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Bengals QB Andy Dalton Gets $115 Million Extension

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Posted: 8/4/2014 9:11 AM

Bengals QB Andy Dalton Gets $115 Million Extension 


@ESPNNFL: BREAKING: Bengals + QB Andy Dalton reach agreement on 6-year, $115M contract ext

(via @AdamSchefter and @caplannfl) t.co/qrpHxlCCbS

Get ready to pay Alex big money guys. This is going to ante it all up and give Alex leverage.
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Last edited 8/4/2014 4:02 PM by ChiefsInsider

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Posted: 8/4/2014 9:27 AM

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Dalton is 26 years old and this was his first real contract. He was going to get paid.

Is it a team friendly deal like Kaep got? then I'd sign Alex to that 6x 1 year deal all day long.
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Posted: 8/4/2014 10:10 AM

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It's definitely going to be incentive based.. Probably almost all QB deals will be from now on.

Still in today's NFL with all the rules favoring the offense and all the bad defenses in the NFL these QBs should easily be able to get those incentives... But when they make it to the playoffs and do against the good defenses, that's when you need them to really step up and I don't see in Dalton (yet, maybe he'll get better).

Terrible contract IMO.
jaa1025 wrote: Dalton is 26 years old and this was his first real contract. He was going to get paid.

Is it a team friendly deal like Kaep got? then I'd sign Alex to that 6x 1 year deal all day long.
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Posted: 8/4/2014 10:43 AM

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We will just have to wait and see the contract. I still think a lower yearly average but more guaranteed pay up front will get it done.
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Posted: 8/4/2014 10:48 AM

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18m don't seem so bad at this point... LOL!
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Posted: 8/4/2014 10:55 AM

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Dalton is comparable in talent so I suppose this is close to what smith will get. Then again Dalton is home grown and younger...
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Posted: 8/4/2014 10:57 AM

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So true.. I warned people that this might happen.
Rickdawg58 wrote: 18m don't seem so bad at this point... LOL!
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Posted: 8/4/2014 11:03 AM

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QB contracts are at an all-time high. We all have to come to the realization that 17-19 million for a top 15 QB is going rate. Its truely an organization altering decision that they face. Its been discussed consistently but do you give a QB is in his prime a huge deal or rest your laurels on a young cheap QB.

I think they give Alex the deal soley based on the age of the stars of this team. The young talent is there, but DJ, Hali and others only have few top notch years left. Just look at the Jamaal deal..for me it sets up going for it for the next two years. That is why I fully expect Alex to get a deal done.
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Posted: 8/4/2014 11:04 AM

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We will just have to wait and see the contract. I still think a lower yearly average but more guaranteed pay up front will get it done.

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Nfl network said it's a Kaepernick type deal. They have an out in 2 years
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Posted: 8/4/2014 11:15 AM

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We need to give Alex Smith a similar type of deal especially if he plays well for us this year.

You don't want give up two 2nd-round-picks for a guy, let him go, start over with a new QB when you have all the talent we have.

Plus if we do get another QB and develop him, when his contract runs out in a couple years it'll probably cost even more to sign QBs then.
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We will just have to wait and see the contract. I still think a lower yearly average but more guaranteed pay up front will get it done.

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Nfl network said it's a Kaepernick type deal. They have an out in 2 years
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Posted: 8/4/2014 11:57 AM

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NiceGuy890 wrote: We need to give Alex Smith a similar type of deal especially if he plays well for us this year.  Right, I don't think Dorsey and Hunt are willing to shell out this kind of contract after 1 year.  If Smith goes out and plays well this year, then pay the guy.

You don't want give up two 2nd-round-picks for a guy, let him go, start over with a new QB when you have all the talent we have.  True, but you don't want another Elvis Grbac situation either.  I think the key here is patience.

Plus if we do get another QB and develop him, when his contract runs out in a couple years it'll probably cost even more to sign QBs then. 
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We will just have to wait and see the contract. I still think a lower yearly average but more guaranteed pay up front will get it done.

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Nfl network said it's a Kaepernick type deal. They have an out in 2 years
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Posted: 8/4/2014 12:48 PM

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It's simple really. We are going to pay that money to Alex or he won't sign. He's already been rumored to want that much and everyone in our front office loves him.

We just need to make sure that we do the contract the right way so we pay more in bonuses/gaurantee's and have an out after 2 or 3 years.

Still think the plan is to draft his replacement eventually and do this the Aaron Rodgers way.
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Posted: 8/4/2014 2:16 PM

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The real numbers are 6 years, $14 million per year ($96 million total), with the opportunity of escalators.  This is actually a great contract.
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Posted: 8/4/2014 2:26 PM

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I wouldn't be surprised to see them replace Dalton and they give him a huge deal by seriously overpaying. It's a surprising move. Obviously it's incentive based but still Bengals tied themselves to Dalton for a while.
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Posted: 8/4/2014 3:30 PM

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woodenberries wrote: The real numbers are 6 years, $14 million per year ($96 million total), with the opportunity of escalators.  This is actually a great contract.
The REAL real number is $17 million guaranteed.

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Posted: 8/4/2014 3:34 PM

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Bengals lol... No wonder they've won 0 SBs...
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woodenberries wrote: The real numbers are 6 years, $14 million per year ($96 million total), with the opportunity of escalators.  This is actually a great contract.
The REAL real number is $17 million guaranteed.
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Posted: 8/4/2014 3:35 PM

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NiceGuy890 wrote: Bengals lol... No wonder they've won 0 SBs...
mpf8888 wrote:
woodenberries wrote: The real numbers are 6 years, $14 million per year ($96 million total), with the opportunity of escalators.  This is actually a great contract.
The REAL real number is $17 million guaranteed.
How is that lol Bengals?  $17 G is genius for them.

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Posted: 8/4/2014 4:16 PM

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All these "deals" are crippling. If we do a deal similar this franchise will be setback for years. We already know how bad our money situation is now, so why make it worse? Please let this franchise develop its own homegrown guy once every few decades, and save the money for other elite talent (Charles, Houston, etc) So we aren't consistently stuck in mediocre-ville, not able to win a playoff game.
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Posted: 8/4/2014 4:32 PM

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mpf8888 wrote:
woodenberries wrote: The real numbers are 6 years, $14 million per year ($96 million total), with the opportunity of escalators.  This is actually a great contract.
The REAL real number is $17 million guaranteed.
You see, I was thinking this contract would get the ball rolling. There are no more things for Smith's camp to wait for, in case they didn't want Dalton to get more than Smith just because. Maybe this is the "see! This is the going rate" they were hoping for. (Though I see dissimilarities in age and production.) Now that Dalton is done, who else is there? Griffin is waiting for next year. Luck and Wilson can't sign yet and will get more anyway.

But then, hearing this amount guaranteed tells me Smith won't sign for that (17). So maybe that sticks the negotiations. Maybe he doesn't sign and plays this one out. Worst case besides injury or regression, he gets 17 next year. Start the 7 years next year (with escape clauses earlier). No way Smith would hurry to get a 17 million guarantee. He'd get that if he moved elsewhere to be a stopgap. Might as well ask for more guaranteed (total amount, no).
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Posted: 8/4/2014 4:34 PM

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Quatrocky wrote: All these "deals" are crippling. If we do a deal similar this franchise will be setback for years. We already know how bad our money situation is now, so why make it worse? Please let this franchise develop its own homegrown guy once every few decades, and save the money for other elite talent (Charles, Houston, etc) So we aren't consistently stuck in mediocre-ville, not able to win a playoff game.

I agree with a lot of that, but not the history based. These are different people running the team, coaching the team, and playing for the team. Whatever you said has to apply in general to teams and it has some logic. But I'm not attaching that to us because we had Cassel, Greene, Joe, Quinn, yada, yada, yada.
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