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Decision Time: Should Dorsey Sign Incognito?

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Posted: 8/26/2014 10:14 AM

Decision Time: Should Dorsey Sign Incognito? 


DECISION TIME
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If the Kansas City Chiefs are going to use 2014 as a rebuilding year, they’ll probably stand pat with their roster this week. If not, GM, John Dorsey, has to be bold, courageous and lucky to shore up his roster shortcomings.

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Posted: 8/26/2014 10:58 AM

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Sign Incognito if the price is right.  Building an offensive line takes time no matter the level of draft choice.  I don't agree with you evaluation of Fisher.  I see a lot of talent and some improvement.  Health is the only issue I see.  Allen lacks starter talent at guard or tackle but could be an excellent reserve. I agree that Kush is better than Hudson right now.  The rookie guard struggles at the second level physically.  The entire line lacks communication and coordination.  Take a look at how much of the Vikings rush came off twists and delayed blitzes.  The Canadian has physical talent but is at least a year away from starter level.  The line will just take time.  The second half of the season will be much better than the first half.

I don't understand your view of Houston.  He has been a non entity in all three preseason games.  His sacks come in bunches against weak RTs.  He lacks much in the way of pass rush moves.  He lacks intensity.  Opposing offenses will chip on Hali-rarely if ever on Houston.  I would trade him for a 1st round pick today and it would not surprise me if it was tried and there are no takers.  Houston deserves elite pass rusher money about as much as Bowe is an elite WR or Flowers a shut down corner.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 12:09 PM

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eek Worst observation of a player ever, either your just plain crazy or trolling for an argument. ohlord
wgslaw wrote: Sign Incognito if the price is right.  Building an offensive line takes time no matter the level of draft choice.  I don't agree with you evaluation of Fisher.  I see a lot of talent and some improvement.  Health is the only issue I see.  Allen lacks starter talent at guard or tackle but could be an excellent reserve. I agree that Kush is better than Hudson right now.  The rookie guard struggles at the second level physically.  The entire line lacks communication and coordination.  Take a look at how much of the Vikings rush came off twists and delayed blitzes.  The Canadian has physical talent but is at least a year away from starter level.  The line will just take time.  The second half of the season will be much better than the first half.

I don't understand your view of Houston.  He has been a non entity in all three preseason games.  His sacks come in bunches against weak RTs.  He lacks much in the way of pass rush moves.  He lacks intensity.  Opposing offenses will chip on Hali-rarely if ever on Houston.  I would trade him for a 1st round pick today and it would not surprise me if it was tried and there are no takers.  Houston deserves elite pass rusher money about as much as Bowe is an elite WR or Flowers a shut down corner.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 3:24 PM

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dt584everthegreastestLB wrote: eek Worst observation of a player ever, either your just plain crazy or trolling for an argument. ohlord
wgslaw wrote: Sign Incognito if the price is right.  Building an offensive line takes time no matter the level of draft choice.  I don't agree with you evaluation of Fisher.  I see a lot of talent and some improvement.  Health is the only issue I see.  Allen lacks starter talent at guard or tackle but could be an excellent reserve. I agree that Kush is better than Hudson right now.  The rookie guard struggles at the second level physically.  The entire line lacks communication and coordination.  Take a look at how much of the Vikings rush came off twists and delayed blitzes.  The Canadian has physical talent but is at least a year away from starter level.  The line will just take time.  The second half of the season will be much better than the first half.

I don't understand your view of Houston.  He has been a non entity in all three preseason games.  His sacks come in bunches against weak RTs.  He lacks much in the way of pass rush moves.  He lacks intensity.  Opposing offenses will chip on Hali-rarely if ever on Houston.  I would trade him for a 1st round pick today and it would not surprise me if it was tried and there are no takers.  Houston deserves elite pass rusher money about as much as Bowe is an elite WR or Flowers a shut down corner.
I assume your reference is in regard to the Houston analysis.  I think factually in 2013 Houston had 3 sacks against the Jags in the season opener and 4.5 sacks against Philadelphia in the game on 9/19/13.  That is roughly about 70% of his season total.  The Jags right tackle was Luke Joekel, the second pick in the 2013 draft.  Oh, listed on the Eagles depth chart at RT for the 9/19 game was (drum roll) Lane Johnson, the third pick at OT in the 2013 draft.  Now you can believe that Fisher is a bust and that Joekel was a much superior choice at OT who just go showed up by our super outside line backer.  However, I would see that as a belief not based in fact (sometimes referred to as a delusion) and not an analysis.  I think young OTs, notwithstanding they are very talented, will struggle in the NFL.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 9:44 PM

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I think that Houston is a decent pass rusher but hes phenom against the rush.  He plays with tremendous leverage and strength to set the edge, when he goes out they can run right at his replacement.

Ford will be the best pass rusher on the roster by mid season imo.

I say sign anyone they can get.  The interior O-line is terrible and for whatever reason they dont seem eager to throw Kush into the fire just yet


Also I think Joekel will be a better player than Fisher.  (just my 2 cents)

Last edited 8/26/2014 9:47 PM by xztop12

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Posted: 8/27/2014 12:32 AM

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Fisher to the bench? Yeah ****** right. I don't understand why people are calling him a bust after 1 season. The sky is the limit, he's young and can and will improve. People need to be patient.
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Posted: 8/28/2014 5:47 PM

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Fisher needs a savvy vet next to him to help him mature quicker. Imagine his potential with a guy like Brian Waters next to him for mentoring and on/off field player coaching. He doesn't have anyone like that on the line right now with Stephenson (a career backup) being the oldest OL. We need a veteran like Boone or Incognito to come in and provide a veteran presence IMO.
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