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I still think four wins but it really depends on how the team rally’s around the management with the LJ saga. There are always opinions. How many players secretly feel the way LJ does? How many players truly stand behind the coaching style of Haley?

Those two questions placed head-to-head will determine the season and what happens next year. The trouble is, we as fans will never really know.

moonshot314 wrote: I think if we can get to 5 wins, and put together a good offseason, there could be some excitement swirling around Arrowhead entering the 2010 season. Add those 2 things together and 9 wins isnt impossible in 2010, which would be quite a leap considering the past couple of seasons. The remaining 9 games will be about establishing some cornerstones, answering questions and laying out the foundation for next season.

I think right now it is just as conceivable that we blow all four of these possible games and the "swirling around Arrowhead" won't be exitement.  

I think this next week or two are going to answer the question as to whether or not Todd Haley is really Head Coach material.  Mr. "I can win two games with 22 guys off the streets" has been humbled; he has the by week to win this team back or lose them completely.

moonshot314 wrote: I think if we can get to 5 wins, and put together a good offseason, there could be some excitement swirling around Arrowhead entering the 2010 season. Add those 2 things together and 9 wins isnt impossible in 2010, which would be quite a leap considering the past couple of seasons. The remaining 9 games will be about establishing some cornerstones, answering questions and laying out the foundation for next season.

In addition, I think the collective bargaining agreement needs to be settled.  If it isn't, I have a feeling KC would have some trouble making any real progress.

Come next season, with no agreement and no salary cap, with the car space the Chiefs have, wouldn't this be to our advantage? I dont know just asking.

TheChieftain wrote: I said 6 wins to start the season and totally blowing the Raiders game puts me at a 5 win prediction now. I think we beat Jacksonville, Oakland, Buffalo, and Cleveland. However, I could also see us pulling 1 upset and then laying an egg in one of those 4 games. The most likely upset would have to be @ Cincinnati that team is so hot/cold week to week that we could catch them on a down week, plus they don't have a good defense.

  If we keep playing the way we're playing does anybody realistically think we'll win 5 games?  I would be shocked if we win 2 more to be honest.  Look I have been a die hard fans for years (back in late 70's on (when we stunk it up often) I think we are seriously off track and Haley is not the man to put us back on that track.  I think Cowher would be the spark this team would need to be a contender once again.  We've played well at time but we're too inconsistent.  (young team I know)  Right now I think the girl scouts would give this team fits.  Hopefully this changes as I would love to see the Chiefs be in the playoffs.  I am a transplanted Missourian who lives in Ohio and have seen the Bengals win games this year.  So yes there is hope

corpsboy wrote:

Come next season, with no agreement and no salary cap, with the car space the Chiefs have, wouldn't this be to our advantage? I dont know just asking.

Not real sure corpsboy.  I was thinking that if there was no cap, then our "cap space" would mean aboslutely nothing.  The Cowboys, Redskins, Giants, and any other large market teams could just hand over contracts that are not condusive to  the middle market or small market team's budgets.