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Posted: 4/15/2013 4:29 PM

Boston Marathon Explosion 


I was just here posing about the Redskins when this hit the news. Looks to be at least 2 bombs and I hear a 3rd was found and detonated by the police.

I originally thought it was a generator explosion since so many of those are at the finish line.

I have also seen tweeted that the families of the NewTown shooting were in that VIP area at the finish line where the explosion took place.

Horrible...

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Posted: 4/15/2013 4:57 PM

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they have ruled out gas main  3 went off and the police detonated 2 per NBC NEWS

"When you go in the lion's den, you don't tippy toe in.You carry a spear, you go in screaming like a banshee, you kick whatever doors in, and say, 'Where's the son of a bitch!'If you go in any other way you're gonna lose.
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Posted: 4/15/2013 6:03 PM

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Reportedly two deaths - if that's true, that's near miraculous.  It's little consolation to the dead and their loved ones and the hundred plus that were injured, but the intent was obviously a lot worse.
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Posted: 4/15/2013 6:30 PM

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They are considering this a a terrorist attack. Who wouldn't? No one is gonna claim responsibility. Can't be the Taliban because they're usually quick to brag about their evils.
Good morning world!! Respect the REAL, ignore the FAKE, keep it moving, and have a GREAT DAY!
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Posted: 4/15/2013 10:42 PM

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Word is a Saudi national is a person of interest.
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Posted: 4/16/2013 2:38 AM

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Downeyoshenhun wrote: Word is a Saudi national is a person of interest.
From what I heard that "word" started on twitter. When we first heard of the bombings my room mate said that the first thing that came to her mind was North Korea and she wasn't the only one. I thought that myself before she even said it.
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Posted: 4/16/2013 8:23 AM

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extremely unlikely to be n korea planting what amounts to crude pipe bombs alnog a marathon route. highly unlikely the saudi national had anything to do with it other than simple inaccurate profiling. these moments show how woefully inaccurate the internet typically is for reporting news.
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Posted: 4/16/2013 9:13 AM

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I have an inside source that told me the police/FBI found at least 5 additional devices that were unexploded.  This could have been much, much worse.
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Posted: 4/16/2013 11:04 AM

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HEEEEEEEEAP wrote: I have an inside source that told me the police/FBI found at least 5 additional devices that were unexploded.  This could have been much, much worse.

And some FBI director guy was on Ed Norris saying this info was false, they were simply unattended bags that were treated as bombs and brought into custody, but were no bombs.
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Posted: 4/16/2013 11:16 AM

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HEEEEEEEEAP wrote: I have an inside source that told me the police/FBI found at least 5 additional devices that were unexploded.  This could have been much, much worse.

Your "insider" information has been rumored since yesterday and has been dispelled at every turn by every agency since.  Another example of the woeful internet reporting we are all becoming accustomed to after these tragedies.
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Posted: 4/16/2013 12:07 PM

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GalenSevinne wrote:
HEEEEEEEEAP wrote: I have an inside source that told me the police/FBI found at least 5 additional devices that were unexploded.  This could have been much, much worse.

Your "insider" information has been rumored since yesterday and has been dispelled at every turn by every agency since.  Another example of the woeful internet reporting we are all becoming accustomed to after these tragedies.
My "insider" is a a friend of mine for the last 30 years who ran the race and was less than a mile from the finish line at the time of the explosions.  He is an active member of the military and was assisting the police after the blasts.  Sorry guys but I will choose to believe my friend over a government official and an FBI Director who are probably trying to quell the fears of the public.  Do what you want with this information.
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Posted: 4/16/2013 1:18 PM

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OK. Choose to believe your friend. But he is not our friend. And when you run here telling us all it is "inside" information which just happens to be on every single news cast across the country and does not seem to be as much "inside information" as much as it is "totally inaccurate information" please excuse our dismissal of it.

Also, your friend sounded like he was a bit busy and in a chaotic situation and hardly has his finger on the secret location or existence of additional devices. Perhaps he did not really know what was going on despite being your friend.

This new age of media is a blessing and a curse. Rampant misinformation comes quickly and is often wildly off base. But as you can see, old ways of communicating and calling friends and whatnot also brings about wrong and inaccurate information. But this new age also provides us with amazingly good information. I think Google had a "person finder" site thingy up in like an hour or so that people could type in a name and update info about a specific person or could assure others that a person was OK.. etc.

I think we are all just lucky this does not happen MUCH more than it does, honestly.

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Posted: 4/16/2013 8:46 PM

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I would not rule out anything at this point.

The fact the weapons were low tech is more frightening to me.  That commonly purchased, untraceable components were used to create such viciously destructive IEDs is scary because it will make it harder to catch the person/persons responsible and it will make it hard to prevent this from happening again.  What are you going to do, monitor all pressure cooker sales?  You might be able to track black powder sales but what if the powder was just extracted from shotgun shells?

Lone wolf, sleeper cell, Jihadi, Saudi, Iranian, North Korean, homegrown extremists you can't rule anyone out yet.  You do that at the risk of looking foolish.
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Posted: 4/16/2013 9:36 PM

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A letter sent to Sen. Wicker (R) with Ricin on it.  There doesn't appear to be a connection to Boston but Wicker is a Republican who did not filibuster the gun control bill.  Terrorism is typically about attacking symbols in ways which psychological terror is induced but also political statements are made.  Domestic terrorism has always been more unnerving to me than international terrorism.  There are just more steps involved in pulling out a successful international terror incident which could prevent it.  Every future domestic terrorist is already in place without fear of initiating the early red flags which draw some form of attention.

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Posted: 4/16/2013 10:10 PM

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GalenSevinne wrote: A letter sent to Sen. Wicker (R) with Ricin on it.  There doesn't appear to be a connection to Boston but Wicker is a Republican who did not filibuster the gun control bill.  Terrorism is typically about attacking symbols in ways which psychological terror is induced but also political statements are made.  Domestic terrorism has always been more unnerving to me than international terrorism.  There are just more steps involved in pulling out a successful international terror incident which could prevent it.  Every future domestic terrorist is already in place without fear of initiating the early red flags which draw some form of attention.
Boy I bet that made people here cheer.frown  Our anti-terrorism guys have to be right 100% of the time where the terrorist once.  There was no chatter only AlQ in Pakistan vehemently denying it as them, in a strange way that's funny they dont want droned.  This is like McVey etal.  I'm just waiting for the ban things folks to start raiding kitchen-- I guess homemade preserves and chicken stew are next.
I am in no way trivializing what happened, but its what I have grown to expect.  Our first responders are amazing as well as the people offering strangers a bedroom, events like this bring out the best in Americans--Democrat, Republican or Independent.

"When you go in the lion's den, you don't tippy toe in.You carry a spear, you go in screaming like a banshee, you kick whatever doors in, and say, 'Where's the son of a bitch!'If you go in any other way you're gonna lose.
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Posted: 4/16/2013 10:37 PM

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Wicker is also staunchly anti-abortion, authoring bills that would make it law that life begins at conception (for those who ignore simple biology, science, and common sense). Yes, Galen, terror is indeed a way to make political statements. Kooks on both the right (McVeigh) and left (Ayers, Dohrn, Kaczynski) have utilized terrorism (it goes beyond simply 'psychological' when human lives are taken and body parts are strewn about) to make political statements. It's a big step for someone on the fringe left to call yesterday's bombing "terrorism" without knowing who is responsible or why - so for that I applaud you. It took the President a day to come around, but I believe that late today he even used the T word.
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Posted: 4/16/2013 10:56 PM

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12thRaven wrote: Wicker is also staunchly anti-abortion, authoring bills that would make it law that life begins at conception (for those who ignore simple biology, science, and common sense). Yes, Galen, terror is indeed a way to make political statements. Kooks on both the right (McVeigh) and left (Ayers, Dohrn, Kaczynski) have utilized terrorism (it goes beyond simply 'psychological' when human lives are taken and body parts are strewn about) to make political statements. It's a big step for someone on the fringe left to call yesterday's bombing "terrorism" without knowing who is responsible or why - so for that I applaud you. It took the President a day to come around, but I believe that late today he even used the T word.

Yeah, make sure you get your critical jab in on your President within a day of an American tragedy.  Its so important to get the semantics correct before the blood dries on the sidewalk.

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Posted: 4/17/2013 2:03 AM

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It seems as though lefty is secretly cheering that this is a "gun nut" that pulled this act off. Just look at the first post where resident Obama cheerleader, HB, insinuates that the parents of the Newtown victims were targets. I believe that was another completely unfounded and untrue story. I have also seen some on the right hope it was a Muslim. It's like they are itching to get in to another war. Whomever did this suffered from a severe case of sick f**ktard, just like the Newtown shooter, and the Batman shooter. One day lefty and righty will wake up and realize there isn't much the government can do to stop the sick f**ktard. Maybe the best thing the government can do is just get the hell out of the way, because it seems as if our government's actions cause flair ups in batsh*t craziness.
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Posted: 4/17/2013 9:32 AM

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It seems as though lefty is secretly cheering that this is a "gun nut" that pulled this act off. Just look at the first post where resident Obama cheerleader, HB, insinuates that the parents of the Newtown victims were targets. I believe that was another completely unfounded and untrue story. I have also seen some on the right hope it was a Muslim. It's like they are itching to get in to another war. Whomever did this suffered from a severe case of sick f**ktard, just like the Newtown shooter, and the Batman shooter. One day lefty and righty will wake up and realize there isn't much the government can do to stop the sick f**ktard. Maybe the best thing the government can do is just get the hell out of the way, because it seems as if our government's actions cause flair ups in batsh*t craziness.

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I wouldn't even say Galen or the MSMs obvious emphasis/wish that this could be a right wing extremist is thinly veiled. Yet he blasts the guy who mentions Wickers anti-abortion stance and rightly calls the president out on his timidity to use the politically perilous yet correct term "terrorism" to describe it. Right, left, jihadist, North Korean etc. Whoever did this it was terrorism. I suspect they are so afraid (by they I mean the Whitehouse, FBI, DHS everyone charged with keeping is safe) of admitting something happened on their watch that there is huge pressure to characterize it as an unpreventable lone wolf attack. That's to be expected and that may well be the case anyway. The politics of it stinks to high heaven. Even when we are attacked we are divided. Maybe moreso. Maybe that's part of what the perpetrators want.
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Posted: 4/17/2013 10:29 AM

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Mohara wrote:

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It seems as though lefty is secretly cheering that this is a "gun nut" that pulled this act off. Just look at the first post where resident Obama cheerleader, HB, insinuates that the parents of the Newtown victims were targets. I believe that was another completely unfounded and untrue story. I have also seen some on the right hope it was a Muslim. It's like they are itching to get in to another war. Whomever did this suffered from a severe case of sick f**ktard, just like the Newtown shooter, and the Batman shooter. One day lefty and righty will wake up and realize there isn't much the government can do to stop the sick f**ktard. Maybe the best thing the government can do is just get the hell out of the way, because it seems as if our government's actions cause flair ups in batsh*t craziness.

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I wouldn't even say Galen or the MSMs obvious emphasis/wish that this could be a right wing extremist is thinly veiled. Yet he blasts the guy who mentions Wickers anti-abortion stance and rightly calls the president out on his timidity to use the politically perilous yet correct term "terrorism" to describe it. Right, left, jihadist, North Korean etc. Whoever did this it was terrorism. I suspect they are so afraid (by they I mean the Whitehouse, FBI, DHS everyone charged with keeping is safe) of admitting something happened on their watch that there is huge pressure to characterize it as an unpreventable lone wolf attack. That's to be expected and that may well be the case anyway. The politics of it stinks to high heaven. Even when we are attacked we are divided. Maybe moreso. Maybe that's part of what the perpetrators want.
No one is saying it is a right wing gun nut; I find it amazing how defensive the right is over this attack.  It astounds me really.  After 9-11, "W" had something 89% approval rating until a while later when the dust settled and people could actually begin to objectively look at the incident.  Less than a couple hours later, the right is circle-jerking their stupid false flag conspiracy theories, jumping up and down demanding that Obama say the word "terrorism" like it matters it the grand scheme of things. God forbid, if someone doesn't give into their spasmodic Amygdalas and actually use something remotely around the frontal cortex to make a decision. 

No one is making any statements on what this attack was about but every piece of evidence thus far points to domestic.  You guys can project whatever issues you have with word "domestic".  Domestic could be a left wing radical who is pissed of with weak gun bills, absent climate change legislation or even overly ambitious Occupy groups. 

Of course the right wing media, from which you guys can't escape, is really worried that this comes out as a right wing extremist group upset over the threat of losing their precious gods and guns although their is no legislation outside of background checks and gay marriage which remotely threatens these illusions as it is.  So the right wing media has you predictabley drooling over Obama says "terrorism" because that is sooooooo important.  "Did he say it honey....huh huh huh...did he say terrorism yet".  I can see Hannity already whining,  "He didn't eeeeven sayyyyy Terrrroism".

How pathetically simple.

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