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Posted: 6/28/2014 3:45 PM

Harris in, the Beard out? 


Bob Gretz thinks so...very good to see they continue to be very high on Harris potential. We however cannot feel comfortable with Kelces knee situation yet...

Demetrius Harris: Ready to play? If so, who hits the road? I’d think it depends on Travis Kelce’s health
As a receiving tight end, Harris is ready to play. During the off-season practices he was impressive showing his pass catching abilities. Oh, he drops a few here and there, but he makes all the difficult catches. But whether he’s ready to play in the NFL will depend on how he adapts to blocking and the physical nature of the tight end position. That’s something that can’t be replicated in practices where contact is outlawed. He will have a fighting chance for playing time and I don’t see any way the Chiefs would release him and walk away from all the work that went into turning him from a basketball player to a football player. Only a complete training camp/pre-season face plant will keep him off the final-53. I think there’s a chance Sean McGrath could be the odd man out, if Kelce stays healthy.
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Posted: 6/28/2014 4:20 PM

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Right now Kelce seems to be heading towards IR so Harris has serious chance, however he needs to prove himself worthy in the physical aspect of the game. A TE in NFL needs to be ready for a lot of contact.
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Posted: 6/28/2014 5:34 PM

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time to cut bait on Kelce


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Posted: 6/28/2014 5:48 PM

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Cut bait on Kelce...huh?? The guy had knee surgery and is now almost ready for full contact. Why would we possibly release a player they are very high on because of one injury he is almost back from. If he isnt 100 percent the PUP list is the best option minus this being some degenerative thing. All signs however point to him participating in training camp where im sure they will be cautious with him early on.

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Posted: 6/28/2014 8:47 PM

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sithlord13 wrote: Right now Kelce seems to be heading towards IR so Harris has serious chance, however he needs to prove himself worthy in the physical aspect of the game. A TE in NFL needs to be ready for a lot of contact.
are we just making stuff up these days?

at least source this info about Kelce.
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Posted: 6/28/2014 9:20 PM

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It looks like while he will likely be eased back into contact that his prognosis is such they expect to have a healthy Travis Kelce in training camp. So its really less about where he is in the rehab process now and more about how the knee handles actual contact.


From Gretz...
Tight end Travis Kelce – last season was a frustrating start of Kelce’s NFL career. He was active but did not play in the season opener, then was a game-day inactive for the next four games before he was placed on the injured reserve list on October 12th due to a knee injury that required micro-fracture surgery. He suffered a bone bruise during training camp and MRI tests did not show the problem. Once he underwent an arthroscopic exam, doctors saw the spot where cartilage attaches to the femur. He had the surgery on October 8th and was placed on injured-reserve four days later. It was not until the mini-camp last week that Kelce actively took part in drills, but his work was limited to running pass routes against air. The true test on his knee repair will come in training camp when he has to block.

From ESPN...

News: Kelce (knee) participated in individual drills during the first day of Chiefs' mandatory minicamp Tuesday, ESPN.com reports.Impact: Though Kelce, who is bouncing back from microfracture surgery on his knee, figures to be eased back into action, his presence on the field Tuesday is a good sign. Assuming his knee holds up, the 2013 third-rounder is a candidate to provide a boost to the Chiefs' passing game this season.(RotoWire, 9:27:06 am)



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sithlord13 wrote: Right now Kelce seems to be heading towards IR so Harris has serious chance, however he needs to prove himself worthy in the physical aspect of the game. A TE in NFL needs to be ready for a lot of contact.
are we just making stuff up these days?

at least source this info about Kelce.

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Posted: 6/29/2014 9:33 AM

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This is why fans are thankfully not in charge of personnel. 

mloe68 wrote:
Cut bait on Kelce...huh?? The guy had knee surgery and is now almost ready for full contact. Why would we possibly release a player they are very high on because of one injury he is almost back from. If he isnt 100 percent the PUP list is the best option minus this being some degenerative thing. All signs however point to him participating in training camp where im sure they will be cautious with him early on.

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time to cut bait on Kelce

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Posted: 6/29/2014 9:34 AM

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I haven't heard anything on Kelce other than he has been getting more and more work, appears to be ready, and has looked decent so far. Have no idea where he is getting this IR crap from but it isn't consistent with the reports I have read. 

firesticks wrote:
sithlord13 wrote: Right now Kelce seems to be heading towards IR so Harris has serious chance, however he needs to prove himself worthy in the physical aspect of the game. A TE in NFL needs to be ready for a lot of contact.
are we just making stuff up these days?

at least source this info about Kelce.

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Posted: 6/29/2014 10:43 AM

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That might be the craziest thing I've read on this site all morning.  First of all, Kelce was drafted int he 3rd round last year.  Teams aren't going to walk away from a player drafted that high, that soon, just because they were injured one time.

Secondly, Kelce was the star of OTAs and training camp last year, earning rave reviews from coaches and media alike.  

Thirdly, this team desperately needs vertical production from it's TE group this year.  Kelce fit's that mold to a "T".
mloe68 wrote:
Cut bait on Kelce...huh?? The guy had knee surgery and is now almost ready for full contact. Why would we possibly release a player they are very high on because of one injury he is almost back from. If he isnt 100 percent the PUP list is the best option minus this being some degenerative thing. All signs however point to him participating in training camp where im sure they will be cautious with him early on.

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time to cut bait on Kelce

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Posted: 6/30/2014 2:48 AM

Re: Harris in, the Beard out? 



firesticks wrote:
sithlord13 wrote: Right now Kelce seems to be heading towards IR so Harris has serious chance, however he needs to prove himself worthy in the physical aspect of the game. A TE in NFL needs to be ready for a lot of contact.
are we just making stuff up these days?

at least source this info about Kelce.
Kelce came in as a rookie and has not practiced at all in the NFL ever since the injury. The prognosis was for him to be ready for full contact by the OTAs (posted a few times on this board). So far he's still working with trainers and the new prognosis is for him to be ready for contact by the TC. They just keep pushing back the date. That's why I said "seems to be" rather than "is". 

TC is just around the corner and there hasn't been any news on Kelce lately, that's a reason for concern IMO.
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Posted: 6/30/2014 8:30 AM

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sithlord13 wrote:
firesticks wrote:
sithlord13 wrote: Right now Kelce seems to be heading towards IR so Harris has serious chance, however he needs to prove himself worthy in the physical aspect of the game. A TE in NFL needs to be ready for a lot of contact.
are we just making stuff up these days?

at least source this info about Kelce.
Kelce came in as a rookie and has not practiced at all in the NFL ever since the injury. The prognosis was for him to be ready for full contact by the OTAs (posted a few times on this board). So far he's still working with trainers and the new prognosis is for him to be ready for contact by the TC. They just keep pushing back the date. That's why I said "seems to be" rather than "is". 

TC is just around the corner and there hasn't been any news on Kelce lately, that's a reason for concern IMO.
Kelce got hurt in TC last year and came back to even dress for 1 game last year so he has practiced at the NFL level.  There's no contact in OTA's anyway and all media outlets reported during OTA's that Kelce was getting work in individual drills.  They are going to ease him back in.
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Posted: 6/30/2014 8:47 AM

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Huh......because Andy Reid has been saying training camp all off-season. Maybe you should pay more attention to our head coach?


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firesticks wrote:
sithlord13 wrote: Right now Kelce seems to be heading towards IR so Harris has serious chance, however he needs to prove himself worthy in the physical aspect of the game. A TE in NFL needs to be ready for a lot of contact.
are we just making stuff up these days?

at least source this info about Kelce.
Kelce came in as a rookie and has not practiced at all in the NFL ever since the injury. The prognosis was for him to be ready for full contact by the OTAs (posted a few times on this board). So far he's still working with trainers and the new prognosis is for him to be ready for contact by the TC. They just keep pushing back the date. That's why I said "seems to be" rather than "is". 

TC is just around the corner and there hasn't been any news on Kelce lately, that's a reason for concern IMO.

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Posted: 6/30/2014 9:34 AM

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sithlord13 wrote:
firesticks wrote:
sithlord13 wrote: Right now Kelce seems to be heading towards IR so Harris has serious chance, however he needs to prove himself worthy in the physical aspect of the game. A TE in NFL needs to be ready for a lot of contact.
are we just making stuff up these days?

at least source this info about Kelce.
Kelce came in as a rookie and has not practiced at all in the NFL ever since the injury. The prognosis was for him to be ready for full contact by the OTAs (posted a few times on this board). So far he's still working with trainers and the new prognosis is for him to be ready for contact by the TC. They just keep pushing back the date. That's why I said "seems to be" rather than "is". 

TC is just around the corner and there hasn't been any news on Kelce lately, that's a reason for concern IMO.
He was doing more than just working with trainers. Full contact isn't allowed in OTA's anyway. There's been photo's out showing how good he has looked. Won't do all the leg work tracking it all down...but this was reported just 2 weeks ago....

Travis Kelce picked up where he left off last year. He showcased the athletic ability. Some good catches today. He looked 100%

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Posted: 6/30/2014 9:55 AM

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Kelce was dreadful last year in preseason. He couldn't catch a cold. That plus his knee is a concern even with him coming back. You never know with a knee or back problem.

Hope he becomes a nice weapon for us bc we need him.
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Posted: 7/1/2014 4:57 AM

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I hope that turns out to be the case but I heard more news on the exact opposite just like this one http://www.kansascity.com/spor...99s-return.html

Tough to believe in the reports until we actually see him do something.
SBIVMvp wrote:
sithlord13 wrote:
firesticks wrote:
sithlord13 wrote: Right now Kelce seems to be heading towards IR so Harris has serious chance, however he needs to prove himself worthy in the physical aspect of the game. A TE in NFL needs to be ready for a lot of contact.
are we just making stuff up these days?

at least source this info about Kelce.
Kelce came in as a rookie and has not practiced at all in the NFL ever since the injury. The prognosis was for him to be ready for full contact by the OTAs (posted a few times on this board). So far he's still working with trainers and the new prognosis is for him to be ready for contact by the TC. They just keep pushing back the date. That's why I said "seems to be" rather than "is". 

TC is just around the corner and there hasn't been any news on Kelce lately, that's a reason for concern IMO.
He was doing more than just working with trainers. Full contact isn't allowed in OTA's anyway. There's been photo's out showing how good he has looked. Won't do all the leg work tracking it all down...but this was reported just 2 weeks ago....

Travis Kelce picked up where he left off last year. He showcased the athletic ability. Some good catches today. He looked 100%

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Posted: 7/1/2014 7:24 AM

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I'm not sure what you are talking about. This report is almost a month old and basically just recaps what Kelce has been through. Kelce was reportedly out running and catching so not sure what the problem is. Also just went and checked. The report is dated. Mandatory minicamp took place on June 17-19. This report came out on June 5. Seems like some are just looking for stuff to worry about. 

sithlord13 wrote: I hope that turns out to be the case but I heard more news on the exact opposite just like this one http://www.kansascity.com/spor...99s-return.html

Tough to believe in the reports until we actually see him do something.
SBIVMvp wrote:
sithlord13 wrote:
firesticks wrote:
sithlord13 wrote: Right now Kelce seems to be heading towards IR so Harris has serious chance, however he needs to prove himself worthy in the physical aspect of the game. A TE in NFL needs to be ready for a lot of contact.
are we just making stuff up these days?

at least source this info about Kelce.
Kelce came in as a rookie and has not practiced at all in the NFL ever since the injury. The prognosis was for him to be ready for full contact by the OTAs (posted a few times on this board). So far he's still working with trainers and the new prognosis is for him to be ready for contact by the TC. They just keep pushing back the date. That's why I said "seems to be" rather than "is". 

TC is just around the corner and there hasn't been any news on Kelce lately, that's a reason for concern IMO.
He was doing more than just working with trainers. Full contact isn't allowed in OTA's anyway. There's been photo's out showing how good he has looked. Won't do all the leg work tracking it all down...but this was reported just 2 weeks ago....

Travis Kelce picked up where he left off last year. He showcased the athletic ability. Some good catches today. He looked 100%

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Posted: 7/1/2014 10:23 AM

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It does give some concern to worry about.....a 3rd round pick who had nagging injuries throughout his college career, who we've all had high hopes on, and then gets bumped back with another injury and not capable of helping.  Especially in a position that could have really shown a completely different look offensive-scheme-wise.  We all know that TE's get banged up every year.....his knee has a big bullseye on it......so in my opinion...there is reason for concern.  But AP came back and proved a lot of people wrong....as have many others.  IMO, if he's going to be helpful, I want him here.  If he is going to be a Derrick Rose or a Greg Oden......he can move on......not his fault or the Chiefs....this stuff happens.
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Posted: 7/1/2014 11:52 AM

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Unfortunately some fans like worrying about things instead of enjoying their team.

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I'm not sure what you are talking about. This report is almost a month old and basically just recaps what Kelce has been through. Kelce was reportedly out running and catching so not sure what the problem is. Also just went and checked. The report is dated. Mandatory minicamp took place on June 17-19. This report came out on June 5. Seems like some are just looking for stuff to worry about. 

sithlord13 wrote: I hope that turns out to be the case but I heard more news on the exact opposite just like this one www.kansascity.com/spor...99s-return.html

Tough to believe in the reports until we actually see him do something.
SBIVMvp wrote:
sithlord13 wrote:
firesticks wrote:
sithlord13 wrote: Right now Kelce seems to be heading towards IR so Harris has serious chance, however he needs to prove himself worthy in the physical aspect of the game. A TE in NFL needs to be ready for a lot of contact.
are we just making stuff up these days?

at least source this info about Kelce.
Kelce came in as a rookie and has not practiced at all in the NFL ever since the injury. The prognosis was for him to be ready for full contact by the OTAs (posted a few times on this board). So far he's still working with trainers and the new prognosis is for him to be ready for contact by the TC. They just keep pushing back the date. That's why I said "seems to be" rather than "is". 

TC is just around the corner and there hasn't been any news on Kelce lately, that's a reason for concern IMO.
He was doing more than just working with trainers. Full contact isn't allowed in OTA's anyway. There's been photo's out showing how good he has looked. Won't do all the leg work tracking it all down...but this was reported just 2 weeks ago....

Travis Kelce picked up where he left off last year. He showcased the athletic ability. Some good catches today. He looked 100%



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Posted: 7/1/2014 2:28 PM

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KCChiefsfan75 wrote: I'm not sure what you are talking about. This report is almost a month old and basically just recaps what Kelce has been through. Kelce was reportedly out running and catching so not sure what the problem is. Also just went and checked. The report is dated. Mandatory minicamp took place on June 17-19. This report came out on June 5. Seems like some are just looking for stuff to worry about. 

sithlord13 wrote: I hope that turns out to be the case but I heard more news on the exact opposite just like this one http://www.kansascity.com/spor...99s-return.html

Tough to believe in the reports until we actually see him do something.
SBIVMvp wrote:
sithlord13 wrote:
firesticks wrote:
sithlord13 wrote: Right now Kelce seems to be heading towards IR so Harris has serious chance, however he needs to prove himself worthy in the physical aspect of the game. A TE in NFL needs to be ready for a lot of contact.
are we just making stuff up these days?

at least source this info about Kelce.
Kelce came in as a rookie and has not practiced at all in the NFL ever since the injury. The prognosis was for him to be ready for full contact by the OTAs (posted a few times on this board). So far he's still working with trainers and the new prognosis is for him to be ready for contact by the TC. They just keep pushing back the date. That's why I said "seems to be" rather than "is". 

TC is just around the corner and there hasn't been any news on Kelce lately, that's a reason for concern IMO.
He was doing more than just working with trainers. Full contact isn't allowed in OTA's anyway. There's been photo's out showing how good he has looked. Won't do all the leg work tracking it all down...but this was reported just 2 weeks ago....

Travis Kelce picked up where he left off last year. He showcased the athletic ability. Some good catches today. He looked 100%


when did his injury become a torn ACL? I'm not a doctor, but I thought it was a bone bruise.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 7:32 AM

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And yet another report from yesterday (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/t...00274--nfl.html) says that Kelce has only been able to do some position drills and installation work so far. Also saying that they are expecting for him to be ready for the TC. As I said i don't believe in reports until I hear the coaches talk about the guy or actually see the progress as there seems to be info on every direction.

I'm hoping he'll be ready for the TC and the season as he was my favorite pick in last year's draft as a guy that could be a big difference maker. However I don't want to jump on any bandwagon as the reports just keep giving a lot of false hope.
KCChiefsfan75 wrote: I'm not sure what you are talking about. This report is almost a month old and basically just recaps what Kelce has been through. Kelce was reportedly out running and catching so not sure what the problem is. Also just went and checked. The report is dated. Mandatory minicamp took place on June 17-19. This report came out on June 5. Seems like some are just looking for stuff to worry about. 

sithlord13 wrote: I hope that turns out to be the case but I heard more news on the exact opposite just like this one http://www.kansascity.com/spor...99s-return.html

Tough to believe in the reports until we actually see him do something.
SBIVMvp wrote:
sithlord13 wrote:
firesticks wrote:
sithlord13 wrote: Right now Kelce seems to be heading towards IR so Harris has serious chance, however he needs to prove himself worthy in the physical aspect of the game. A TE in NFL needs to be ready for a lot of contact.
are we just making stuff up these days?

at least source this info about Kelce.
Kelce came in as a rookie and has not practiced at all in the NFL ever since the injury. The prognosis was for him to be ready for full contact by the OTAs (posted a few times on this board). So far he's still working with trainers and the new prognosis is for him to be ready for contact by the TC. They just keep pushing back the date. That's why I said "seems to be" rather than "is". 

TC is just around the corner and there hasn't been any news on Kelce lately, that's a reason for concern IMO.
He was doing more than just working with trainers. Full contact isn't allowed in OTA's anyway. There's been photo's out showing how good he has looked. Won't do all the leg work tracking it all down...but this was reported just 2 weeks ago....

Travis Kelce picked up where he left off last year. He showcased the athletic ability. Some good catches today. He looked 100%

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