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Is Jeff Samardzija

Posted: 7/6/2014 10:34 PM

Is Jeff Samardzija 


One of the 10 best dual sports athletes in the last 25 years?

I know bo, Deion, and Charlie ward are names that come to mind but I think he is...

Thoughts???
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Posted: 7/6/2014 10:41 PM

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We don't know because Jeff S has never played in the NFL. Jeff isn't getting any younger so now it is HIS time to prove that he is a major league pitcher who can win games. No excuses. I wish Jeff all the success he deserves. Jeff was an all state CF in HS and I thought that he should have pursued that position in the bigs.
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Posted: 7/6/2014 10:49 PM

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Oh I am not limiting it to dual pro.... No one can garuntee that he would thrive in the NFL but as a 2 time belitnekof finalist he had a good shot.... He would have been a first rd pick but decided to focus on baseball alone...
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Posted: 7/6/2014 10:59 PM

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Maybe.

However, don't forget about guys like Jake Locker, Russell Wilson, Antonio Gates, Jimmy Graham, and that other guy who played MLB and NFL for the Falcons and Braves.

I mean, Jeff was clearly a stud at WR and is now a stud pitcher, but is how does one gauge the successfulness of a two sport athlete? At least two of those I mentioned above are or have been superstars in one of the sports they participated in.
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Posted: 7/6/2014 11:06 PM

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I would say one of the best dual sport college players.  He enjoyed a high level of success at both sports.
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Posted: 7/6/2014 11:18 PM

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Brian Jordan?

Pat Connaughton has the potential to be a better pitcher than Samardzija by the way. If he ever gives into the idea of being a professional baseball player and can get himself to work super hard at it even though he doesn't "love," it, he could be very, very good.

PS -- I don't want to see Jameis Winston's name on here. Tremendously overrated as a baseball player.


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Maybe.

However, don't forget about guys like Jake Locker, Russell Wilson, Antonio Gates, Jimmy Graham, and that other guy who played MLB and NFL for the Falcons and Braves.

I mean, Jeff was clearly a stud at WR and is now a stud pitcher, but is how does one gauge the successfulness of a two sport athlete? At least two of those I mentioned above are or have been superstars in one of the sports they participated in.

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Posted: 7/6/2014 11:19 PM

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What about the QB at FSU? Is it still too early to tell about his major league potential?
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Posted: 7/6/2014 11:29 PM

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He is one of a very few to be an AA college football player and an MLB allstar.

Jimmy Graham wasn't nearly the dual sport athlete that Samarzdija was. Graham was a marginal basketball player for Miami.

Connaughton is a very solid college basketball player, but I think it's safe to say Samarzdija was a better college football player.
 
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Posted: 7/6/2014 11:50 PM

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Danny Hodge - hell of a wrestler and boxer
Tom Glavine
Tony Gonzales
Dave WInfield
JIm Thorpe
Bob Hayes
Danny Ainge
Brian Jordan
Darin Erstad



Maybe Todd Helton
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Posted: 7/6/2014 11:57 PM

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There's Dave Winfield than there's everybody else.

I did just see a stat something like only the Shark and Bo Jackson were all American football players and all star baseball players.

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Posted: 7/7/2014 12:01 AM

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don't forget Julius Peppers

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Danny Hodge - hell of a wrestler and boxer
Tom Glavine
Tony Gonzales
Dave WInfield
JIm Thorpe
Bob Hayes
Danny Ainge
Brian Jordan
Darin Erstad



Maybe Todd Helton

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Posted: 7/7/2014 12:06 AM

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GaviND wrote: Brian Jordan?

Pat Connaughton has the potential to be a better pitcher than Samardzija by the way. If he ever gives into the idea of being a professional baseball player and can get himself to work super hard at it even though he doesn't "love," it, he could be very, very good.

PS -- I don't want to see Jameis Winston's name on here. Tremendously overrated as a baseball player.


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Maybe.

However, don't forget about guys like Jake Locker, Russell Wilson, Antonio Gates, Jimmy Graham, and that other guy who played MLB and NFL for the Falcons and Braves.

I mean, Jeff was clearly a stud at WR and is now a stud pitcher, but is how does one gauge the successfulness of a two sport athlete? At least two of those I mentioned above are or have been superstars in one of the sports they participated in.

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Yeah, Brian Jordan. I had Brian Hunter in my mind for some reason.

I think a guy hits the multi-sport echelon if he does it at the pro level in at least one sport after being a scholarship athlete in another. Perhaps Jimmy Graham was a marginal college hoops guy, but he's a bona fide NFL superstar. Same with Gates and Gonzalez. If they were capable of playing D1 hoops and being a professional superstar, then they are in the top tier of two sport stars.

Samardzija is certainly in that realm, but baseball is a more forgiving sport than football or basketball. Peter King has a great story about Deion Sanders wherein he visited Sanders in his hotel room after a baseball game and Sanders was standing in front of a mirror taking cut after cut and sweating his balls off and Sanders essentially told King, I know I'm not good at baseball and so do the Braves, but they keep me around because I'm Deion Sanders.

Contrary to Dosch, Bo Jackson is always at the top of the list (because he was capable of actually being a multi-sport, professional all-star), Winfield is next, then Sanders, Brian Jordan, and then everyone else.

Subfan's list is pretty good.

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Posted: 7/7/2014 2:38 AM

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I'd also add Brock Lesnar to the list.... NCAA Champ, NFL tryout, and UFC Champ

and Stephen Neal NCAA Heavyweight Champion and OL with the Pats

and James Jett - NFL WR and Olympic Sprinter

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Posted: 7/7/2014 6:56 AM

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No mention of Jim Brown?

13 letters across 5 sports in college coupled with being arguably the most dominant profession RB in NFL history.

Edit: oops, 25 years.

Last edited 7/7/2014 8:21 AM by TruIrishFan

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Posted: 7/7/2014 8:21 AM

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This. Winfield could have played professionally in three different sports, people use to say that is he had decided to play other sports like Hockey he probably would have been great at  that as well.

dosch44 wrote: There's Dave Winfield than there's everybody else.

I did just see a stat something like only the Shark and Bo Jackson were all American football players and all star baseball players.
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Posted: 7/7/2014 8:30 AM

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lol, but honestly, if you went back all the way to the late 40's early 50's you could find tons of guys,

Chuck Conners who most only remember as a Actor (The Rifleman) also played in the NBA and MLB, was also drafted by the Chicago Bears.

First person to ever break a backboard in the NBA. (Backboard was not installed correctly, his shot hit the front of the rim and shattered the backboard.)
TruIrishFan wrote: No mention of Jim Brown?

13 letters across 5 sports in college coupled with being arguably the most dominant profession RB in NFL history.

Edit: oops, 25 years.
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Posted: 7/7/2014 8:54 AM

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The Shark is certainly notable over the recent years for this honor, but I agree you probably have to dabble in two pro leagues to qualify

He certainly made the right career choice -- even if he weren't quite this good he'd be a 15-year major leaguer vs. probably a 4-6 year NFL'er (nature of the game)

I really wanted to see him go to the NFL, but that's purely selfish on my part -- ND needed some NFL juice at the time

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Posted: 7/7/2014 9:33 AM

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I am going to say yes. 

He has the size and awards to prove this as well.  MLB All-Star, Top WR in NCAAF awards and would have been a top WR pick in the NFL draft. 

Samardzija would be 12-1 (or so) this year if he was on Oakland's roster from Day one. His agent deserves the Agent of the Year award.

Jake Locker and Russell Wilson actually sucked at baseball.

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Posted: 7/7/2014 9:51 AM

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I am not totally aware of his first 2 years at ND..... He seemed to take off his junior year...., I would be interested to see how perception improves if he can have a top 2nd half of the year and be mentioned in the cy young race even though he switched leagues.
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Posted: 7/7/2014 10:43 AM

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herschel walker was a 3 time all american in football and also an aa in track.

he played a long time in the nfl.

he was an olympic bob sledder.

was a one time world record holder in the 60 meter dash.

was 2-0 in professional mma even though he didnt fight elite fighters.

in hs he was all state in football, basketball and won several state titles in track and field including the 100 YARD dash--we grew up before meters in american track--and the shot put---a pretty rare combo.
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