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Positives I see on defense

Posted: 6/9/2014 4:41 PM

Positives I see on defense 


The fact that Mo said the other day that RM will employ more man is a good sign as he and Carr are not zone cbs. RM over Kiffen is huge since Kiffen hasnt been good for yrs and cannot adjust. Depth along the dline. 2nd yr in the 4-3 after the switch from 3-4. Carter finally getting comfortable. Lets face it, outside of Hatcher we had nothing on D last yr.  We need to stay healthy. Melton has proven if he is healthy he is better than Hatcher. He is a pro bowler. Hatcher was nothing til last yr. Crawford is better than any other dlinemen we had last yr. I cant see us being a top 10 defense but I dont think we are in the bottom 10 this yr either. If we finish with the 20th ranked defense and with our potent offense, we will win the division. Im expecting a 10-6 season
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Posted: 6/9/2014 5:13 PM

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Positives:  going to be really difficult to be worse

But this league is different year to year, so I wouldn't be shocked if a couple of players surprise and the D is better (middle of the pack).
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Posted: 6/9/2014 5:20 PM

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Well, Marinelli is coaching. We signed Melton. Probably aren't any more positives until we see if some of these guys have improved their games.
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Posted: 6/9/2014 7:13 PM

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I agree with the it can't get much worse comment
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Posted: 6/9/2014 8:45 PM

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I would still like to see a veteran linebacker added to the mix. Vilma, Urlacher etc. We'll see.
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Posted: 6/10/2014 8:13 AM

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It could stay the same just saying. Now will it I hope not. So if it stays the same it might as well be worse as that means there are way more problems with the defense then the dline.
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Posted: 6/10/2014 4:08 PM

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robkar wrote: The fact that Mo said the other day that RM will employ more man is a good sign as he and Carr are not zone cbs. RM over Kiffen is huge since Kiffen hasnt been good for yrs and cannot adjust. Depth along the dline. 2nd yr in the 4-3 after the switch from 3-4. Carter finally getting comfortable. Lets face it, outside of Hatcher we had nothing on D last yr.  We need to stay healthy. Melton has proven if he is healthy he is better than Hatcher. He is a pro bowler. Hatcher was nothing til last yr. Crawford is better than any other dlinemen we had last yr. I cant see us being a top 10 defense but I dont think we are in the bottom 10 this yr either. If we finish with the 20th ranked defense and with our potent offense, we will win the division. Im expecting a 10-6 season
I could have sworn Kiffin was sayin' the same thing ( more man) last summer.
we will have to see what becomes of us on the front seven and keep our fingers crossed about the CBs play.
Both carr and Mo' will have to get their confidence back, but it's up to the coaches to put them in the best position where they can rebound and be able to get their confidence back.

We will see the difference between what Marinelli has to offer vs Kiffin. we already know he can work a DL rotation and get them motivated but as a DC, he won't have as many playmakers here in this unit as he did in Chi-town.

And the best playmaker we had for this year, went down for the season. At least Rob Ryan had Ware, Lee and Hatcher to work with. But we will have to see and hope there's a handful less- heralded players that really emerge as big surprises and step to the front ( Holloman? Hitchens ?. Wilber ?.. Mincy?.. McClain ?)  those recovering from big injuries ( see Melton, crawford, spencer)  and particularly  those who have underachieved, but hopefully emerge big time ( see Claiborne, Carter)

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Posted: 6/10/2014 7:01 PM

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One positive, is that I do really believe one of the safety positions has to get better. Wilcox or Heath have to get better simply out of experience. How much better remains to be seen.

Crawford will be healthy and better than the players who replaced him last year.

I also am excited for Demarcus Lawrence. I'm not saying he will be an instant all pro, but I do think he will end up being a pretty solid pass rusher. Even in his rookie season.

There are several reasons to have hope for an improved defense. If things play out well, it will definitely be better than the train wreck from last year.
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Posted: 6/10/2014 7:55 PM

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We are gonna get lit up like a blunt at Snoop Dogs. We will be used by other teams to complete their highlight reels. We are gonna suck. We are the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked.

offense should be pretty dang good though.

If Romo could throw a football like I hit a golf ball we would never lose.

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Posted: 6/11/2014 6:32 AM

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I disagree with getting a vet lber like Vilma or urlacher. Both done to me. DLINE: looks promising with a lot of depth. Man to man coverage agree is key for mo and Carr. Lb: keep the youth movemt going. The team is finally getting young. Now it is up to coaching and on field performance as well as health...excited to see how it plays out. Only one way to go and that is up hahahaha...
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Posted: 6/11/2014 8:36 AM

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yes, I think the D will be improved. Counting on Ware and Lee and not getting them was damaging. I think the corner you gave up so much for might emerge too.
. But that's in an absolute world, improvement has to measured relative the teams in the division. Is Philly going to be better with another year in chips system? Or does the loss of S Jackson impact?. clearly will be better and NY figures to be too.
Last year at this time I figured Wash. As the favorite and Philly most likely to finish last . Our division is always unpredictable.
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Posted: 6/11/2014 8:52 AM

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pacman1988 wrote: I disagree with getting a vet lber like Vilma or urlacher. Both done to me. DLINE: looks promising with a lot of depth. Man to man coverage agree is key for mo and Carr. Lb: keep the youth movemt going. The team is finally getting young. Now it is up to coaching and on field performance as well as health...excited to see how it plays out. Only one way to go and that is up hahahaha...
Those were just examples. Getting a viable vet linebacker could be huge. Doesn't have to be a super star....even average veteran would help greatly.

And it's only to provide some leadership and knowledge. Transition. It sounds like you underestimate that power.

Likely we wont be able to sign any viable vet...but we do need to keep eyes and ears open for the possibility.
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Posted: 6/11/2014 9:50 AM

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Easy to be positive when you haven't played anybody.
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Posted: 6/11/2014 10:14 AM

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robkar wrote: The fact that Mo said the other day that RM will employ more man is a good sign as he and Carr are not zone cbs.

If the defensive line can generate some type of consistent pressure, yeah, I think we'll see more man coverage.



 

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Posted: 6/11/2014 10:35 AM

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It's very easy for lazy journalists and message board posters to see the loss of Ware, Hatcher and Lee and immediately conclude the defense will be horrible.

The reality is that there are a number of positives which could offset those losses:

A more youthful and deeper rotation on the D-line which should equate to more pressure
All the vets are now a year into the scheme and don't have to learn something new from scratch (experience)
A new d co ordinator who seems more 'with it' than the last one, and says he will play to the secondary's strengths (less zone)
Surely we won't have as many injuries again!
7 draft choices were spent on defensive players specifically to play this scheme
3 new FA DL (see point 1)

Look lets get one thing straight, we aren't going to be a top 5 D next year, but I see several steps in the right direction and all this crap aboiut having to score 60 points is gross exaggeration.
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Posted: 6/11/2014 11:28 AM

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If the defense stays relatively healthy they will improve. You can't have a parade of 19 different players on the defensive line in one season and expect it to be successful. Last season proved that. The guys off the street were dropping like flies because they weren't in shape. How could they be? They weren't in any training camp for the most part and to come in on Monday and play on Sunday was an impossible task. Stay healthy and the defense will improve just by the very nature of playing in every game.
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Posted: 6/11/2014 11:57 AM

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watch out for Lawrence he will excel at his position in this scheme. Facing one of the best LT's in the NFL each day at practice will only help. Love the kids frame ... remember DWare was the one who brought along Tyron now Tyron gets to pass all that info on to D-Law. He will be a very pleasant surprise. Like D.R.O.Y. good... that's what i'm expecting.

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Posted: 6/13/2014 3:38 PM

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Lets just hope the injuries stop. It seems like for 2 or 3 yrs now we have been decimated with injuries.
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