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LOL..Mike Ditka goes off on the anti-Redskin liberals over name

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Posted: 8/20/2014 12:45 PM

LOL..Mike Ditka goes off on the anti-Redskin liberals over name 


Too bad for him coz IMO it's no longer a matter if the name will change but when

Mike Ditka wants anti-Redskins liberals to get off his lawn

Posted by Michael David Smith on August 20, 2014, 1:14 PM EDT
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Mike Ditka is the crusty old coot of the football world, the grandpa you love even as he says things that make you cringe. So now that Ditka has waded into the controversy over the Washington NFL team’s name, it’s tempting to ignore him, just as you try to ignore the old neighbor who talks your ear off about how everything was better back in his day, when men were men and Herbert Hoover was president.

Still, the 74-year-old Ditka’s recent comments about the Redskins name have received enough attention that they probably merit a response. Ditka talked to a totally unbiased website called RedskinsHistorian.com, and he made it clear that he’s angry about this newfangled effort to change the name of the team in Washington.

“What’s all the stink over the Redskin name?” Ditka said. “It’s so much horse s–t it’s incredible. We’re going to let the liberals of the world run this world.”

Ditka has never made any secret of his dislike of liberals. Ditka briefly considered running against Barack Obama in the 2004 U.S. Senate race in Illinois, and he has said declining to do that is his greatest regret in life, because he believes he could have prevented Obama from becoming president. But if Ditka thinks only liberals oppose the use of a racial slur as the name of an NFL team, he’s sorely mistaken. John McCain, who unlike Ditka really did run against Obama, has said the Redskins should probably change their name. Charles Krauthammer, the Pulitzer Prize-winning columnist for the Washington Post who is among the most conservative voices in the American media, has written that the team should change its name. Tom Cole, a Republican who is one of only two Native Americans in Congress, wrote to Commissioner Roger Goodell that, “The NFL can no longer ignore this and perpetuate the use of this name as anything but what it is: a racial slur.”

Whether opponents of the team name are liberal or conservative, Ditka believes they’re wrong. Just as Daniel Snyder has, Ditka insists that the team’s name is meant as a sign of respect.

“It was said out of reverence, out of pride to the American Indian. Even though it was called a Redskin, what are you going to call them, a Brownskin? This is so stupid, it’s appalling,” Ditka said.

But right there, with his own example, Ditka is showing the problem with the name “Redskins.” Ditka seems to realize that we would never tolerate a team being called the Brownskins. So why does he think we should tolerate a team being called the Redskins? Ditka appeals to tradition in support of his beliefs.

“It’s been the name of the team since the beginning of football. It has nothing to do with something that happened lately, or something that somebody dreamed up. This was the name, period. I mean, leave it alone,” Ditka said.

Ditka is wrong that “Redskins” has been the team’s name since the beginning of football. It’s actually been the team name only since 1933. It’s also true that the owner who gave them the Redskins name, George Preston Marshall, was a vicious racist who refused to sign black players until 1962, when the federal government told him his team wouldn’t be permitted to play in Washington, D.C., anymore if he didn’t agree to integrate. Times change.

Snyder won’t change, however, and Ditka believes that Snyder deserves respect for his stubborn stance against changing his team’s name.

“I admire him for it,” Ditka said. “Really, I think it’s tradition, it’s history, it’s part of the National Football League. It was about Sammy Baugh and all the guys who were Redskins way back then. I didn’t think that Lombardi and Halas never had a problem with it, why would all these other idiots have a problem with the name? I’m sorry. I’m not very tolerant when it comes to the liberals who complain about everything.”

It may be true that Vince Lombardi and George Halas had no problem with the name “Redskins” when they were involved in the NFL, many decades ago. It is also utterly irrelevant to the question of whether “Redskins” is an appropriate name for a team in 2014.

There’s a lot to respect about Ditka, a Hall of Fame tight end turned Super Bowl-winning coach who has been a great ambassador for the game of football. But Ditka also talks a lot about that which he knows nothing. This is one of those times

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Posted: 8/20/2014 1:02 PM

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As I've stated before, they should not change their name.  Say the term "Redskins" to people today and most people are going to think of the football team, not a racial slur.  Hell, I didn't even realize it was a racist term when I was a child.  A word is not racist unless you give it racial meaning which is what people are doing.  No one is using it as a sign of disrespect, it's a team name.  I swear people just want to cry over every little thing.

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Posted: 8/20/2014 1:05 PM

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Mike Carey reveals he declined to referee Redskins games

Posted by Michael David Smith on August 20, 2014, 11:40 AM EDT
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Mike Carey, long one of the NFL’s best referees and now a TV analyst, has revealed something that hadn’t previously been disclosed: Over the last several years of his career, he declined to work Redskins games because he was offended by the team’s name.

“The league respectfully honored my request not to officiate Washington,” Carey told the Washington Post. “It happened sometime after I refereed their playoff game in 2006, I think.”

Carey, who was the first African-American to referee a Super Bowl, said that he decided he had had enough after working that playoff game in January of 2006.

“It just became clear to me that to be in the middle of the field, where something disrespectful is happening, was probably not the best thing for me,” Carey said.

Although Carey didn’t want to make a big public show of his opposition to the Washington team’s name, he did say that he didn’t feel right about being a part of games that featured a team whose name is a racial slur.

“Human beings take social stances,” he said. “And if you’re respectful of all human beings, you have to decide what you’re going to do and why you’re going to do it.”

The NFL was able to handle the Carey situation quietly, but this is a growing problem for the league: There’s a substantial portion of the population that opposes the Washington team’s name, and that includes people who work within the NFL

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Posted: 8/20/2014 1:06 PM

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CowboysRule wrote: As I've stated before, they should not change their name.  Say the term "Redskins" to people today and most people are going to think of the football team, not a racial slur.  Hell, I didn't even realize it was a racist term when I was a child.  A word is not racist unless you give it racial meaning which is what people are doing.  No one is using it as a sign of disrespect, it's a team name.  I swear people just want to cry over every little thing.
I completely agree with you. I didn't know it was a racial term until recently. In my mind, it was a sign of respect and pride towards American Indians.
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Posted: 8/20/2014 1:06 PM

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I sorta agree with Ditka..

                                

If they really are serious about this then they should go after everyone not just Washington IMOnoideaEvery team or company that has Redskin or an Indian as a symbol. If they don't then I think its just basically a run against Washington. And all these announcers saying they won't say Redskin. "Yea right".  Get me a can of Redskin peanuts on the way home,Honeyrolleyes As Ditka put it," how silly do we really want to get'?

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Posted: 8/20/2014 1:13 PM

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It's so crazy to me that anyone would be offended by this.


I think people just want attention more than anything and don't feel offended whatsoever.
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Posted: 8/20/2014 1:16 PM

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Phil Simms, Tony Dungy unlikely to use 'Redskins' during broadcasts



By  Frank Schwab August 18, 2014 10:17 PM Shutdown Corner
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Two notable NFL analysts and former Super Bowl champions say they're planning to a stand against the Washington Redskins' nickname by refusing to say it on the air.

The controversy surrounding the nickname has taken on all forms, and for CBS lead analyst Phil Simms and NBC studio analyst Tony Dungy, their protest will be to avoid saying it. Simms and CBS will broadcast the Giants-Redskins game on Sept. 25.

"My very first thought is it will be Washington the whole game,'' Simms told the Associated Press' Barry Wilner.

Dungy told the AP in an email that's his plan this season as well.

''I will personally try not to use Redskins and refer to them as Washington,'' Dungy said. ''Personal opinion for me, not the network.''

Others told the AP they wouldn't get involved in the controversy. Jim Nantz, Simms' partner on CBS' top broadcasting team, said it's ''not my job to take a stance.'' Troy Aikman, Fox's top analyst and former Cowboys quarterback, and CBS studio commentator Boomer Esiason were among those who told the AP that as long as the team's name is the Redskins they'll continue to use it. 

Simms told AP he's not taking a side in the debate about whether the nickname is offensive, but he's just sensitive to the complaints. But the controversy has now forced NFL broadcasters to pick sides, simply by questioning whether they'll use the name on air or not

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Posted: 8/20/2014 1:21 PM

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I'm against using the law to force a name change, that has some serious implications on free speech. And since the term Redskins, offensive or not, isn't being used to incite violence against Native Americans and their supporters... I can't say its "hate speech" either.

But we live in some context of a free market society and free speech is for everyone, not just people we agree with. So if people want to exercise their rights to try to pressure Washington into a name change, I don't see anything wrong with that.

The marketplace of ideas will decide if there is enough support to garner a name change. So I don't see what the problem is when people try to put pressure on using their public position. We have people using their public positions to push whatever agendas they want to push. It's part of free speech.

On a side note: "Liberals," really Ditka?
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Posted: 8/20/2014 1:30 PM

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i'm not offended by the name but then again i'm not native american. i think you have to look at this from other peoples perspective. there is no doubt that redskin was meant as a derogitory term even though it may not be used today as it once was.
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Posted: 8/20/2014 1:35 PM

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Crazy, didn't think he is 74. Doesn't look the part, maybe due to makeup? 

Yea, not a conservative vs liberal debate. 


CowboysRule wrote: As I've stated before, they should not change their name.  Say the term "Redskins" to people today and most people are going to think of the football team, not a racial slur.  Hell, I didn't even realize it was a racist term when I was a child.  A word is not racist unless you give it racial meaning which is what people are doing.  No one is using it as a sign of disrespect, it's a team name.  I swear people just want to cry over every little thing.


I agree with this and with what zeroblitz wrote.
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Posted: 8/20/2014 1:39 PM

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Ha!  Mad props to Iron Mike -- one of the last true hardcore football old timers.  Sadly, they're a dying breed... cherish the likes of Ditka, Madden, etc., 'cause they're not gonna be here forever.  Sniff...

Note to PFT: Over-editorialize much?  For chrissakes, you're acting like a stupid sports name -- one that's been around for 70+ years & ain't exactly some new-fangled Tea Party thing, I might add -- is on-par with the most evil injustices to ever befall mankind.  Get over it.  Maybe 10% - 35% of people don't like the name, maybe 90% - 65% do.  Blow it out your pompous, elitist ass already.

Note to Mike Carey: MADDEST PROPS for how he handled it.  Total class, total professionalism: Instead of trying to push his beliefs on the rest of us -- or embarrass his employer -- he took his complaint thru the proper chain of command, made his grievance, and was able to continue working without compromising his convictions one iota.  He didn't call a frickin' press conference, or claim that his beliefs MUST be everyone else's beliefs, or try to harass anyone with stupid lawsuits.  That's a MAN, for you...

...and I gotta be honest, the way he handled it makes ME wanna rethink my position a helluva lot more than the moral yammering of PFT: If a REAL MAN like Mike Carey was offended by the Redskins name, maybe I should examine his point of view more closely.

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Posted: 8/20/2014 1:45 PM

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LOL@ people who agree with Ditka. I guess they skimmed over the article and the conservative voices that agree with the name change. 

Yup, he's a dying breed, and I will be happy when that ignorance dies with them.

Adios.......
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Posted: 8/20/2014 2:04 PM

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MexicanMarauder wrote: LOL@ people who agree with Ditka. I guess they skimmed over the article and the conservative voices that agree with the name change. 

Yup, he's a dying breed, and I will be happy when that ignorance dies with them.

Adios.......

It's not ignorance, MM.  There are reasons NOT to be offended by the "Redskins" name other than ignorance, and it's pretty sh-tty of you not to acknowledge that.  Ditka probably has more first-hand info, anecdotes & historical background on the Redskins franchise than YOU do.  So if anyone is ignorant... is it some shlub blogger for PFT, you, or a Hall of Fame player & coach & announcer who worked / competed / battled with the Redskins for 50 years?  Kinda presumptuous, no?

This isn't an issue where one group is wholesome & enlightened, and the other is evil & ignorant.  This isn't slavery or the Holocaust.  Hell, it's ain't even Ferguson.  It's an issue of where to draw the line for what society accepts in popular sports culture.  But if it makes ya feel better to consider everyone who disagrees with you to be "ignorant"... then I guess most of the American population -- as well as most of the Native American population -- is ignorant... which is actually a RACIST thing to say.  Shame on you!

Native Americans are NOT ignorant.  (Now go apologize.)

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Posted: 8/20/2014 2:08 PM

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MexicanMarauder wrote: LOL@ people who agree with Ditka. I guess they skimmed over the article and the conservative voices that agree with the name change. 

Yup, he's a dying breed, and I will be happy when that ignorance dies with them.

Adios.......
There's nothing ignorant about it.  As I said before, a word only becomes racist if you use it in a hateful way.  If I start calling a group of people "Cowboys" you would think nothing of it.  Maybe I am doing it in a discriminatory fashion.  Now let's say that catches on and more people start doing it.  Should the Cowboys then change their name even though their is nothing racist implied by it?  Redskins is not being used in a racist way. It's the name of a freaking football team.  It is not being used to disrespect any one or group of people.  They're a terrible team don't get me wrong, but that's not the point.

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Posted: 8/20/2014 2:11 PM

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Ditka hasn't said anything that makes sense since 1987.

But, they throw make up on him and let him nap on the set since the name Ditka brings ratings.
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Posted: 8/20/2014 2:15 PM

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AndrewDiceClay wrote:
MexicanMarauder wrote: LOL@ people who agree with Ditka. I guess they skimmed over the article and the conservative voices that agree with the name change. 

Yup, he's a dying breed, and I will be happy when that ignorance dies with them.

Adios.......

It's not ignorance, MM.  There are reasons NOT to be offended by the "Redskins" name other than ignorance, and it's pretty sh-tty of you not to acknowledge that.  Ditka probably has more first-hand info, anecdotes & historical background on the Redskins franchise than YOU do.  So if anyone is ignorant... is it some shlub blogger for PFT, you, or a Hall of Fame player & coach & announcer who worked / competed / battled with the Redskins for 50 years?  Kinda presumptuous, no?

This isn't an issue where one group is wholesome & enlightened, and the other is evil & ignorant.  This isn't slavery or the Holocaust.  Hell, it's ain't even Ferguson.  It's an issue of where to draw the line for what society accepts in popular sports culture.  But if it makes ya feel better to consider everyone who disagrees with you to be "ignorant"... then I guess most of the American population -- as well as most of the Native American population -- is ignorant... which is actually a RACIST thing to say.  Shame on you!

Native Americans are NOT ignorant.  (Now go apologize.)
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Posted: 8/20/2014 2:19 PM

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What a lot of the people that are agreeing with him and point out that they don't find it offensive don't understand is . There is a segment of the population that does find it offensive. They probably have for a long time but have gone unheard for a long time. At first I thought it was a silly idea to change it. But after taking in each sides perspective I can say id like to see it changed. Keep in mind folks. The terms colored, negro,we're perfectly acceptable terms back in the day when Redskin was considered acceptable. You certainly wouldn't use either of those to name a team. I'd be willing to bet that 99% of the people weighing in against changing it are not of Native American decent.
The folks that this supposed to be a term of reverence for don't consider it as one. Therefore. It is not a term of reverence. Change it to something everyone can be proud of.

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Posted: 8/20/2014 2:19 PM

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AndrewDiceClay wrote:
MexicanMarauder wrote: LOL@ people who agree with Ditka. I guess they skimmed over the article and the conservative voices that agree with the name change. 

Yup, he's a dying breed, and I will be happy when that ignorance dies with them.

Adios.......

It's not ignorance, MM.  There are reasons NOT to be offended by the "Redskins" name other than ignorance, and it's pretty sh-tty of you not to acknowledge that.  Ditka probably has more first-hand info, anecdotes & historical background on the Redskins franchise than YOU do.  So if anyone is ignorant... is it some shlub blogger for PFT, you, or a Hall of Fame player & coach & announcer who worked / competed / battled with the Redskins for 50 years?  Kinda presumptuous, no?

This isn't an issue where one group is wholesome & enlightened, and the other is evil & ignorant.  This isn't slavery or the Holocaust.  Hell, it's ain't even Ferguson.  It's an issue of where to draw the line for what society accepts in popular sports culture.  But if it makes ya feel better to consider everyone who disagrees with you to be "ignorant"... then I guess most of the American population -- as well as most of the Native American population -- is ignorant... which is actually a RACIST thing to say.  Shame on you!

Native Americans are NOT ignorant.  (Now go apologize.)
LOL...

MM and other democrats have adopted a stances that they can never defend so the just accuse the other side of ignorance. Never make a point, just hit and run.

Unless it's Obama, then it's just racism.

This little routine is going come home to roost in November.
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Posted: 8/20/2014 2:36 PM

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5CountEm5 wrote:
AndrewDiceClay wrote:
MexicanMarauder wrote: LOL@ people who agree with Ditka. I guess they skimmed over the article and the conservative voices that agree with the name change. 

Yup, he's a dying breed, and I will be happy when that ignorance dies with them.

Adios.......

It's not ignorance, MM.  There are reasons NOT to be offended by the "Redskins" name other than ignorance, and it's pretty sh-tty of you not to acknowledge that.  Ditka probably has more first-hand info, anecdotes & historical background on the Redskins franchise than YOU do.  So if anyone is ignorant... is it some shlub blogger for PFT, you, or a Hall of Fame player & coach & announcer who worked / competed / battled with the Redskins for 50 years?  Kinda presumptuous, no?

This isn't an issue where one group is wholesome & enlightened, and the other is evil & ignorant.  This isn't slavery or the Holocaust.  Hell, it's ain't even Ferguson.  It's an issue of where to draw the line for what society accepts in popular sports culture.  But if it makes ya feel better to consider everyone who disagrees with you to be "ignorant"... then I guess most of the American population -- as well as most of the Native American population -- is ignorant... which is actually a RACIST thing to say.  Shame on you!

Native Americans are NOT ignorant.  (Now go apologize.)
LOL...

MM and other democrats have adopted a stances that they can never defend so the just accuse the other side of ignorance. Never make a point, just hit and run.

Unless it's Obama, then it's just racism.

This little routine is going come home to roost in November.
Racist is another rallying cry you hear a LOT from that side of the fence...no matter how unfounded it is.



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Posted: 8/20/2014 2:37 PM

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Say it louder MIKE!!!!You should have ran against the community organizer fake.  Mike you would had to fight the skirts in the press and all those bleeding heart do gooders....climate change nuts and the ones that want to redistribute money. for the lazy one's... That would have been a tough fight Mike but I think you would have won
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Posted: 8/20/2014 2:40 PM

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AndrewDiceClay wrote:
MexicanMarauder wrote: LOL@ people who agree with Ditka. I guess they skimmed over the article and the conservative voices that agree with the name change. 

Yup, he's a dying breed, and I will be happy when that ignorance dies with them.

Adios.......

It's not ignorance, MM.  There are reasons NOT to be offended by the "Redskins" name other than ignorance, and it's pretty sh-tty of you not to acknowledge that.  Ditka probably has more first-hand info, anecdotes & historical background on the Redskins franchise than YOU do.  So if anyone is ignorant... is it some shlub blogger for PFT, you, or a Hall of Fame player & coach & announcer who worked / competed / battled with the Redskins for 50 years?  Kinda presumptuous, no?

This isn't an issue where one group is wholesome & enlightened, and the other is evil & ignorant.  This isn't slavery or the Holocaust.  Hell, it's ain't even Ferguson.  It's an issue of where to draw the line for what society accepts in popular sports culture.  But if it makes ya feel better to consider everyone who disagrees with you to be "ignorant"... then I guess most of the American population -- as well as most of the Native American population -- is ignorant... which is actually a RACIST thing to say.  Shame on you!

Native Americans are NOT ignorant.  (Now go apologize.)
It is ignorant for people who are NOT Native American to be telling Native Americans what they should or should not be offended by.

It's ignorant for some blow hard old man to be speaking for the entire conservative population when clearly there are staunch conservatives that clearly disagree with his opinion. 

It's ignorant for someone to suggest that because Mike Ditka is older than me, or has a SB ring, or is successful in the NFL that somehow his opinion matters more than mine. 

I never once compared this to the Holocaust, slavery or Ferguson. It's amazing how the IGNORANCE in this country is that every time a discussion like this happens, Hitler is immediately brought up. Funny thing is, most American today don't even know history past 1999 let alone Nazi Germany. 

If a Native American group tells me that it's an offensive term, then guess what, it's offensive. I'm not going to sit there in my arrogance and say that it's some liberal ideology that is blowing this out of proportion. I'm simply going to respect others wishes and stop using the name.

If it's not offensive to you, Mr. Ditka, or 5Countem5, doesn't mean it's not offensive to someone else. It's not about being PC, it's about having respect.
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Posted: 8/20/2014 2:43 PM

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5CountEm5 wrote:
 
LOL...

MM and other democrats have adopted a stances that they can never defend so the just accuse the other side of ignorance. Never make a point, just hit and run.

Unless it's Obama, then it's just racism.

This little routine is going come home to roost in November.
Oh stop 5Countem5 just stop. I get racist PM's all the time and not once do I go and report anyone. You just can't help yourself can you? It's liberal vs conservative, it's you and everyone else. You are with me or against me....

You wonder why we are so divided as a country. I happen to agree with it being offensive, because Native Americans say so. BTW so do many conservatives including McCain who served in war for this country and was a POW but hey, wtf does he know about being American and being conservative right?

For effin sake.....
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Posted: 8/20/2014 2:43 PM

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MexicanMarauder wrote:
5CountEm5 wrote:
 
LOL...

MM and other democrats have adopted a stances that they can never defend so the just accuse the other side of ignorance. Never make a point, just hit and run.

Unless it's Obama, then it's just racism.

This little routine is going come home to roost in November.
Oh stop 5Countem5 just stop. I get racist PM's all the time and not once do I go and report anyone. You just can't help yourself can you? It's liberal vs conservative, it's you and everyone else. You are with me or against me....

You wonder why we are so divided as a country. I happen to agree with it being offensive, because Native Americans say so. BTW so do many conservatives including McCain who served in war for this country and was a POW but hey, wtf does he know about being American and being conservative right?

For effin sake.....
Sucks that you get racist PMs. That's ridiculous behavior.



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Posted: 8/20/2014 2:46 PM

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rhinozs74 wrote:
MexicanMarauder wrote:
5CountEm5 wrote:
 
LOL...

MM and other democrats have adopted a stances that they can never defend so the just accuse the other side of ignorance. Never make a point, just hit and run.

Unless it's Obama, then it's just racism.

This little routine is going come home to roost in November.
Oh stop 5Countem5 just stop. I get racist PM's all the time and not once do I go and report anyone. You just can't help yourself can you? It's liberal vs conservative, it's you and everyone else. You are with me or against me....

You wonder why we are so divided as a country. I happen to agree with it being offensive, because Native Americans say so. BTW so do many conservatives including McCain who served in war for this country and was a POW but hey, wtf does he know about being American and being conservative right?

For effin sake.....
Sucks that you get racist PMs. That's ridiculous behavior.
I don't give a sh1t though Rhinoz. Because cowards hide behind computer screens. They would never say anything to my face because they wouldn't have the guts and would know better. 

My point is that 5Countem5 is always bringing up this "us vs them" mentality and it's not like that. I can be an American and disagree with what this country does, or some name that a group of people find offensive without it being "Liberal nonsense" all the damn time.

Man some people here need to grow up.
"Faith is not wanting to know what is true" - Friedrich Nietzsche

Posted: 8/20/2014 2:50 PM

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How is McCain conservative? He wants 30 million illegals here...and many more items that are not conservative.....he is no conservative...RINO.
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Posted: 8/20/2014 2:54 PM

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steve3 wrote: How is McCain conservative? He wants 30 million illegals here...and many more items that are not conservative.....he is no conservative...RINO.
No he doesn't and that's a severe misrepresentation of his immigration position. Step away from Foxnews and stop watching Hannity. 

I guess the only way to be conservative in today's America, is to be to the right of Mussolini. Your grandad's republicans wouldn't even recognize the party today, what a shame.
"Faith is not wanting to know what is true" - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Posted: 8/20/2014 2:57 PM

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such ignorance.

Posted: 8/20/2014 3:07 PM

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I'm not at fox news...Is that your best shot I'm at Fox news...I know it's hard for the climate nuts to think pass that station but I look at a lot of different areas. McCain should retire yesterday. I want a debate not a set up by the liberals who control most station and 95% of the skirts in the press including the Hollywood idiots.and you are complaining about Fox
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Posted: 8/20/2014 3:14 PM

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steve3 wrote: I'm not at fox news...Is that your best shot I'm at Fox news...I know it's hard for the climate nuts to think pass that station but I look at a lot of different areas. McCain should retire yesterday. I want a debate not a set up by the liberals who control most station and 95% of the skirts in the press including the Hollywood idiots.and you are complaining about Fox
You don't believe in climate change and you want a debate? LOL oh man, this is priceless. Go away, grown ups are talking.
"Faith is not wanting to know what is true" - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Posted: 8/20/2014 3:17 PM

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steve is in the leader in the club house for most ignorant poster......but, have no fear.....there are a few more still out on the course.....it isn't over yet.

MexicanMarauder wrote:
steve3 wrote: I'm not at fox news...Is that your best shot I'm at Fox news...I know it's hard for the climate nuts to think pass that station but I look at a lot of different areas. McCain should retire yesterday. I want a debate not a set up by the liberals who control most station and 95% of the skirts in the press including the Hollywood idiots.and you are complaining about Fox
You don't believe in climate change and you want a debate? LOL oh man, this is priceless. Go away, grown ups are talking.
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