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How's that Romo contract look now? Dalton 6 yr / $115M

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Posted: 8/4/2014 9:15 AM

How's that Romo contract look now? Dalton 6 yr / $115M 


Devil will be in the details in terms of the guaranteed money, etc......But, really?

Cincinnati and Bengals QB Andy Dalton reached agreement on a 6-year, $115 million contract, per two sources.
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Posted: 8/4/2014 9:22 AM

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#redheadedgingerswag devil
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Posted: 8/4/2014 9:27 AM

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Uhh wow. 

Andy Dalton making that much?
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Posted: 8/4/2014 9:27 AM

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Posted: 8/4/2014 9:31 AM

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Dalton what a spare.
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Posted: 8/4/2014 10:32 AM

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Shefter re-tweeted this photoshop......funny.


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Posted: 8/4/2014 2:58 PM

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I think with the most recent CBA, you see a rookie pay structure take money away from the young guys, yet teams still needing to spend.  So it appears most teams feel comfortable giving that to a QB in a bonus to get the cap figure back down, lol.  On a team where the QB is already taken care of, then ateam might pay the star players as needed.  So the stars get paid more in guarenteed money; however, like with Spencer, those guys get guarenteed money but with age are probably more suseptable to injury.  Its interesting to watch the impact of the CBA, its taking years to trickle down.

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Posted: 8/4/2014 3:27 PM

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Without knowing the guaranteed money the "$115 million" means nothing - but even if Dalton is getting $10+ million/year  guaranteed, the team has no real alternative.  Fans want to quit on any QB who isn't a top 5 player, but the odds that will work out are hilariously bad.

Think about it: what's more likely if the Bengals dump Dalton: a) 5-10 years (or more!) of total unwatchable garbage football, or b) quickly finding a mega-talent replacement in 1-2 seasons? 

The truth is they're lucky to have even a Dalton-level talent.  The Cowboys are lucky to have found Romo as soon after Aikman checked out as they did.  The alternative 99% of the time isn't Tom Brady out of nowhere - it's the 1999-2013 Browns.
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Posted: 8/4/2014 3:30 PM

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There's no such thing as a midrange deal for a QB anymore.

You either give him 6 yr/$120 mil or you let him walk. The only thing left to determine quality is the  amount of guaranteed money you tie to him.
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Posted: 8/4/2014 3:36 PM

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They now say it's actually $96 million




Dalton gets $17 million now, $22 million through early March

Posted by Mike Florio on August 4, 2014, 2:14 PM EDT
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No, Bengals quarterback Andy Dalton’s contract isn’t worth $115 million over six years, as others have reported.  The base value, per a source with knowledge of the details, is $96 million over six years.

That doesn’t mean it’s time to have a bake sale for Andy Dalton.  Still, that’s a $19 million gap between initial reports and reality.

The most important numbers are the numbers fully guaranteed at signing.  Dalton receives a signing bonus of $12 million and a roster bonus in three days of $5 million.  That’s a total of $17 million out of the gates.  Coupled with his $986,000 base salary (which isn’t guaranteed as a legal matter but it is as a practical matter), Dalton will make $18 million in the first year of the deal.

Then, on the third day of the 2015 league year in March, Dalton earns a $4 million roster bonus.  He also has a $3 million non-guaranteed base salary in 2015.  That’s $25 million over two years.

Dalton passed on the opportunity to load injury-only guarantees into the contract, since the Bengals would have wanted Dalton to buy a disability policy similar to the one that the 49ers had Colin Kaepernick buy as part of his six-year extension.  The policy cost $2 million in pre-tax dollars, and (as we’ll explain in a separate post) creates a bizarre donut hole of protection for the player and the team.

The rest of the base deal is simple.  In addition to annual workout bonuses of $200,000, Dalton has base salaries of $10.5 million in 2016, $13.1 million in 2017, $13.7 million in 2018, $16 million in 2019, and $17.5 million in 2020.

Unlike the Kaepernick deal, which loaded up the base value artificially and then used de-escalators based on playing time and team or personal achievements, Dalton’s deal potentially goes up, not down.

If in any year he participates in 80-percent of the regular-season snaps and the Bengals get to the divisional round of the playoffs (via wild-card win or bye), he gets another $1 million in each additional year of the deal.  If he qualifies at any point for the conference title game (with 80-percent playing time in the regular season), another $500,000 flows into the base value of the deal, for each additional year.  If he wins a Super Bowl he won’t be driving off in a Hyundai; Dalton will get another $1.5 million per year for each remaining year of the deal.

So if the Bengals win the next Super Bowl this year and if Dalton participates in 80 percent of the regular-season snaps in 2014, he’ll get another $18 million over the life of the deal, pushing the new-money average from $16 million per year to $19 million.  Getting to the divisional round this year pushes the new-money average to $17 million.

The contract nevertheless remains, like Kaepernick’s, mostly a year-to-year proposition, with Dalton being guaranteed as a practical matter two years and $25 million.  That’s a lot more than he would have made over the next two seasons if he’d played out his rookie deal and then been slapped with the franchise tag.  Beyond 2015, however, it’s a one-year-at-a-time existence no different than Kaepernick’s.

For most NFL players, that’s how it now works.  And if teams are going to insist on disability policies payable to the franchise in the event of a serious injury, the franchise quarterback is better off forgetting about injury-only guarantees, buying the policy, and making it payable to himself.

The contract shows that the Kaepernick structure is taking root.  That won’t change until a franchise quarterback hits the market, a franchise quarterback signs a deal in lieu of going year-to-year under the franchise tag, or the Seahawks opt to give Russell Wilson a more favorable structure if only to highlight that Seattle treats its core players more fairly than the 49ers do

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Posted: 8/4/2014 7:03 PM

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Said it before. I'll say it again. Romo be underpaid. Best bang for the buck on this crappy team.

If Romo could throw a football like I hit a golf ball we would never lose.

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Posted: 8/4/2014 7:26 PM

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Cincy didn't get the word that Orton is available.tongue
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Posted: 8/4/2014 7:31 PM

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Paging 2tall. He's been having a fit over Romo's contract.
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Posted: 8/4/2014 8:12 PM

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MyFairLady wrote: Said it before. I'll say it again. Romo be underpaid. Best bang for the buck on this crappy team.
Romo isn't even a top 5 player on the cowboys offense.
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Posted: 8/4/2014 8:48 PM

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THElk8701 wrote:
MyFairLady wrote: Said it before. I'll say it again. Romo be underpaid. Best bang for the buck on this crappy team.
Romo isn't even a top 5 player on the cowboys offense.
C'mon get real.



But as far as Dalton:  Any half-decent QB will be making that now when his contract comes up so hard to say it out of whack when it is the going rate.
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Posted: 8/4/2014 9:24 PM

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THElk8701 wrote:
MyFairLady wrote: Said it before. I'll say it again. Romo be underpaid. Best bang for the buck on this crappy team.
Romo isn't even a top 5 player on the cowboys offense.
Who are the top 5? Or top 10? Or whoever you rank over Romo. Please give the stats and sources...not your own half a$$ed opinion.
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Posted: 8/4/2014 10:07 PM

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SteveTheCowboy wrote:
THElk8701 wrote:
MyFairLady wrote: Said it before. I'll say it again. Romo be underpaid. Best bang for the buck on this crappy team.
Romo isn't even a top 5 player on the cowboys offense.
Who are the top 5? Or top 10? Or whoever you rank over Romo. Please give the stats and sources...not your own half a$$ed opinion.
I don't know how you can compare stats for players playing different positions. Here are my projected rankings:

1. Dez
2. Tyron Smith
3. Zack Martin
4. Travis Frederick
5. Jason Witten
6. Demarco Murray
7. Romo
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Posted: 8/5/2014 5:33 AM

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Going rate for QBs.  That's why a number of us fans didn't overreact when we resigned Romo.  By comparison, Romo's deal was 6 years, $108M with $55M guaranteed and $82.5M base.  The key to both the Dalton and Kaepernick deals is that they allow the teams to cut bait easier without the massive cap hit if necessary - both deals appear to be pretty creative in that way.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:25 AM

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lk8701 wrote:
SteveTheCowboy wrote:
THElk8701 wrote:
MyFairLady wrote: Said it before. I'll say it again. Romo be underpaid. Best bang for the buck on this crappy team.
Romo isn't even a top 5 player on the cowboys offense.
Who are the top 5? Or top 10? Or whoever you rank over Romo. Please give the stats and sources...not your own half a$$ed opinion.
I don't know how you can compare stats for players playing different positions. Here are my projected rankings:

1. Dez
2. Tyron Smith
3. Zack Martin
4. Travis Frederick
5. Jason Witten
6. Demarco Murray
7. Romo
There is clueless. Then there is YOU.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 8:09 AM

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Actually the Dalton contract is better as they said on NFL network the Bengals can walk away after 2 years w/o owing Dalton anymore money.
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