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NFL announced sweeping new measures on domestic violence

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Posted: 8/28/2014 1:32 PM

NFL announced sweeping new measures on domestic violence 


The NFL announced sweeping new measures on domestic violence in a letter to owners today; Six games for 1st offense, lifetime ban for 2nd.

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Posted: 8/28/2014 1:47 PM

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Bout time

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Posted: 8/28/2014 1:53 PM

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Good!
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Posted: 8/28/2014 1:58 PM

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The Irony.....

BEFORE:
Ray Rice beats up his wife -- 2 Game suspension and a half ass attempted justification by Goodell claiming it was severe enough

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The NFL takes a beating in public opinion polls and across the nation for it's actions and all of sudden it's vehemently against domestic violence..... give me a break. They'd sell their grandma for a nickel if someone would buy it....
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Posted: 8/28/2014 2:11 PM

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and meanwhile, Ray Rice still just get 2 games...what a joke

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Posted: 8/28/2014 2:18 PM

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can't support this. lifetime ban is too strong. alot of these females that the players are with are not the most honest. alot of them are pure gold diggers who will do anything for the money. this now gives them a way to control these stupid players even more. with the way laws are now all it takes is a woman to claim she was assaulted and her word alone is enough to get a man charged. add to that goodell who likes to act before the players had there day in court. this just opens the door to vengeful females to making false claims to get back at guys for dumping them or cheating or any other thing they might do that doesn't involve hitting.

we seen it with rapes. countless men have been locked up for rapes that never happen because the gf got mad and made up false reports.. this is just opening the door for this kinda bs to happen
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Posted: 8/28/2014 2:46 PM

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drunkie wrote: can't support this. lifetime ban is too strong. alot of these females that the players are with are not the most honest. alot of them are pure gold diggers who will do anything for the money. this now gives them a way to control these stupid players even more. with the way laws are now all it takes is a woman to claim she was assaulted and her word alone is enough to get a man charged. add to that goodell who likes to act before the players had there day in court. this just opens the door to vengeful females to making false claims to get back at guys for dumping them or cheating or any other thing they might do that doesn't involve hitting.

we seen it with rapes. countless men have been locked up for rapes that never happen because the gf got mad and made up false reports.. this is just opening the door for this kinda bs to happen
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Posted: 8/28/2014 2:51 PM

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They are not going to ban someone from the NFL just because a girl accuses them. There's got to be serious evidence I'm sure..

It's really simple, don't surround yourself with shady people.. If a female is using you for money, you've got to be able to tell.

Regardless of the NFL penalty if you are not a good judge of character you are going to run into a lot of problems in life, especially if you are rich.
drunkie wrote: can't support this. lifetime ban is too strong. alot of these females that the players are with are not the most honest. alot of them are pure gold diggers who will do anything for the money. this now gives them a way to control these stupid players even more. with the way laws are now all it takes is a woman to claim she was assaulted and her word alone is enough to get a man charged. add to that goodell who likes to act before the players had there day in court. this just opens the door to vengeful females to making false claims to get back at guys for dumping them or cheating or any other thing they might do that doesn't involve hitting.

we seen it with rapes. countless men have been locked up for rapes that never happen because the gf got mad and made up false reports.. this is just opening the door for this kinda bs to happen

Last edited 8/28/2014 2:53 PM by NiceGuy890

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Posted: 8/28/2014 3:12 PM

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Conspiracy Theory : The NFL wanted the public support in increasing what they could do in punishing players and the way to do it is public outcry. Give Ray Rice a too low of suspension, claiming no conviction so limited powers, then when people react, swiftly implement a stiffer punishment for who all else does this and not limit it to conviction (because Ray Rice was so bad with no conviction). Players appeal anyway, so might as well aim high.

Now, taking off my conspiracy hat.
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Posted: 8/28/2014 4:11 PM

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BOOM! NFL comes out swinging.

My choice for the Chiefs' 1st Round draft pick in 2014 is...

Aaron Murray, QB Georgia (SEC Conferance)
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Posted: 8/28/2014 4:26 PM

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just like they wouldn't lock a man up for rape that he never did? most of these kids are not good judge of character. they been dealing with shady agents for years so they are  trusting of all the wrong kinda people and a a very misguided view of things. so it is very easy for them to be surrounded by the wrong kinda people.
NiceGuy890 wrote: They are not going to ban someone from the NFL just because a girl accuses them. There's got to be serious evidence I'm sure..

It's really simple, don't surround yourself with shady people.. If a female is using you for money, you've got to be able to tell.

Regardless of the NFL penalty if you are not a good judge of character you are going to run into a lot of problems in life, especially if you are rich.
drunkie wrote: can't support this. lifetime ban is too strong. alot of these females that the players are with are not the most honest. alot of them are pure gold diggers who will do anything for the money. this now gives them a way to control these stupid players even more. with the way laws are now all it takes is a woman to claim she was assaulted and her word alone is enough to get a man charged. add to that goodell who likes to act before the players had there day in court. this just opens the door to vengeful females to making false claims to get back at guys for dumping them or cheating or any other thing they might do that doesn't involve hitting.

we seen it with rapes. countless men have been locked up for rapes that never happen because the gf got mad and made up false reports.. this is just opening the door for this kinda bs to happen
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Posted: 8/28/2014 4:29 PM

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True and yes it is very sad how people get locked up for crimes they didn't commit.

Closest thing to hell is jail... To go there for something you didn't do... Absolutely terrible... I couldn't imagine it.
drunkie wrote: just like they wouldn't lock a man up for rape that he never did? most of these kids are not good judge of character. they been dealing with shady agents for years so they are  trusting of all the wrong kinda people and a a very misguided view of things. so it is very easy for them to be surrounded by the wrong kinda people.
NiceGuy890 wrote: They are not going to ban someone from the NFL just because a girl accuses them. There's got to be serious evidence I'm sure..

It's really simple, don't surround yourself with shady people.. If a female is using you for money, you've got to be able to tell.

Regardless of the NFL penalty if you are not a good judge of character you are going to run into a lot of problems in life, especially if you are rich.
drunkie wrote: can't support this. lifetime ban is too strong. alot of these females that the players are with are not the most honest. alot of them are pure gold diggers who will do anything for the money. this now gives them a way to control these stupid players even more. with the way laws are now all it takes is a woman to claim she was assaulted and her word alone is enough to get a man charged. add to that goodell who likes to act before the players had there day in court. this just opens the door to vengeful females to making false claims to get back at guys for dumping them or cheating or any other thing they might do that doesn't involve hitting.

we seen it with rapes. countless men have been locked up for rapes that never happen because the gf got mad and made up false reports.. this is just opening the door for this kinda bs to happen
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Posted: 8/28/2014 4:47 PM

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drunkie brings up a good point . . . What constitutes a first or second time "Offender?"
New version O-line will have to gel. Maybe later in season like last year
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Posted: 8/28/2014 4:51 PM

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I understand that the NFL has a corporate identity to protect and all of that, but as a general rule I don't think that places of employment should be handing out punishment for things that aren't performance related. Let the legal system handle it, for better or worse.
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Posted: 8/28/2014 5:13 PM

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Did the CBA have to ok this or is this all Goodell ? Just curious. I agree with Drunkie also it did happen to me with my EX Wife she just wanted me in trouble. Lifetime ban is way harsh and I don't see how it would stand up in court if it were to get to that
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Posted: 8/28/2014 5:58 PM

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drunkie wrote: can't support this. lifetime ban is too strong. alot of these females that the players are with are not the most honest. alot of them are pure gold diggers who will do anything for the money. this now gives them a way to control these stupid players even more. with the way laws are now all it takes is a woman to claim she was assaulted and her word alone is enough to get a man charged. add to that goodell who likes to act before the players had there day in court. this just opens the door to vengeful females to making false claims to get back at guys for dumping them or cheating or any other thing they might do that doesn't involve hitting.

we seen it with rapes. countless men have been locked up for rapes that never happen because the gf got mad and made up false reports.. this is just opening the door for this kinda bs to happen
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Posted: 8/28/2014 6:05 PM

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Most of the NFLs code of conduct rules like this are really more marketing ploy than tangible impact moves. Any suspension that allows for "mitigating circumstances" and appeals is not really in any way a mandatory sentence as some might overreact and suggest. Goodell screwed up and didnt punish Rice even remotely enough. This is a PR move more than anything. If players truly do commit violent acts against women they should lose the priviledge of playing in the NFL the first time. There is zero excuse for it. But it needs to be indisputable.


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Conspiracy Theory : The NFL wanted the public support in increasing what they could do in punishing players and the way to do it is public outcry. Give Ray Rice a too low of suspension, claiming no conviction so limited powers, then when people react, swiftly implement a stiffer punishment for who all else does this and not limit it to conviction (because Ray Rice was so bad with no conviction). Players appeal anyway, so might as well aim high.

Now, taking off my conspiracy hat.

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Posted: 8/28/2014 6:07 PM

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Adamixoye wrote: I understand that the NFL has a corporate identity to protect and all of that, but as a general rule I don't think that places of employment should be handing out punishment for things that aren't performance related. Let the legal system handle it, for better or worse.
this is pretty much my general rule also
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Posted: 8/28/2014 6:11 PM

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mloe68 wrote: Most of the NFLs code of conduct rules like this are really more marketing ploy than tangible impact moves. Any suspension that allows for "mitigating circumstances" and appeals is not really in any way a mandatory sentence as some might overreact and suggest. Goodell screwed up and didnt punish Rice even remotely enough. This is a PR move more than anything. If players truly do commit violent acts against women they should lose the priviledge of playing in the NFL the first time. There is zero excuse for it. But it needs to be indisputable.



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Posted: 8/28/2014 7:06 PM

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In the past 15 years, there have been a number of HIGH attention 'rape' cases.  From the Duke Lacross team, to the HS kid who spent 6 years or so in jail before he got the dumb ***** to admit she lied.  And recently the dumb ***** that accused her ex of downloading child porn AFTER she'd kicked him out, so now she's the one with the law coming after her.
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