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Al Queda taking a page from the Jeffersons.

Posted: 6/11/2014 10:31 PM

Al Queda taking a page from the Jeffersons. 


They're, "moving on up!"  So fellas what's the over under on when Al Qaeda's new headquarters having a scenic view of the Tigris by September?

The northern city of Mosul was the most recent to fall, thousands of prisoners were freed in the process.  Iraqi prime minister(no need to post his name, as his tenure is about to expire) has deciared a state of emergency.
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Posted: 6/11/2014 10:54 PM

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akacrow wrote: They're, "moving on up!"  So fellas what's the over under on when Al Qaeda's new headquarters having a scenic view of the Tigris by September?

The northern city of Mosul was the most recent to fall, thousands of prisoners were freed in the process.  Iraqi prime minister(no need to post his name, as his tenure is about to expire) has deciared a state of emergency.
Obama's "Arab Spring" continues! Maybe our Dear Leader can draw another red line. 







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Posted: 6/12/2014 12:27 AM

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Should not have gone into Iraq to begin with.

They were our counter balance to Iran.

Better to assassinate the maniacal sons.

In that part of the world, the only way to counter psychopathic thugs is with bigger psychopathic thugs.

At least Saddam was a secular one.

In such a place you need a Leviathan and Saddam provided one.
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Posted: 6/12/2014 2:32 AM

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Mohara wrote: Should not have gone into Iraq to begin with.

They were our counter balance to Iran.

Better to assassinate the maniacal sons.

In that part of the world, the only way to counter psychopathic thugs is with bigger psychopathic thugs.

At least Saddam was a secular one.

In such a place you need a Leviathan and Saddam provided one.
Iraq and Iran thinned out each others populations on occasion.  Iran is primarily a threat against Israel.  From a global perspective Iran gaining nuclear capabilities is a threat, but that can be kept in check.

Your point in regards to maintaining tension is strategically sound to a point(highlighted bit).  The strategy is to give our enemies who are entrenched, another enemy in which to occupy their intentions.  Giving ones enemies another target and/or choosing the battlefield is what was achieved by invading Iraq. 

The United States has abandoned the fight, after starting it, and that never turns out well.  Look at what this administration has done, they are, in every sense, aiding the enemy.

10 U.S. Code § 904 - Art. 104. Aiding the enemy

  Any person who—
(1) aids, or attempts to aid, the enemy with arms, ammunition, supplies, money, or other things; or
(2) without proper authority, knowingly harbors or protects or gives intelligence to, or communicates or corresponds with or holds any intercourse with the enemy, either directly or indirectly;
shall suffer death or such other punishment as a court-martial or military commission may direct. This section does not apply to a military commission established under chapter 47A of this title.


Five detainees at the U.S. facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba were traded for Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, an individual who very well fits the above criteria.

As to your point in regards to secularism, the countries in the middle east need only become united under the banner of Islam to become a force of change, how one perceives that change is relative..

What I find most amusing is that "secular humanists" will take the brunt of Islamic aggression.  The Christians are the, "people of the book", and according to Muhammad and the Quran, are not the enemy of Islam.  Strangely enough, neither are the Jews.  The issue Muslims have with the Jews is their control of Israel, not their existence.   



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Posted: 6/12/2014 2:34 AM

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The United States is bringing "freedom" wherever we go. We "liberated" Iraq and Libya and gave it to the...TERRORISTS. 

The ONLY way the US withdraw wil be beneficial is if tension is maintained in the region.  I don't see this admin taking that approach. if Iraq does indeed fall to Al Qaeda, this administration not only armed a terrorist organization with military equipment that Al Qaeda strong armed from the Iraqi military, but an oil rich nation and billions of dollars in potential revenue.
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Posted: 6/12/2014 2:55 AM

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There is a term we used back in the day, it is called "mission creep", and the current administration is all about it. The internal dialog in this country in not about fiscal responsibility, education, and other topics that actually matter to the preservation of our homes and livelihood. The conversation is about two men marrying, universal health care, and climate "change". Foreign affairs amounts to aiding and abetting known enemies, apologizing for "movies" about Muhammad, and taking vacations.
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Posted: 6/12/2014 6:59 PM

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I thought Obamma ended the conflict in Iraq?  you mean to tell me the terrorists didnt listen?
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Posted: 6/12/2014 7:29 PM

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RFChuck wrote: I thought Obamma ended the conflict in Iraq?  you mean to tell me the terrorists didnt listen?
He will have ended the conflict once the Islamo-fascists seize total control and implement Sharia Law.  Yet another jewel in the crown of the administration's international policy.

But let us not pay attention to such drivel as there is so much else to reflect on that is more important - like it being 20 years since O.J. was "chased" by racist cops after he lopped of the head of his ex.
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Posted: 6/12/2014 8:08 PM

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RFChuck wrote: I thought Obamma ended the conflict in Iraq?  you mean to tell me the terrorists didnt listen?
Well, apparently according to news reports, Obama ARMED AND FUNDED THE SYRIAN REBELS WHO ARE AL QAEDA!!! The same Islam-o-Fascists that are fighting side by side with "ISIS" (al-Qaeda in Iraq)!!! These Islam-o-Fascists nutjobs have already declared no boarder between Iraq and Syria. Leftist insanity has CONSEQUENCES!!!!

We have to understand that if Baghdad falls it's a REALLY BAD THING! Not just for the region but for the world!

The consequences from this leftist disaster, our President, and the disaster he has hoisted upon us is at the point where there is nothing we can do to turn it around! It's coming fast and it's going to be horrific... Starting with the rise in gas prices next week, which will send us spiraling into a measurable recession that Obama's number-crunchers won't be able to hide!   







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Posted: 6/12/2014 11:09 PM

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Cmon now folks.... I see alot of dissatisfaction with the current president on this but dont see many potential solutions being offered...

Lets review..... the previous president and his neocon advisers decided they were going to isolate Iran. One of the keys to doing that was going to be through regime change in Iraq. A democracy with more favorable views of the west would take hold, run by a person or people who would love us and our ideals, and our life in the region would be easier. I distinctly remember Chaney telling us how we would be/were welcomed as liberators.They totally blew off the 2 biggest counterpoints that  kept Bush Sr. and his coalition of the willing from toppling Sadam a decade plus earlier. 

1) If they removed Sadam from power there would be a vacume which would lead to sectarian civil war unless there was an occupying force strong enough to prevent it. Part two was that that force would have to be prepared to stay indefinitely.

2) No force had been able to successfully occupy that region throughout history.

Now...fast forward to the present. After a decade of occupation with questionable results we left. For how long and at what cost were we supposed to stay there? 20 years? 30? 50? And given the nature of the peoples that we attempted to control how could we ever expect to garner any favor from them? We are after all infidels and outsiders. The ONLY thing that Sunnis and Shiites agree on is that we are hated as an oppressive force of occupation. I seriously question the intellect, or at least the knowledge of history,  of anyone who expected any other outcome than the one we are seeing now. And newsflash....there will be a repeat of this no matter who is president upon our withdrawal from the Afghan theater. Your hearing it here first.

Those who are ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it. I submit to you that we lost as soon as we made the decision to invade. And pleeeeeeease dont tell me about WMD. It has been pretty well documented at this point that Chaney manipulated intel and Bush to get his desired result (war). In my opinion he (Cheney) should be tried for treason.

 

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Posted: 6/12/2014 11:49 PM

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akacrow wrote: They're, "moving on up!" 

So fellas what's the over under on when Al Qaeda's new headquarters having a scenic view of the Tigris by September?


The northern city of Mosul was the most recent to fall, thousands of prisoners were freed in the process.  Iraqi prime minister(no need to post his name, as his tenure is about to expire) has deciared a state of emergency.
This particular sect of terrorists is uniquely bad. Even AL Qaeda thinks they're too crazy. They are NOT al Qaeda, they are worse!
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Posted: 6/12/2014 11:55 PM

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FloridaBasedFan wrote: Cmon now folks.... I see alot of dissatisfaction with the current president on this but dont see many potential solutions being offered...

Lets review..... the previous president and his neocon advisers decided they were going to isolate Iran. One of the keys to doing that was going to be through regime change in Iraq. A democracy with more favorable views of the west would take hold, run by a person or people who would love us and our ideals, and our life in the region would be easier. I distinctly remember Chaney telling us how we would be/were welcomed as liberators.They totally blew off the 2 biggest counterpoints that  kept Bush Sr. and his coalition of the willing from toppling Sadam a decade plus earlier. 

1) If they removed Sadam from power there would be a vacume which would lead to sectarian civil war unless there was an occupying force strong enough to prevent it. Part two was that that force would have to be prepared to stay indefinitely.

2) No force had been able to successfully occupy that region throughout history.

Now...fast forward to the present. After a decade of occupation with questionable results we left. For how long and at what cost were we supposed to stay there? 20 years? 30? 50? And given the nature of the peoples that we attempted to control how could we ever expect to garner any favor from them? We are after all infidels and outsiders. The ONLY thing that Sunnis and Shiites agree on is that we are hated as an oppressive force of occupation. I seriously question the intellect, or at least the knowledge of history,  of anyone who expected any other outcome than the one we are seeing now. And newsflash....there will be a repeat of this no matter who is president upon our withdrawal from the Afghan theater. Your hearing it here first.

Those who are ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it. I submit to you that we lost as soon as we made the decision to invade. And pleeeeeeease dont tell me about WMD. It has been pretty well documented at this point that

Chaney manipulated intel and Bush to get his desired result (war). In my opinion he (Cheney) should be tried for treason.
Maybe............

Like dual weddings, we could have dual treason trials. Cheney AND Obama. NOBODY has subverted the law more than Obama.
Go ahead and deny that!

BTW, WHERE OH WHERE is the "Scooter Libby" of THIS CIA outing? WHERE Is the outrage from Lefty like we saw during the Valerie Plame outing?

Liberal crickets are chirping on this one, as they so often do.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 12:08 AM

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Geez...you are entirely to forgiving. If I had my way there would be about 100 trials for treason, another 400 for corruption and as for the rest....well there's just not much you can do to fix stupid.

I can't wait to read someones, anyone's ideas for what our next step should be...Ive heard alot of complaints but not much in the way of possible solutions. Weve dug a pretty deep hole for ourselves. Im very interested in hearing thoughts on how to climb out of it.

 

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Posted: 6/13/2014 12:31 AM

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FloridaBasedFan wrote: Cmon now folks.... I see alot of dissatisfaction with the current president on this but dont see many potential solutions being offered...

I wish you would be more specific when making a claim that you don't see solutions that you would be satisfied with... and i think that's a reasonable request. 


Lets review..... the previous president and his neocon advisers decided they were going to isolate Iran.

Iran since the 1979 with what they call the "Islamic Revolution" isolated themselves!!! There where no "neocons" as you say in 1979! And I know you, being old enough to remember, KNOW that Jimmy F-ing Carter a Leftist Democrat was President back then, and I knows you KNOW that it was Jimmy Carter's decision to HARBOR and treat medically The Shah of Iran that inflamed the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini!!! 

Please STOP WITH THE B.S. NEOCON PARTISAN CRAP!


One of the keys to doing that was going to be through regime change in Iraq. A democracy with more favorable views of the west would take hold, run by a person or people who would love us and our ideals, and our life in the region would be easier. I distinctly remember Chaney telling us how we would be/were welcomed as liberators.They totally blew off the 2 biggest counterpoints that  kept Bush Sr. and his coalition of the willing from toppling Sadam a decade plus earlier. 

That's hilarious! You do remember who voted against the Iraq war, right... here are the YEAs:

YEAs — 77
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Breaux (D-LA)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carnahan (D-MO)
Carper (D-DE)
Cleland (D-GA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Daschle (D-SD)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Edwards (D-NC)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hollings (D-SC)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Miller (D-GA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Schumer (D-NY)
Torricelli (D-NJ)

If you remember, it was a day of speeches. Here are your brave warrior Dems, those who voted Yes, covered in testosterone (or confusion) and glory. I guess you'd call them NEOCONS...

BTW if you ask them they quickly forgot their votes for political reasons... how neocon of them. 

1) If they removed Sadam from power there would be a vacume which would lead to sectarian civil war unless there was an occupying force strong enough to prevent it. Part two was that that force would have to be prepared to stay indefinitely.


We as a whole/country and almost all of our politicians decided to take on this task! We as a whole/nation have a responsibility to make sure that the 4400 deaths and 100,000 plus wounded wasn't in vain, of all people you should understand that!


We have maintained US forces in Germany, Japan and Italy since we won WWII.  These are all fully functional democracies and allies. We still have troops in Korea and their presence has been a major stabilizing force throughtout the past 60 years. The decision to abandon Iraq was a major mistake that the Iraqis, the rest of the region and we are now paying for.


We broke it we need to fix it! Guess who said that... WE DE-STABILIZED Iraq WE need to take responsibility! STOP POLITICIZING THE DEATHS OF US SOLDIER!

2) No force had been able to successfully occupy that region throughout history.


You just said Saddam a Sunni occupied the Kurdish north and the Shiite South successfully!
 

Now...fast forward to the present. After a decade of occupation with questionable results we left.


BTW it's 8 years! And Obama declared Iraq a success in 2011! 


For how long and at what cost were we supposed to stay there? 20 years? 30? 50?


We invaded Iraq! We did that! See above!


And given the nature of the peoples that we attempted to control how could we ever expect to garner any favor from them? We are after all infidels and outsiders. The ONLY thing that Sunnis and Shiites agree on is that we are hated as an oppressive force of occupation.

You need to understand the differences between the Shia and the Sunni... Simple: the Iranian wakadoodles are Shia!  The Turks NOT the only Democracy are Sunni! GOT IT!

You see you can make claims about democracy and Muslims and get it completely WRONG when you don't even know that there are MORE THAN JUST ONE (TURKEY) THAT IS A DEMOCRACY!!!

HINT: USSR BREAK UP... THEY END WITH "STAN"


I seriously question the intellect, or at least the knowledge of history,  of anyone who expected any other outcome than the one we are seeing now.


JAPAN! ITALY! GERMANY! SOUTH KOREA! Your knowledge of history is lacking in the EXTREME!



And newsflash....there will be a repeat of this no matter who is president upon our withdrawal from the Afghan theater. Your hearing it here first.

WRONG!

Those who are ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it.


Brush up on your history, you may find some interesting contradictions to what you've confused reality with, putting it another way, your political views are confusing you!



I submit to you that we lost as soon as we made the decision to invade. And pleeeeeeease dont tell me about WMD. It has been pretty well documented at this point that Chaney manipulated intel and Bush to get his desired result (war). In my opinion he (Cheney) should be tried for treason.
Look, this is a very complicated issue, your pushing of propaganda from the Democrats who voted for this war makes you look like you're not telling the truth... just my opinion...


Oooh and BTW Obama voted for the Iraq "Surge" and supported the War in Iraq until the 2011 withdraw!!!


Seriously! did you actually think that no one remember this! ohlord



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Posted: 6/13/2014 12:38 AM

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Not enough remember it. All they remember is...........

"IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT"
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Posted: 6/13/2014 6:55 AM

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zeusman52 wrote:
FloridaBasedFan wrote: Cmon now folks.... I see alot of dissatisfaction with the current president on this but dont see many potential solutions being offered...

Lets review..... the previous president and his neocon advisers decided they were going to isolate Iran. One of the keys to doing that was going to be through regime change in Iraq. A democracy with more favorable views of the west would take hold, run by a person or people who would love us and our ideals, and our life in the region would be easier. I distinctly remember Chaney telling us how we would be/were welcomed as liberators.They totally blew off the 2 biggest counterpoints that  kept Bush Sr. and his coalition of the willing from toppling Sadam a decade plus earlier. 

1) If they removed Sadam from power there would be a vacume which would lead to sectarian civil war unless there was an occupying force strong enough to prevent it. Part two was that that force would have to be prepared to stay indefinitely.

2) No force had been able to successfully occupy that region throughout history.

Now...fast forward to the present. After a decade of occupation with questionable results we left. For how long and at what cost were we supposed to stay there? 20 years? 30? 50? And given the nature of the peoples that we attempted to control how could we ever expect to garner any favor from them? We are after all infidels and outsiders. The ONLY thing that Sunnis and Shiites agree on is that we are hated as an oppressive force of occupation. I seriously question the intellect, or at least the knowledge of history,  of anyone who expected any other outcome than the one we are seeing now. And newsflash....there will be a repeat of this no matter who is president upon our withdrawal from the Afghan theater. Your hearing it here first.

Those who are ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it. I submit to you that we lost as soon as we made the decision to invade. And pleeeeeeease dont tell me about WMD. It has been pretty well documented at this point that

Chaney manipulated intel and Bush to get his desired result (war). In my opinion he (Cheney) should be tried for treason.
Maybe............

Like dual weddings, we could have dual treason trials. Cheney AND Obama. NOBODY has subverted the law more than Obama.
Go ahead and deny that!

BTW, WHERE OH WHERE is the "Scooter Libby" of THIS CIA outing? WHERE Is the outrage from Lefty like we saw during the Valerie Plame outing?

Liberal crickets are chirping on this one, as they so often do.
My personal take is Bush "Jr" took out Saddam for trying to assassinate "Sr".

One of the consequences, among many, of the Iraq war was to give the extremists a target outside of the US, whether that was intended is irrelevant.  At this juncture what cannot happen is national stability coordinated by an "Al whatever" run government.

Yes, 100 years if necessary, and it is extremely naive to think that it will only take occupation to dis-coordinate insurgent forces unless that is not the intended goal.  

There were WMD's in Iraq, there is no doubt on that point.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 7:12 AM

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As an aside didn't Obama support the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, an organization with strong ties to Al Queda and other known terrorist organizations?
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FloridaBasedFan wrote: Cmon now folks.... I see alot of dissatisfaction with the current president on this but dont see many potential solutions being offered...

Lets review..... the previous president and his neocon advisers decided they were going to isolate Iran. One of the keys to doing that was going to be through regime change in Iraq. A democracy with more favorable views of the west would take hold, run by a person or people who would love us and our ideals, and our life in the region would be easier. I distinctly remember Chaney telling us how we would be/were welcomed as liberators.They totally blew off the 2 biggest counterpoints that  kept Bush Sr. and his coalition of the willing from toppling Sadam a decade plus earlier. 

1) If they removed Sadam from power there would be a vacume which would lead to sectarian civil war unless there was an occupying force strong enough to prevent it. Part two was that that force would have to be prepared to stay indefinitely.

2) No force had been able to successfully occupy that region throughout history.

Now...fast forward to the present. After a decade of occupation with questionable results we left. For how long and at what cost were we supposed to stay there? 20 years? 30? 50? And given the nature of the peoples that we attempted to control how could we ever expect to garner any favor from them? We are after all infidels and outsiders. The ONLY thing that Sunnis and Shiites agree on is that we are hated as an oppressive force of occupation. I seriously question the intellect, or at least the knowledge of history,  of anyone who expected any other outcome than the one we are seeing now. And newsflash....there will be a repeat of this no matter who is president upon our withdrawal from the Afghan theater. Your hearing it here first.

Those who are ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it. I submit to you that we lost as soon as we made the decision to invade. And pleeeeeeease dont tell me about WMD. It has been pretty well documented at this point that Chaney manipulated intel and Bush to get his desired result (war). In my opinion he (Cheney) should be tried for treason.
Watch out.  People have serious allergies to reason like that on this board.
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akacrow wrote:

As an aside didn't Obama support the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, an organization with strong ties to Al Queda and other known terrorist organizations?
Obama released the ISIS leader when they shut down Camp Bucca in 2009. They released everybody including
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the leader of these serial murderers. He has cobbled together some of the most extreme terror cells in the world and has grown it into the "most dangerous militant group in the world."

I guess there will be competition for that "honor" as everybody steps up their game but even the rank and file al Qaeda say these people are crazy. They have literally littered the streets with beheaded policeman and civilians. They particularly love to torture and behead Christians, but that's no problem for Obama.

He was "just a guy" being wrongfully detained in a prison that needed to be closed down. NO BIG DEAL. Right G7?

US intelligence reports from 2005 describe him al Qaeda's point man in Qaim. From a Pentagon document..........

"He was connected to the intimidation, torture and murder of local civilians in Qaim. He would kidnap individual's or entire families, accuse them, pronounce sentence and then publicly execute them."

Charming guy. Just one of the good 'ol boys.................

But Camp Bucca was the biggest prison in Iraq at the time of it's closure, and we were all focused on the "horrors" of Abu Ghraib and Gitmo.

This "gentleman" has taken particular umbrage to Osama's killing, and given that he is a homicidal maniac and somewhat intelligent, he has been able to build an army of like minded "holy warriors" to terrorize Iraq.

NO BIG DEAL that Obama released him from prison. Not a "dream team" guy either, right Galen?

Just a guy from the neighborhood....................
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GalenSevinne wrote:
FloridaBasedFan wrote: 
Watch out.  People have serious allergies to reason like that on this board.
Only the Left would claim lying, misinformation, and out and out B.S. is "reason"!

The price we are going to pay for our own Dear Leader wanting to run away from Iraq in order to have another notch in his legacy, so he can make the claim that he defeated Al Qaeda, will be exactly what Osama Bin Laden wanted: "In his 1998 fatwa, Osama Bin Laden declared his intention to use Middle East oil to fund an Islamic state in Iraq"!



16 years later, Osama-Obama is handing that Islamic state to the radical Muslims on a silver platter


Obama always said that he'd stand with the Muslims… his speech in Egypt. He's making good on that promise.


It will quickly become our problem if a radical Islamic state controls the flow of oil out of the Middle East!!!


If Obama or the Israelis or someone in the region who has some form of a military doesn't help Maliki, and quickly, Maliki's Shiite Government will end up inviting in 10's of thousands of Iranian 'peacekeepers' who will end up on the Syrian border, the Jordanian border, the Saudi border!!! Either way, Iran or Al Qaeda, Saudi Arabia is going down and so is Jordan!

Why can't you leftist drones get your heads out of the Obama's arse long enough to understand, as simply as i can say it for you, this is bad! VERY VERY BAD FOR EVERYONE NOT JUST THAT REGION OF THE WORLD!!! ohlord


STOP PLAYING POLITICS WITH OUR LIVES!




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