cam right now would make a lot of people happy - including Flacco - it would strike me as odd because we just scored 28 on the road.

Defense looks gross, but can you blame Pees?  Lewis, Suggs, Webb, Smith, Elerbe, McBean, all out for significant stretches of time.   Ngata, Reed just ailing.

Specials teams has been damn near lights out with Jacoby returning, Kock punting, Tucker kicking . . . coverage has been decent and on the KR in OT I feel like there was an uncalled block in the back.

If anyone, Cam.   But I think its knee jerk to do anything.  The fact is, our defense is just depleted, and guys are on the field who shouldn't be.

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Posted: 12/10/2012 9:56 AM

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I don't think it's knee jerk.

Its the culmination of years of failure. Cam was on the hot seat all year. This is just the last straw.

"If ravens fans are confident you can win a playoff game, then I don't see where that confidence is coming from. Be realistic"

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Posted: 12/10/2012 9:57 AM

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Don't tease me.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 9:57 AM

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Stevie B has seen enough. Harbs take notice. The Italian stallion don't play! devil
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Posted: 12/10/2012 9:57 AM

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Please make it a reality.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 9:58 AM

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PFT tweeted, its only a guess, but Cam probably out in Baltimore, Jim Caldwell likely to replace him.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 9:59 AM

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While getting rid of Cam right now would make a lot of people happy - including Flacco - it would strike me as odd because we just scored 28 on the road.

Defense looks gross, but can you blame Pees?  Lewis, Suggs, Webb, Smith, Elerbe, McBean, all out for significant stretches of time.   Ngata, Reed just ailing.

Specials teams has been damn near lights out with Jacoby returning, Kock punting, Tucker kicking . . . coverage has been decent and on the KR in OT I feel like there was an uncalled block in the back.

If anyone, Cam.   But I think its knee jerk to do anything.  The fact is, our defense is just depleted, and guys are on the field who shouldn't be.



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I wouldn't even call that on the road that was M&T south.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 10:00 AM

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Thedailydose wrote: PFT tweeted, its only a guess, but Cam probably out in Baltimore, Jim Caldwell likely to replace him.
Thank you jesus
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Posted: 12/10/2012 10:00 AM

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JLew295 wrote: I don't think it's knee jerk.

Its the culmination of years of failure. Cam was on the hot seat all year. This is just the last straw.

I mean look.  I know Cam has his flaws.  I know plenty of you have it out for him.  

But Lee Evans dropped the SuperBowl clincher last year, not Cam.

The Ravens defense gave up a game tying TD and 2pt to Kirk Cousins, not Cam.

The Ravens defense gave up a game tying TD and game winning field goal to Charlie Batch at home.

We likely will be better long run with Cam gone.  But doing it now is knee jerk.  I dont think its a move that propels you to the Superbowl.   Its a move that wreaks of desperation.

Its a move that puts a 31 to 28 loss on a Unit and coordinator that just scored 28 on the road.

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Posted: 12/10/2012 10:00 AM

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Cam's going to be gone in the offseason - might as well give Caldwell a look now.
...stay classy 'skins fans
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Posted: 12/10/2012 10:01 AM

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ClericBlackDave wrote:

While getting rid of Cam right now would make a lot of people happy - including Flacco - it would strike me as odd because we just scored 28 on the road.

Defense looks gross, but can you blame Pees?  Lewis, Suggs, Webb, Smith, Elerbe, McBean, all out for significant stretches of time.   Ngata, Reed just ailing.

Specials teams has been damn near lights out with Jacoby returning, Kock punting, Tucker kicking . . . coverage has been decent and on the KR in OT I feel like there was an uncalled block in the back.

If anyone, Cam.   But I think its knee jerk to do anything.  The fact is, our defense is just depleted, and guys are on the field who shouldn't be.

It may be knee jerk to do it at this point in the season, but I wouldn't give him a pass from yesterday's game.  The Skins have one of the worst pass defenses in the NFL.  We did fine in the first half, but that second half was total garbage.  They could not complete a single pass downfield.  Flacco, with every pass attempt, looked, looked, looked and then either dumped off, got sack/stripped or threw a pick.  Could nobody get open against that defense?  Come on.  Something was wrong.  Either Flacco couldn't find the open receivers, or they weren't getting open.  If they weren't getting open, then why not?  When the pattern of going straight down the field and stopping gets covered, maybe try something a bit more creative.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 10:01 AM

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I heard that John Harbaugh was screaming at Cameron on the sidelines during the Redskins game. I didn't see it myself. Did anyone notice this?
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Posted: 12/10/2012 10:01 AM

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ClericBlackDave wrote:

While getting rid of Cam right now would make a lot of people happy - including Flacco - it would strike me as odd because we just scored 28 on the road.

Defense looks gross, but can you blame Pees?  Lewis, Suggs, Webb, Smith, Elerbe, McBean, all out for significant stretches of time.   Ngata, Reed just ailing.

Specials teams has been damn near lights out with Jacoby returning, Kock punting, Tucker kicking . . . coverage has been decent and on the KR in OT I feel like there was an uncalled block in the back.

If anyone, Cam.   But I think its knee jerk to do anything.  The fact is, our defense is just depleted, and guys are on the field who shouldn't be.

21 of the 28 points came in the first half when Joe was in the no huddle.  Cam started calling plays in the 2nd half...
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Posted: 12/10/2012 10:02 AM

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nickh0801 wrote:
ClericBlackDave wrote:

While getting rid of Cam right now would make a lot of people happy - including Flacco - it would strike me as odd because we just scored 28 on the road.

Defense looks gross, but can you blame Pees?  Lewis, Suggs, Webb, Smith, Elerbe, McBean, all out for significant stretches of time.   Ngata, Reed just ailing.

Specials teams has been damn near lights out with Jacoby returning, Kock punting, Tucker kicking . . . coverage has been decent and on the KR in OT I feel like there was an uncalled block in the back.

If anyone, Cam.   But I think its knee jerk to do anything.  The fact is, our defense is just depleted, and guys are on the field who shouldn't be.

21 of the 28 points came in the first half when Joe was in the no huddle.  Cam started calling plays in the 2nd half...

lol we didn't run much no huddle in the first half. We haven't run much no huddle since Joe has proven incabale of running the no huddle consistently. Since Houston.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 10:06 AM

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Again, whatever you personal crusades are, I just happen to remember 28 points being scored, and a defense giving up 8 points with 5 minutes left to Kirk Cousins.

Maybe Caldwell is the guy.  Maybe letting Joe run the Sugar Huddle again full time is the solution.   I dont know.

I just know this feels a move to make a move.   The problem is a defense that is now a sieve. And there isn't a fix, because its a personnel problem more than it is coaching.

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Posted: 12/10/2012 10:06 AM

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RavenzNTerps wrote:
nickh0801 wrote:
ClericBlackDave wrote:

While getting rid of Cam right now would make a lot of people happy - including Flacco - it would strike me as odd because we just scored 28 on the road.

Defense looks gross, but can you blame Pees?  Lewis, Suggs, Webb, Smith, Elerbe, McBean, all out for significant stretches of time.   Ngata, Reed just ailing.

Specials teams has been damn near lights out with Jacoby returning, Kock punting, Tucker kicking . . . coverage has been decent and on the KR in OT I feel like there was an uncalled block in the back.

If anyone, Cam.   But I think its knee jerk to do anything.  The fact is, our defense is just depleted, and guys are on the field who shouldn't be.

21 of the 28 points came in the first half when Joe was in the no huddle.  Cam started calling plays in the 2nd half...

lol we didn't run much no huddle in the first half. We haven't run much no huddle since Joe has proven incabale of running the no huddle consistently. Since Houston.
Oh good God, you are going to turn this into a Flacco bashing thread, aren't you.  Never miss the oppurtunity.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 10:12 AM

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ClericBlackDave wrote:

Again, whatever you personal crusades are, I just happen to remember 28 points being scored, and a defense giving up 8 points with 5 minutes left to Kirk Cousins.

Maybe Caldwell is the guy.  Maybe letting Joe run the Sugar Huddle again full time is the solution.   I dont know.

I just know this feels a move to make a move.   The problem is a defense that is now a sieve. And there isn't a fix, because its a personnel problem more than it is coaching.

I don't know what personal crusades you are on, but Joe gave up a 10 point swing on turnovers. 3 points for sure he gave up when he tossed the ball errantly to L. Fletcher. That last drive is pointless if Joe don't turn the ball over. Bank it!
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Posted: 12/10/2012 10:15 AM

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rantnrav wrote:
RavenzNTerps wrote:
nickh0801 wrote:
ClericBlackDave wrote:

While getting rid of Cam right now would make a lot of people happy - including Flacco - it would strike me as odd because we just scored 28 on the road.

Defense looks gross, but can you blame Pees?  Lewis, Suggs, Webb, Smith, Elerbe, McBean, all out for significant stretches of time.   Ngata, Reed just ailing.

Specials teams has been damn near lights out with Jacoby returning, Kock punting, Tucker kicking . . . coverage has been decent and on the KR in OT I feel like there was an uncalled block in the back.

If anyone, Cam.   But I think its knee jerk to do anything.  The fact is, our defense is just depleted, and guys are on the field who shouldn't be.

21 of the 28 points came in the first half when Joe was in the no huddle.  Cam started calling plays in the 2nd half...

lol we didn't run much no huddle in the first half. We haven't run much no huddle since Joe has proven incabale of running the no huddle consistently. Since Houston.
Oh good God, you are going to turn this into a Flacco bashing thread, aren't you.  Never miss the oppurtunity.
I wasn't the one who brought it up. Just pointing out the obvious, ever since we tried to run offense at "Patriots speed" (Dierdorff's words after our magnificant opening drive in Houston) Flacco has failed when attempted. We're NOT a no huddle offense. We SHOULDN'T run no huddle. I'm not sure why people think we should after watching how horrendous we've been 90% of the time when we run it.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 10:21 AM

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In a surprising move by the Baltimore Ravens, Buck Showalter has been made the new coach. j/k

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Posted: 12/10/2012 10:22 AM

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sczepp wrote: In a surprising move by Buck Showalter has been made the new coach.
I wish!

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Posted: 12/10/2012 10:33 AM

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RavenzNTerps wrote:
rantnrav wrote:
RavenzNTerps wrote:
nickh0801 wrote:
ClericBlackDave wrote:

While getting rid of Cam right now would make a lot of people happy - including Flacco - it would strike me as odd because we just scored 28 on the road.

Defense looks gross, but can you blame Pees?  Lewis, Suggs, Webb, Smith, Elerbe, McBean, all out for significant stretches of time.   Ngata, Reed just ailing.

Specials teams has been damn near lights out with Jacoby returning, Kock punting, Tucker kicking . . . coverage has been decent and on the KR in OT I feel like there was an uncalled block in the back.

If anyone, Cam.   But I think its knee jerk to do anything.  The fact is, our defense is just depleted, and guys are on the field who shouldn't be.

21 of the 28 points came in the first half when Joe was in the no huddle.  Cam started calling plays in the 2nd half...

lol we didn't run much no huddle in the first half. We haven't run much no huddle since Joe has proven incabale of running the no huddle consistently. Since Houston.
Oh good God, you are going to turn this into a Flacco bashing thread, aren't you.  Never miss the oppurtunity.
I wasn't the one who brought it up. Just pointing out the obvious, ever since we tried to run offense at "Patriots speed" (Dierdorff's words after our magnificant opening drive in Houston) Flacco has failed when attempted. We're NOT a no huddle offense. We SHOULDN'T run no huddle. I'm not sure why people think we should after watching how horrendous we've been 90% of the time when we run it.
Ok, fair enough.  It just seems that you are ready on the trigger whenever there is any talk about Flacco or the offense in general.  And don't get me wrong.  I think Flacco deserved a lot of the blame.  He needs to step up in the pocket and get the ball out on time or throw it away.  Two straight weeks he has let the backside pressure knock the ball out of his hands in crucial situations.

I'd love to know who is to blame for those back to back plays where they let an unblocked man come right in and nail Flacco.  It was either Flacco who failed to account for the extra man at the line of scrimmage, Birk for not setting the correct blocking schemes, or Cameron for not allowing them to check out of the play.  Those were two killer plays that really made the difference.  Well those two along with the failed Oher block that got the strip/sack.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 10:38 AM

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Flacco is responsible for missing that, not Cam. I have a very hard time believing that Flacco is "not allowed" to change the protection scheme when one side of the line is overloaded. And even if Cam told him not to, he's in his fifth year, he needs to do it anyways.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 10:40 AM

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Let Caldwell finish the year. Then consider Whisenhunt. He'll probably get fired and he has experience in the AFCN.




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Posted: 12/10/2012 10:43 AM

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I'm starting to wonder that this may be all just a rumor... no substance? ESPN, NFLN, and most other outlets not reporting anything?
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Posted: 12/10/2012 10:46 AM

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RchmondRvnsFan wrote: Flacco is responsible for missing that, not Cam. I have a very hard time believing that Flacco is "not allowed" to change the protection scheme when one side of the line is overloaded. And even if Cam told him not to, he's in his fifth year, he needs to do it anyways.

I think giving time to check out is the key.

Obviously, Flacco is allowed to change the play.  But the lineman's assignments are coming from Birk, and with the way he is playing physically, his mind is supposed to be the one thing he's good for.

Getting TEs and RBs to pickup pressure, and maybe asking the line to slide protection, yeah thats Flacco.

But if Cam is purposely getting plays in late instead of early, what can you do?


You can fire him I guess (if they fire him).   But honestly, I still hold that the 8 point lead was given up by the defense.  Turnovers or not, the lead was there to be held.

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Posted: 12/10/2012 10:47 AM

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ClericBlackDave wrote:
RchmondRvnsFan wrote: Flacco is responsible for missing that, not Cam. I have a very hard time believing that Flacco is "not allowed" to change the protection scheme when one side of the line is overloaded. And even if Cam told him not to, he's in his fifth year, he needs to do it anyways.

I think giving time to check out is the key.

Obviously, Flacco is allowed to change the play.  But the lineman's assignments are coming from Birk, and with the way he is playing physically, his mind is supposed to be the one thing he's good for.

Getting TEs and RBs to pickup pressure, and maybe asking the line to slide protection, yeah thats Flacco.

But if Cam is purposely getting plays in late instead of early, what can you do?


You can fire him I guess (if they fire him).   But honestly, I still hold that the 8 point lead was given up by the defense.  Turnovers or not, the lead was there to be held.

I do agree that the defense didn't help? This may end up being Dean Pees out? Who knows?
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Posted: 12/10/2012 10:48 AM

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Thedailydose wrote: I'm starting to wonder that this may be all just a rumor... no substance? ESPN, NFLN, and most other outlets not reporting anything?

Oh for sure...I can recall this rumor being spread last year but is this or isnt this CC's last year on his contract?

         

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Posted: 12/10/2012 10:49 AM

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I just tuned into WNST and the Bull Dog was on there... wtf? How does this guy still find his way on radio?

UGH! banghead
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Posted: 12/10/2012 10:58 AM

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OP you really need to change the title of this thread.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 11:00 AM

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Getting ready to discuss it on 105.7.

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Posted: 12/10/2012 11:05 AM

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Thedailydose wrote: I just tuned into WNST and the Bull Dog was on there... wtf? How does this guy still find his way on radio?

UGH! banghead
same way Cameron is still a coach in the NFL....

i cant stand the guy, but yesterday wasnt his fault. Flacco pooped the bed, and the defense couldbt get a stop when we needed one...some guy wearing a turtleneck came in off the bench and made throws to win the game.

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Posted: 12/10/2012 11:25 AM

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Cam Cameron tells ABC2 he's been let go by the Ravens

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Posted: 12/10/2012 11:25 AM

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It's official. Cam Cameron is gone.

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Posted: 12/10/2012 11:27 AM

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Posted: 12/10/2012 11:27 AM

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PurpleNemesis wrote: I heard that John Harbaugh was screaming at Cameron on the sidelines during the Redskins game. I didn't see it myself. Did anyone notice this?
yes he was.. TV crew noticed it as well..
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Posted: 12/10/2012 11:28 AM

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When you lose a home game in the last minute to a 100 year old QB who's a bench warmer, then give up the tying TD and TWO pt conversion in the last minute to a rookie filling in for a rookie, odds are the DC is the man on the hot seat, not the OC.

Cam is like Cavanaugh, it will take a crowd with pitchforks and burning torches to get him out of town.

EDIT: Correction to my red faced comment, posted before the news hit.  I'm glad I was wrong!!!!!

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