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Posted: 6/20/2014 7:10 PM

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With the repeal of the Redskins trademark by US Patent and Trademarks Office.  What do you think the Redskins will change their mascot / name to?

Personally I'd go with the 

Americans or Generals or Warriors

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Posted: 6/20/2014 7:26 PM

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Savages?

Scalpers?

Injuns?

Native Americans?
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Posted: 6/20/2014 7:34 PM

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I'd go with the "TheUSPTOcango****themselveses."

Or maybe the Chief Wahoos, since that's so much more dignified.


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Posted: 6/20/2014 7:41 PM

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This could and probably take years to play out in the courts.

I honestly believe the true pressure will come from advertisers, once groups start boycotting the money things start to change.

In the grand scheme of things the name is offensive to me, I am part Native American.

As a matter of fact, I have never understood the use of nation or region before American.  People talk about unity and we are all the same yet a term like _____ American (Insert Country in blank) divides people into groups based on ethnicity.

I cannot stand when you fill out a application and it wants you to select your ethnicity. I write in American.
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Posted: 6/20/2014 7:45 PM

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Posted: 6/20/2014 8:00 PM

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This whole situation is PC nonsense. Now my dog wants to no longer be called a dog. She wants to be known as a Canine-American. I love the Redskins. I love the Blackhawks. I love the Irish. Indians, Chiefs, Braves, and Seminoles. Isn't is interesting that the Seminole Nation do not have a problem with FSU?  Money changes everything. Why don't we just be robots, disengage from each other thus guaranteeing that no feelings get hurt.  Redskins Redskins Redskins. I will buy a Redskins shirt and I'm a Colts / Bears fan. I promise you that if the Redskins are forced to change thru bully lefty tactics, the Fighting Irish will be next. Does anyone in power have the guts to stop this idiotic madness?
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Posted: 6/20/2014 8:46 PM

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The Washington Redskins should be forced to drop that part of their name considered vulgar, insulting and corrupt. They need to drop Washington, and just call themselves the Redskins.



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Posted: 6/20/2014 11:26 PM

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It'll be appealed all the way to the highest court.  This could take years as it just isn't that important of an issue in the grand scheme of things.
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Posted: 6/21/2014 1:05 AM

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69 and I don't agree on much, but I did find this amusing.

NDIRISH1969 wrote: The Washington Redskins should be forced to drop that part of their name considered vulgar, insulting and corrupt. They need to drop Washington, and just call themselves the Redskins.

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Posted: 6/21/2014 1:19 AM

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I am part "Native" as well, though I take the term/use of "Redskins" as an honor.

To me, it boils down to two things:

1) How Native Americans view the term/use.  (This counts for about 90% of the issue.)

2) How Snyder et al intended for the term to be taken. (This counts for the other 10%.)

There is no third thing.  I don't give a flying ****  what non-Native races think about the issue.  And, IMO, my own opinion only counts 1/16th as much as a pure-blood.

Since #1 is what's most important, I'll just say more wholly or partly native peoples tend to agree with me than with rbiddie.  This has been proven through polls.

Case closed, IMO.  For now.

If some day the majority of Native Americans find the term offensive, get rid of it.  Till then, feel free.  In fact, thanks to Snyder and friends for honoring my great great grandmother and those like her who endured more than their share of hardship.

Let's just remember this latest round of bull**** was brought to you by five Native Americans.  Five.

If you'd like to have a better idea of how most Native American's view the term, here is a high school which uses that nickname.  They're nearly 100% oppressed, low-income Navajos.

http://rmusdhs.ss4.sharpschool.com/

rbiddie wrote: 
In the grand scheme of things the name is offensive to me, I am part Native American.

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Posted: 6/21/2014 1:56 AM

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If you want a good laugh look at the high school name for one of the Navajo school district high schools that brought the suit against the Washinton Redskins name and logo being offensive. Take a wild guess what their mascot and name are before you look at the link below.




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Posted: 6/21/2014 2:16 AM

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Kriz, I won't bother pointing out I shared this link in the post immediately preceding yours wink, but where did you get the idea this high school brought the suit we're talking about?


krizmanik wrote:

If you want a good laugh look at the high school name for one of the Navajo school district high schools that brought the suit against the Washinton Redskins name and logo being offensive. Take a wild guess what their mascot and name are before you look at the link below.




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Posted: 6/21/2014 3:31 AM

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I knew a girl in college who was 1/16th American Indian (Lakota Sioux) and she spoke often about the problems afflicting her people. If she had made a list of things she worried about regarding this, the use of the term Redskin wouldn't rank in the top 50. BTW, this issue never came up. It never occurred to her once to care, even after I told her I was a Washington Redskins fan casually. This is my point. At the time it never occurred to me that it could be an offensive word and she didn't say that it was when I said it. So where is this BS coming from?

Most of what she spoke of was about the extinction of her people and preserving their heritage. A name change won't do squat. I realize this is just one person I am using as a sample size but I felt that most (Native Americans) probably are more in line with her way of thinking.

However, she told me that she found the Atlanta's Braves tomahawk chop really annoying and borderline degrading.

Where's the movement to ban that? As a liberal, this is getting really silly and follows a troubling trend.

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Posted: 6/21/2014 10:20 AM

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Nothing new about this....

I could care less and I take it to some degree Redskin is like the word ****** or Nigga.  It's okay for the blackman to use the term but not anyone else.  

If I'm Dan Snyder... First thing I'd do is totally skip the whole issue and announce that the Redskins will update their mascot and logo.... Then I'd change the name a year or two later.
krizmanik wrote:

If you want a good laugh look at the high school name for one of the Navajo school district high schools that brought the suit against the Washinton Redskins name and logo being offensive. Take a wild guess what their mascot and name are before you look at the link below.




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Posted: 6/21/2014 1:16 PM

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Legally they don't have to change their name. Common law protects them while using the name and no body can force them to change their name. Nor can any one else use it without their permission.(according to one very experienced lawyer who has vast knowledge) {Mark Levin}, his experience makes Obama seem like he is in elementary school.
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With the repeal of the Redskins trademark by US Patent and Trademarks Office.  What do you think the Redskins will change their mascot / name to?

Personally I'd go with the 

Americans or Generals or Warriors

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Posted: 6/21/2014 1:29 PM

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I agree with you up to the point that you say that Native Americans don't find it offensive because I don't think it's so cut and dry.

The biggest issue is that they can't even get organized to come up with a consensus on what the majority thinks about the University of North Dakota Fighting Sioux nickname let alone a name that is used nation wide.

Look at it this way, if an expansion team were to start up today, would anybody think that the term Redskins be ok? I don't think so. It's just not necessary. After all, the term Redskin was a racial slur. I don't think anybody really uses it anymore but why push the issue?

The bottom line is Daniel Snyder doesn't give two shits what anybody thinks. The only way this will get changed is if they literally pry it from his cold dead hands in the court of law.

I wouldn't get too worked up over the trademark decision just yet. The Redskins already won their appeal once.


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I am part "Native" as well, though I take the term/use of "Redskins" as an honor.

To me, it boils down to two things:

1) How Native Americans view the term/use.  (This counts for about 90% of the issue.)

2) How Snyder et al intended for the term to be taken. (This counts for the other 10%.)

There is no third thing.  I don't give a flying ****  what non-Native races think about the issue.  And, IMO, my own opinion only counts 1/16th as much as a pure-blood.

Since #1 is what's most important, I'll just say more wholly or partly native peoples tend to agree with me than with rbiddie.  This has been proven through polls.

Case closed, IMO.  For now.

If some day the majority of Native Americans find the term offensive, get rid of it.  Till then, feel free.  In fact, thanks to Snyder and friends for honoring my great great grandmother and those like her who endured more than their share of hardship.

Let's just remember this latest round of bull**** was brought to you by five Native Americans.  Five.

If you'd like to have a better idea of how most Native American's view the term, here is a high school which uses that nickname.  They're nearly 100% oppressed, low-income Navajos.

rmusdhs.ss4.sharpschool.com/

rbiddie wrote: 
In the grand scheme of things the name is offensive to me, I am part Native American.


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Posted: 6/21/2014 1:33 PM

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ide keep it Redskins for as long as possible if I was them. The whole thing is media driven which is a shame there are much bigger problems for Natives (rampant alcoholism, crime, ect on their reservations) and then you have other issues like recognition. Where I live in NC we have alot of Lumbee Indians. They can't even get recognition from the government as a tribe. Too bad the govt is more worried about a sports team name that doesn't affect anyone. Of the 10 or so Lumbees I have known in my life none have ever told me they didn't like the Redskins name (one played Poker with me 2 or 3 times a week with a big time "skins" fan, never took offense too it). In fact a few of the Lumbees I know actively root for the Cleveland "Indians" and take pride about talking about "The Tribe".
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Posted: 6/21/2014 1:54 PM

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I didn't say that.

dosch44 wrote: I agree with you up to the point that you say that Native Americans don't find it offensive because I don't think it's so cut and dry.

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 I'll just say more wholly or partly native peoples tend to agree with me than with rbiddie.

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Posted: 6/21/2014 2:54 PM

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It's the same exact media pushing this that also couldn't get enough of two dudes smooching on NFL draft day.Yet, it's the same exact media who went 24/7 on Manti and did everything they could to make him look like a fool and yes, it's the same exact media who went postal on the Clippers owner and treated Jason Collins as a national treasure. The sports media have little to zero credibility with each passing day. They and the news media are so busy holding hands that any intelligent opposing opinions would never be tolerated. Has anyone heard one pro Redskins opinion from any media outlet? Has anyone heard one opposing opinion in regards to the Jason Collins and Michael Sam nonsense? There is no way every sports and news media guy or gal in the nation are all in total agreement about Sams, Collins, Clippers, and Redskins.
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Posted: 6/21/2014 3:36 PM

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No.  It's not.  And these subjects, for the most part, have nothing to do with one another.

MightyIgor wrote: It's the same exact media pushing this that also couldn't get enough of two dudes smooching on NFL draft day.Yet, it's the same exact media who went 24/7 on Manti and did everything they could to make him look like a fool and yes, it's the same exact media who went postal on the Clippers owner and treated Jason Collins as a national treasure. 

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