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Stephen A Smith - Woman's responsibility to avoid being beaten.

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Posted: 7/25/2014 3:02 PM

Stephen A Smith - Woman's responsibility to avoid being beaten. 


WTF - I don't watch BSPN anymore for anything other than live sports.....but, this guy needs to be fired by the 4 letter network.

Video can be found by pasting the link:

http://deadspin.com/first-take..._source=deadspi n_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow



First Take  Discusses A Woman's Responsibility To Avoid Being Beaten

First Take panelists Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless continued to discuss the Ray Rice suspension on this morning's episode, and Smith seized on the opportunity to say some deeply stupid things about the responsibility women have to not provoke men into violently attacking them.

This is just a train wreck, and Stephen A. doesn't seem to realize just how dumb his monologue is until it's way too late. His central point here, to which he keeps returning after throwing out caveats about how domestic violence is not OK, is that if you are a woman who doesn't want to be beaten by men, you should make sure to do your part by not giving them a reason to do so.

"We also have to make sure that we learn as much as we can," Smith says, "about elements of provocation."

Consider this the culmination of much of the media's embarrassing and tone-deaf handling handling of the Ray Rice situation. It can't get any dumber than this, right?

NFL Network On Ray Rice Suspension: "The Iron Fist Of The NFL" Nearly every sane sports fan is offended by the leniency of Ray Rice's two-game NFL suspension … Read more

Here's a full transcript of Smith's rambling:

It's not about him, then. It's about you, and here's what I mean by that. We keep talking about the guys. We know you have no business putting your hands on a woman. I don't know how many times I got to reiterate that. But as a man who was raised by women, see I know what I'm going to do if somebody touches a female member of my family. I know what I'm going to do, I know what my boys are going to do. I know what, I'm going to have to remind myself that I work for the Worldwide Leader, I'm going to have to get law enforcement officials involved because of what I'm going to be tempted to do. But what I've tried to employ the female members of my family, some of who you all met and talked to and what have you, is that again, and this what, I've done this all my life, let's make sure we don't do anything to provoke wrong actions, because if I come, or somebody else come, whether it's law enforcement officials, your brother or the fellas that you know, if we come after somebody has put their hands on you, it doesn't negate the fact that they already put their hands on you. So let's try to make sure that we can do our part in making sure that that doesn't happen. Now you got some dudes that are just horrible and they're going to do it anyway, and there's never an excuse to put your hands on a woman. But domestic violence or whatever the case may be, with men putting their hands on women, is obviously a very real, real issue in our society. And I think that just talking about what guys shouldn't do, we got to also make sure that you can do your part to do whatever you can do to make, to try to make sure it doesn't happen. We know they're wrong. We know they're criminals. We know they probably deserve to be in jail. In Ray Rice's case, he probably deserves more than a 2-game suspension which we both acknowledged. But at the same time, we also have to make sure that we learn as much as we can about elements of provocation. Not that there's real provocation, but the elements of provocation, you got to make sure that you address them, because we've got to do is do what we can to try to prevent the situation from happening in any way. And I don't think that's broached enough, is all I'm saying. No point of blame.

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Posted: 7/25/2014 3:05 PM

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So I was just forced to watch this morning's First Take. A) I'll never feel clean again B) I'm now aware that I can provoke my own beating.


WOW - she nailed it.

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Posted: 7/25/2014 3:18 PM

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Some women like to be beat sorta like a badge of honor. I remember when I was playing high school football while waiting at the bus stop after practice with some other team mates this hooker came skipping down the street singing something that we couldn't hear. As she got closer we heard what she was singing," my pimp beat my arse-my pimp beat my arse'! he loves me....... Needless to say we all looked on in amazement and just shook our heads. By the way our star quarterback-NO! Not Tony Romowink Asked one hooker how much for the whole team and she said," honey you don't have that kind of money" When I see the guys who were there that night we still joke and laugh about that one.

But getting back to Stephen Smith in some cases women do like and love and choose guys like the ones who beat them or treat them bad. Guess its mental or something but women especailly the younger ones seem to love the bad guys and despise the nice guysnoideaNice guys usually do finish last with women. I never hit a woman and never will but you have to play the middle ground with most women. You too nice! You're gonna get burnt.

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Posted: 7/25/2014 3:22 PM

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WareD94 wrote:  I remember when I was playing high school football while waiting at the bus stop after practice with some other team mates this hooker came skipping down the street singing something that we couldn't hear. As she got closer we heard what she was singing," my pimp beat my arse-my pimp beat my arse'! he loves me..
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The visual on this is just so damn funny Dooms!
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Posted: 7/25/2014 3:34 PM

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phenyx2 wrote:
WareD94 wrote:  I remember when I was playing high school football while waiting at the bus stop after practice with some other team mates this hooker came skipping down the street singing something that we couldn't hear. As she got closer we heard what she was singing," my pimp beat my arse-my pimp beat my arse'! he loves me..
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The visual on this is just so damn funny Dooms!
It was,Phenybiggrin I still crack up every time I think about it. She was actually skipping down the side walk like a kid. But she had to be in her mid 20s.We also got to sneak into a nearby bar and watch the go-go dancers. They'd leave the bar doors opened in the back to let in air I suppose. Nobody would be there so about 6 or 7 of us would go in there and watch the girls in bikini dancing on tables! Until one night this one idiot team mate pushed me hard and I went flying head first over a table. Looking up all I saw was the ladies lower front bush just twisting away just above me. Fire red top bikini it was with no bottomtongue I'll NEVER forget that frontal view while laying down looking up as a young teen-NEVERtongue Anyways the bouncer came and laughed while throwing us out for good and locking the doors! Man!banghead we were so mad at that guy we could of killed him. Man! he killed a good door way with a view. The ladies saw us at times tho and never said a wordbiggrin Ahhhhhh....Youth!

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Posted: 7/25/2014 3:35 PM

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well, i guess context does matter too.

contrast - "spank my a$$" in the sheets versus "punch me in the face with your fist because I was talking to the bartender at the club".
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Posted: 7/25/2014 3:39 PM

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IDK women like to get physical too sometimes..I know there's less of a chance a woman can knock a dude out..But no one was outraged with what Solange did to Jay-Z on the elevator..I don't think either side to react in physical violence when they are pissed at something somebody said or whatever...
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Posted: 7/25/2014 3:45 PM

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I think Steven A is a class A douche....but I understand his intent I believe.

  My sister (she never made it out of the trailer park) is a prime example.  She has dated bad boy type over and over...she has always been an attractive woman and she knows it.  She uses it in fights with her boyfriends. 

  I'll be open and honest- my sister is a classless B*&^h.  She loves to do stuff to provoke jealousy in these guys.  She has daddy issues.  SERIOUS DADDY ISSUES.  She says our father didn't pay attention to her.  I tell her it was because:
A) You were not an athlete - that was me
B) You were not industrious or hard working / dependable - that was our brother
C) You took mom's side in EVERY argument against dad even when you knew SHE was the one cheating......but that was ok with you because she took you shopping a lot and you shared clothes (AKA stripper outfits.)

   Now you wonder why dad never had much to say to you?

   Anyway- my sister picks these fights with biker /tattoo boyfriends and does stuff like get in their face, insult their male parts and talk about how she wants to **&^ the guys friends...or already had.  She will then escalate it to destroying some thing guy owns...pushing over his motorcycle, keying his car....some classless move like that.

    And yea- she's had her a$$ beat a few times and the dude went to jail.  If I was on the jury- I would not have convicted.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 3:46 PM

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WareD94 wrote: Some women like to be beat sorta like a badge of honor. I remember when I was playing high school football while waiting at the bus stop after practice with some other team mates this hooker came skipping down the street singing something that we couldn't hear. As she got closer we heard what she was singing," my pimp beat my arse-my pimp beat my arse'! he loves me....... Needless to say we all looked on in amazement and just shook our heads. By the way our star quarterback-NO! Not Tony Romowink Asked one hooker how much for the whole team and she said," honey you don't have that kind of money" When I see the guys who were there that night we still joke and laugh about that one.

But getting back to Stephen Smith in some cases women do like and love and choose guys like the ones who beat them or treat them bad. Guess its mental or something but women especailly the younger ones seem to love the bad guys and despise the nice guysnoideaNice guys usually do finish last with women. I never hit a woman and never will but you have to play the middle ground with most women. You too nice! You're gonna get burnt.

That might be the most bizarre story you've ever told.

And battered woman syndrome is pretty well-documented, just like you see children who are abused often themselves continue abusive cycles.

Nice guys don't finish last, I'm a nice guy, I've never finished last. That myth is propagated by alpha male wannabes. I know those sorts, they don't end up so well. Girls who like bad boys also don't necessarily like guys who beat women, those two things don't go hand in hand.

My best friend went through a very abusive relationship, the guy who did it was by no standard of appearances a "bad boy." He was a nice guy who beat women.
"...you shall find that it is only that which has given you sorrow that is giving you joy."
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Posted: 7/25/2014 3:47 PM

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2tallJones wrote: IDK women like to get physical too sometimes..I know there's less of a chance a woman can knock a dude out..But no one was outraged with what Solange did to Jay-Z on the elevator..I don't think either side to react in physical violence when they are pissed at something somebody said or whatever...
This is true. Women can be as violent as men.

Both sides need to resist violence.
"...you shall find that it is only that which has given you sorrow that is giving you joy."
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Posted: 7/25/2014 3:51 PM

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ZeroBlitz wrote:
WareD94 wrote: Some women like to be beat sorta like a badge of honor. I remember when I was playing high school football while waiting at the bus stop after practice with some other team mates this hooker came skipping down the street singing something that we couldn't hear. As she got closer we heard what she was singing," my pimp beat my arse-my pimp beat my arse'! he loves me....... Needless to say we all looked on in amazement and just shook our heads. By the way our star quarterback-NO! Not Tony Romowink Asked one hooker how much for the whole team and she said," honey you don't have that kind of money" When I see the guys who were there that night we still joke and laugh about that one.

But getting back to Stephen Smith in some cases women do like and love and choose guys like the ones who beat them or treat them bad. Guess its mental or something but women especailly the younger ones seem to love the bad guys and despise the nice guysnoideaNice guys usually do finish last with women. I never hit a woman and never will but you have to play the middle ground with most women. You too nice! You're gonna get burnt.

That might be the most bizarre story you've ever told.

And battered woman syndrome is pretty well-documented, just like you see children who are abused often themselves continue abusive cycles.

Nice guys don't finish last, I'm a nice guy, I've never finished last. That myth is propagated by alpha male wannabes. I know those sorts, they don't end up so well. Girls who like bad boys also don't necessarily like guys who beat women, those two things don't go hand in hand.

My best friend went through a very abusive relationship, the guy who did it was by no standard of appearances a "bad boy." He was a nice guy who beat women.
I never said they liked guys that beat them. I said most girls especially younger ones usual like the so called bad boys. As in most or some your girl may of been the exception. And how can you be a NICE guy who beat women? Now that is extremely bizarreeek

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Posted: 7/25/2014 3:55 PM

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this thread is going to be right in there with the Doomsy/Sam thread




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Posted: 7/25/2014 4:00 PM

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Telling a woman she should avoid provoking a beating is like telling that family of four who got creamed by a drunk driver that they should have stayed off the road.  Total bullscat!
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Posted: 7/25/2014 4:02 PM

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Jesu Christo Demontu. The "elements of provocation? the elements"? That is why there is a strong trend of girls who are completely fed up and go into ultra-extremist feminism, because of guys like Stephen A.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted: 7/25/2014 4:17 PM

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Several of you guys need to seriously think about deleting your posts...wow.eek
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Posted: 7/25/2014 4:18 PM

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Women do provoke sometimes, I saw a woman yelling curse words at her boyfriend and she was standing in his face close enough to kiss him, every time he moved she'd move to block him, then she slap the shyt out of a guy on the subway, he grabbed her and threw her out of the way them when the security showed up, guess who they were taking away.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 4:24 PM

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IO think he made it clear that he did not condone men beating women, what's the hubbub?
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Posted: 7/25/2014 4:32 PM

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Cowboys fans that wear their team's colors to an away game, say nothing, and sit there keeping to themselves deserve to get the crap kicked out of them.

They totally provoked it and are at fault.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 4:48 PM

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LOL. Some dudes in this thread might get IP banned. Delete immediately fellas before you get caught.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 4:48 PM

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kjcmeb wrote: Cowboys fans that wear their team's colors to an away game, say nothing, and sit there keeping to themselves deserve to get the crap kicked out of them.

They totally provoked it and are at fault.
That is a great comparison. No one on here would tell a fan not to wear their jersey to an away game or say that they brought it on themselves. Yet when it comes to domestic violence or rape the culture of placing blame or even responsibility on the victim persists. 

Implying that women can do things to avoid this is implying that they're responsible for the actions of vile pieces of ****.

"Elements of Provocation" is just an eloquent way of saying "What did you say to **** him off?" "You know when daddy gets home the house has to be quiet so lets not do anything to provoke him". Seriously what is this 1955?

He can spin it any way he wants but what he is essentially saying is women need to learn how not to provoke their man.
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