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Sorry to see that ND had no place for Mirko Jurkavich Jr.

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Posted: 7/25/2014 6:43 PM

Sorry to see that ND had no place for Mirko Jurkavich Jr. 


He gave a verbal to Nebraska today. He said that ND told him that were filled at his position. OG 6' 5", 275. Well these verbals don't mean much to people like Barnet. Maybe  if there is a place open at the end, they can use Mirko.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 7:27 PM

Re: Sorry to see that ND had no place for Mirko Jurkavich Jr. 


I'm not surprised. Notre Dame is so well stocked at the Offensive Line. It was just bad timing for Mirko.


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Posted: 7/25/2014 8:58 PM

Re: Sorry to see that ND had no place for Mirko Jurkavich Jr. 


Have to give a kid credit who admits that a team turned him down. Not many of these kids do that. They just act like they lost interest in the school.

I hope he does well at Nebraska.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 9:27 PM

Re: Sorry to see that ND had no place for Mirko Jurkavich Jr. 


As much as I would love to see Jr follow in his fathers footsteps at ND, I never thought the staff was ever very high on him.  Even if a person left they would not offer, they could have offered him over a year ago and never came close.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 9:52 PM

Re: Sorry to see that ND had no place for Mirko Jurkavich Jr. 


ND should be well stacked at the OL positions for the 2015 season.
IT appears that counting this incoming class 0f 2014, that ND will have 15 O linemen on their roster.
Only 1 of them will exhaust all eligibility at season's end.
SO, if none of the 14 remaining linemen declare for the draft or transfer out, ND will return at least 4 OL starters (possibly 5,if Lombard is injured for any length of time)for next year & adding the 3 current 2015 commits will have 17 O linemen on the 2015 roster.
So any other O line addition for the 2015 class would have to be very, very highly rated by the staff.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 9:58 AM

Re: Sorry to see that ND had no place for Mirko Jurkavich Jr. 



narmer71 wrote: He gave a verbal to Nebraska today. He said that ND told him that were filled at his position. OG 6' 5", 275. Well these verbals don't mean much to people like Barnet. Maybe  if there is a place open at the end, they can use Mirko.
dumb move by Kelly and Co....

I was all for passing on Mirko until he moved to IMG.  

Now the best QB you're recruiting Francois is his teammate and you pass on a sure fire ND commit.  Mirko could have assisted in the recruiting effort and you can never have too many Olinemen.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 12:26 PM

Re: Sorry to see that ND had no place for Mirko Jurkavich Jr. 


So you think or believe it is a good idea to offer okay players to "try" and reel in a very good one.

That thinking is illogical. BK and the staff have seen nothing that ever made them want to offer him, As it stands ND has a gluttony of offensive linemen, if they take any more they are going to be studs.
SubFANtheTroll wrote:
narmer71 wrote: He gave a verbal to Nebraska today. He said that ND told him that were filled at his position. OG 6' 5", 275. Well these verbals don't mean much to people like Barnet. Maybe  if there is a place open at the end, they can use Mirko.
dumb move by Kelly and Co....

I was all for passing on Mirko until he moved to IMG.  

Now the best QB you're recruiting Francois is his teammate and you pass on a sure fire ND commit.  Mirko could have assisted in the recruiting effort and you can never have too many Olinemen.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 2:17 PM

Re: Sorry to see that ND had no place for Mirko Jurkavich Jr. 


I think you make an exception for a 3 star legacy with offers from OSU, UF, South Carolina, and Nebraska who goes to one of the top High Schools in terms of producing football talent in the nation.  Especially when you whiffed on QB recruiting and his teammate is your highest rated target.

Yeah thats illogical.  I'd rather recruit Mike Golic Jr. then Jordan Prestwood.
CaliIrishFan wrote: So you think or believe it is a good idea to offer okay players to "try" and reel in a very good one.

That thinking is illogical. BK and the staff have seen nothing that ever made them want to offer him, As it stands ND has a gluttony of offensive linemen, if they take any more they are going to be studs.
SubFANtheTroll wrote:
narmer71 wrote: He gave a verbal to Nebraska today. He said that ND told him that were filled at his position. OG 6' 5", 275. Well these verbals don't mean much to people like Barnet. Maybe  if there is a place open at the end, they can use Mirko.
dumb move by Kelly and Co....

I was all for passing on Mirko until he moved to IMG.  

Now the best QB you're recruiting Francois is his teammate and you pass on a sure fire ND commit.  Mirko could have assisted in the recruiting effort and you can never have too many Olinemen.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 3:31 PM

Re: Sorry to see that ND had no place for Mirko Jurkavich Jr. 


Sub actually has a good point. 
SubFANtheTroll wrote: I think you make an exception for a 3 star legacy with offers from OSU, UF, South Carolina, and Nebraska who goes to one of the top High Schools in terms of producing football talent in the nation.  Especially when you whiffed on QB recruiting and his teammate is your highest rated target.

Yeah thats illogical.  I'd rather recruit Mike Golic Jr. then Jordan Prestwood.
CaliIrishFan wrote: So you think or believe it is a good idea to offer okay players to "try" and reel in a very good one.

That thinking is illogical. BK and the staff have seen nothing that ever made them want to offer him, As it stands ND has a gluttony of offensive linemen, if they take any more they are going to be studs.
SubFANtheTroll wrote:
narmer71 wrote: He gave a verbal to Nebraska today. He said that ND told him that were filled at his position. OG 6' 5", 275. Well these verbals don't mean much to people like Barnet. Maybe  if there is a place open at the end, they can use Mirko.
dumb move by Kelly and Co....

I was all for passing on Mirko until he moved to IMG.  

Now the best QB you're recruiting Francois is his teammate and you pass on a sure fire ND commit.  Mirko could have assisted in the recruiting effort and you can never have too many Olinemen.

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Posted: 7/26/2014 5:17 PM

Re: Sorry to see that ND had no place for Mirko Jurkavich Jr. 


Lets also throw in the fact that ND hasn't started the year with 85 scholarship players.
irisheyes wrote: Sub actually has a good point. 
SubFANtheTroll wrote: I think you make an exception for a 3 star legacy with offers from OSU, UF, South Carolina, and Nebraska who goes to one of the top High Schools in terms of producing football talent in the nation.  Especially when you whiffed on QB recruiting and his teammate is your highest rated target.

Yeah thats illogical.  I'd rather recruit Mike Golic Jr. then Jordan Prestwood.
CaliIrishFan wrote: So you think or believe it is a good idea to offer okay players to "try" and reel in a very good one.

That thinking is illogical. BK and the staff have seen nothing that ever made them want to offer him, As it stands ND has a gluttony of offensive linemen, if they take any more they are going to be studs.
SubFANtheTroll wrote:
narmer71 wrote: He gave a verbal to Nebraska today. He said that ND told him that were filled at his position. OG 6' 5", 275. Well these verbals don't mean much to people like Barnet. Maybe  if there is a place open at the end, they can use Mirko.
dumb move by Kelly and Co....

I was all for passing on Mirko until he moved to IMG.  

Now the best QB you're recruiting Francois is his teammate and you pass on a sure fire ND commit.  Mirko could have assisted in the recruiting effort and you can never have too many Olinemen.
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Posted: 7/27/2014 12:56 AM

Re: Sorry to see that ND had no place for Mirko Jurkavich Jr. 


I just don't think it's a sound tactic to recruit a player that you don't really want in hopes of getting a commitment from a player you want. The reverse is ok.

SubFANtheTroll wrote: I think you make an exception for a 3 star legacy with offers from OSU, UF, South Carolina, and Nebraska who goes to one of the top High Schools in terms of producing football talent in the nation.  Especially when you whiffed on QB recruiting and his teammate is your highest rated target.

Yeah thats illogical.  I'd rather recruit Mike Golic Jr. then Jordan Prestwood.
CaliIrishFan wrote: So you think or believe it is a good idea to offer okay players to "try" and reel in a very good one.

That thinking is illogical. BK and the staff have seen nothing that ever made them want to offer him, As it stands ND has a gluttony of offensive linemen, if they take any more they are going to be studs.
SubFANtheTroll wrote:
narmer71 wrote: He gave a verbal to Nebraska today. He said that ND told him that were filled at his position. OG 6' 5", 275. Well these verbals don't mean much to people like Barnet. Maybe  if there is a place open at the end, they can use Mirko.
dumb move by Kelly and Co....

I was all for passing on Mirko until he moved to IMG.  

Now the best QB you're recruiting Francois is his teammate and you pass on a sure fire ND commit.  Mirko could have assisted in the recruiting effort and you can never have too many Olinemen.
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Posted: 7/27/2014 12:15 PM

Re: Sorry to see that ND had no place for Mirko Jurkavich Jr. 


LOL.... you're not too bright... So you'd rather recruit a player you really want in hopes of landing a player you don't want.    

Basically you wouldn't have recruited Luke Massa or Robbie Toma?   Adding Jurkavich Jr. only adds a recruiter who can talk to Francios everyday and who could assist the staff in landing the prospect.  Plus ND gets its foot in the door with IMG.

Also if ND is supposed to be a family shouldn't the coaches have a little sympathy for a kid whose father an ND alum died in his early 40's????

Too bad Kelly didn't follow Weis lead with recruiting and pluck some of the low hanging fruit.  I'd love to have Kevin Hogan and Morgan Mahalak on the roster.
sgvdomer wrote: I just don't think it's a sound tactic to recruit a player that you don't really want in hopes of getting a commitment from a player you want. The reverse is ok.

SubFANtheTroll wrote: I think you make an exception for a 3 star legacy with offers from OSU, UF, South Carolina, and Nebraska who goes to one of the top High Schools in terms of producing football talent in the nation.  Especially when you whiffed on QB recruiting and his teammate is your highest rated target.

Yeah thats illogical.  I'd rather recruit Mike Golic Jr. then Jordan Prestwood.
CaliIrishFan wrote: So you think or believe it is a good idea to offer okay players to "try" and reel in a very good one.

That thinking is illogical. BK and the staff have seen nothing that ever made them want to offer him, As it stands ND has a gluttony of offensive linemen, if they take any more they are going to be studs.
SubFANtheTroll wrote:
narmer71 wrote: He gave a verbal to Nebraska today. He said that ND told him that were filled at his position. OG 6' 5", 275. Well these verbals don't mean much to people like Barnet. Maybe  if there is a place open at the end, they can use Mirko.
dumb move by Kelly and Co....

I was all for passing on Mirko until he moved to IMG.  

Now the best QB you're recruiting Francois is his teammate and you pass on a sure fire ND commit.  Mirko could have assisted in the recruiting effort and you can never have too many Olinemen.

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Posted: 7/27/2014 10:08 PM

Re: Sorry to see that ND had no place for Mirko Jurkavich Jr. 


Forget Meyer and Saban, I think we found the next great coach for the university.

SubFANtheTroll wrote: LOL.... you're not too bright... So you'd rather recruit a player you really want in hopes of landing a player you don't want.    

Basically you wouldn't have recruited Luke Massa or Robbie Toma?   Adding Jurkavich Jr. only adds a recruiter who can talk to Francios everyday and who could assist the staff in landing the prospect.  Plus ND gets its foot in the door with IMG.

Also if ND is supposed to be a family shouldn't the coaches have a little sympathy for a kid whose father an ND alum died in his early 40's????

Too bad Kelly didn't follow Weis lead with recruiting and pluck some of the low hanging fruit.  I'd love to have Kevin Hogan and Morgan Mahalak on the roster.
sgvdomer wrote: I just don't think it's a sound tactic to recruit a player that you don't really want in hopes of getting a commitment from a player you want. The reverse is ok.

SubFANtheTroll wrote: I think you make an exception for a 3 star legacy with offers from OSU, UF, South Carolina, and Nebraska who goes to one of the top High Schools in terms of producing football talent in the nation.  Especially when you whiffed on QB recruiting and his teammate is your highest rated target.

Yeah thats illogical.  I'd rather recruit Mike Golic Jr. then Jordan Prestwood.
CaliIrishFan wrote: So you think or believe it is a good idea to offer okay players to "try" and reel in a very good one.

That thinking is illogical. BK and the staff have seen nothing that ever made them want to offer him, As it stands ND has a gluttony of offensive linemen, if they take any more they are going to be studs.
SubFANtheTroll wrote:
narmer71 wrote: He gave a verbal to Nebraska today. He said that ND told him that were filled at his position. OG 6' 5", 275. Well these verbals don't mean much to people like Barnet. Maybe  if there is a place open at the end, they can use Mirko.
dumb move by Kelly and Co....

I was all for passing on Mirko until he moved to IMG.  

Now the best QB you're recruiting Francois is his teammate and you pass on a sure fire ND commit.  Mirko could have assisted in the recruiting effort and you can never have too many Olinemen.
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Posted: 7/28/2014 12:19 AM

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Cute response...  Just admit you got owned
sgvdomer wrote: Forget Meyer and Saban, I think we found the next great coach for the university.

SubFANtheTroll wrote: LOL.... you're not too bright... So you'd rather recruit a player you really want in hopes of landing a player you don't want.    

Basically you wouldn't have recruited Luke Massa or Robbie Toma?   Adding Jurkavich Jr. only adds a recruiter who can talk to Francios everyday and who could assist the staff in landing the prospect.  Plus ND gets its foot in the door with IMG.

Also if ND is supposed to be a family shouldn't the coaches have a little sympathy for a kid whose father an ND alum died in his early 40's????

Too bad Kelly didn't follow Weis lead with recruiting and pluck some of the low hanging fruit.  I'd love to have Kevin Hogan and Morgan Mahalak on the roster.
sgvdomer wrote: I just don't think it's a sound tactic to recruit a player that you don't really want in hopes of getting a commitment from a player you want. The reverse is ok.

SubFANtheTroll wrote: I think you make an exception for a 3 star legacy with offers from OSU, UF, South Carolina, and Nebraska who goes to one of the top High Schools in terms of producing football talent in the nation.  Especially when you whiffed on QB recruiting and his teammate is your highest rated target.

Yeah thats illogical.  I'd rather recruit Mike Golic Jr. then Jordan Prestwood.
CaliIrishFan wrote: So you think or believe it is a good idea to offer okay players to "try" and reel in a very good one.

That thinking is illogical. BK and the staff have seen nothing that ever made them want to offer him, As it stands ND has a gluttony of offensive linemen, if they take any more they are going to be studs.
SubFANtheTroll wrote:
narmer71 wrote: He gave a verbal to Nebraska today. He said that ND told him that were filled at his position. OG 6' 5", 275. Well these verbals don't mean much to people like Barnet. Maybe  if there is a place open at the end, they can use Mirko.
dumb move by Kelly and Co....

I was all for passing on Mirko until he moved to IMG.  

Now the best QB you're recruiting Francois is his teammate and you pass on a sure fire ND commit.  Mirko could have assisted in the recruiting effort and you can never have too many Olinemen.
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Posted: 7/28/2014 2:32 AM

Re: Sorry to see that ND had no place for Mirko Jurkavich Jr. 


Wow...you do take this seriously. If it makes you feel better...alright.. I got owned. You are absolutely right. How can Coach Kelly be so stupid to not have offered a legacy? He clearly doesn't know what he is doing and should be terminated immediately. 
SubFANtheTroll wrote: Cute response...  Just admit you got owned
sgvdomer wrote: Forget Meyer and Saban, I think we found the next great coach for the university.

SubFANtheTroll wrote: LOL.... you're not too bright... So you'd rather recruit a player you really want in hopes of landing a player you don't want.    

Basically you wouldn't have recruited Luke Massa or Robbie Toma?   Adding Jurkavich Jr. only adds a recruiter who can talk to Francios everyday and who could assist the staff in landing the prospect.  Plus ND gets its foot in the door with IMG.

Also if ND is supposed to be a family shouldn't the coaches have a little sympathy for a kid whose father an ND alum died in his early 40's????

Too bad Kelly didn't follow Weis lead with recruiting and pluck some of the low hanging fruit.  I'd love to have Kevin Hogan and Morgan Mahalak on the roster.
sgvdomer wrote: I just don't think it's a sound tactic to recruit a player that you don't really want in hopes of getting a commitment from a player you want. The reverse is ok.

SubFANtheTroll wrote: I think you make an exception for a 3 star legacy with offers from OSU, UF, South Carolina, and Nebraska who goes to one of the top High Schools in terms of producing football talent in the nation.  Especially when you whiffed on QB recruiting and his teammate is your highest rated target.

Yeah thats illogical.  I'd rather recruit Mike Golic Jr. then Jordan Prestwood.
CaliIrishFan wrote: So you think or believe it is a good idea to offer okay players to "try" and reel in a very good one.

That thinking is illogical. BK and the staff have seen nothing that ever made them want to offer him, As it stands ND has a gluttony of offensive linemen, if they take any more they are going to be studs.
SubFANtheTroll wrote:
narmer71 wrote: He gave a verbal to Nebraska today. He said that ND told him that were filled at his position. OG 6' 5", 275. Well these verbals don't mean much to people like Barnet. Maybe  if there is a place open at the end, they can use Mirko.
dumb move by Kelly and Co....

I was all for passing on Mirko until he moved to IMG.  

Now the best QB you're recruiting Francois is his teammate and you pass on a sure fire ND commit.  Mirko could have assisted in the recruiting effort and you can never have too many Olinemen.
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Posted: 7/28/2014 9:27 AM

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I wish we knew exactly what they didn't like about him because I'm guessing he would have been a decent use of a scholarship. I'm sure Chuck never planned on Golic playing but things rarely go according to plan and he shouldn't be considered for a scholarshp just because of who his dad is/was.

He'll do well at Nebraska. They do very well with players that fit his profile. Making your own legacy isn't the worst thing anyway.

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Posted: 7/28/2014 9:36 AM

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I doubt its over. If Tillery waivers or a scholarship opens up, I wouldnt be surprised if they came knocking on his door.
 
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Posted: 7/28/2014 9:43 AM

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The difference between Toma/Manti James/Massa and Jurkavich/Francios is that Toma and Massa were best friends with those guys. Do you even know how good of friends Jurkavich/Francios are? Has he established a good enough friendship with him already to persuade him on which school to go to? How many visits has Francios taken to Nebraska?

Also, remember when ND got Deeb and everyone thought that it would give them a legit shot at Sony Michael? OR how about Onwualu's friendship with Cornell?

I understand that Jurk isnt a scrub, but OLine depth is one thing this staff has done well with, especially considering the guys who are high on them in the '16 class. Would rather use the scholarship on another dlineman or LB.
SubFANtheTroll wrote: LOL.... you're not too bright... So you'd rather recruit a player you really want in hopes of landing a player you don't want.    

Basically you wouldn't have recruited Luke Massa or Robbie Toma?   Adding Jurkavich Jr. only adds a recruiter who can talk to Francios everyday and who could assist the staff in landing the prospect.  Plus ND gets its foot in the door with IMG.

Also if ND is supposed to be a family shouldn't the coaches have a little sympathy for a kid whose father an ND alum died in his early 40's????

Too bad Kelly didn't follow Weis lead with recruiting and pluck some of the low hanging fruit.  I'd love to have Kevin Hogan and Morgan Mahalak on the roster.
 
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Posted: 7/28/2014 9:55 AM

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I don't think any of the kids at IMG are good friends. I think they are all there for one reason and it's not to make friends.
IrishfromA2 wrote: The difference between Toma/Manti James/Massa and Jurkavich/Francios is that Toma and Massa were best friends with those guys. Do you even know how good of friends Jurkavich/Francios are? Has he established a good enough friendship with him already to persuade him on which school to go to? How many visits has Francios taken to Nebraska?

Also, remember when ND got Deeb and everyone thought that it would give them a legit shot at Sony Michael? OR how about Onwualu's friendship with Cornell?

I understand that Jurk isnt a scrub, but OLine depth is one thing this staff has done well with, especially considering the guys who are high on them in the '16 class. Would rather use the scholarship on another dlineman or LB.
SubFANtheTroll wrote: LOL.... you're not too bright... So you'd rather recruit a player you really want in hopes of landing a player you don't want.    

Basically you wouldn't have recruited Luke Massa or Robbie Toma?   Adding Jurkavich Jr. only adds a recruiter who can talk to Francios everyday and who could assist the staff in landing the prospect.  Plus ND gets its foot in the door with IMG.

Also if ND is supposed to be a family shouldn't the coaches have a little sympathy for a kid whose father an ND alum died in his early 40's????

Too bad Kelly didn't follow Weis lead with recruiting and pluck some of the low hanging fruit.  I'd love to have Kevin Hogan and Morgan Mahalak on the roster.

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Posted: 7/28/2014 10:02 AM

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I would have loved to have had Luke Kuechly, Bruce Gaston, Ryan Kerrigan or Kawann Short on the roster. But Kelly really should try to follow Weis' lead.
SubFANtheTroll wrote: 
Too bad Kelly didn't follow Weis lead with recruiting and pluck some of the low hanging fruit.  I'd love to have Kevin Hogan and Morgan Mahalak on the roster.
 
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